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#### shaldoryn

##### Re: bet after 4 ec's
« Reply #75 on: May 14, 2019, 08:06:45 AM »
It's just like long time ago, that old man going to casino every day playing for 10 wins. 1 2 4 8 on ECs than labby as recover method. He never lost (it is said). Clearly, this method is based on that, if you doubt of it, the 10 games per day can confirm.
As for any other system, the only important part is the recovery method anyway, besides luck.
It's just funny to see once again an old method on the table again I should maybe give it a try.

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#### Third

##### Re: bet after 4 ec's
« Reply #76 on: May 14, 2019, 09:11:56 AM »
Aha, so we are discussing recovering with the labby.  That begs the question if it can be used on the inside because I certainly wouldn't recommend using it on the EC's unless it was Week 1 or late in Week 2 and even then it requires strict loss controls because it will climb beyond the point where one would lose, say, 1 of 3 bets at a raised unit amount.

So first let's compare two scenarios, one with the 3 EC bets and the other with the labby:

-15 @ 1 unit, raise to 6 units
LLLW
-9 @ 6 units, lower to 5 units
LLLW
-4 @ 5 units, lower to 4 units
LLLW
Debt fully recovered.

You see the point, I don't need to do the labby.  Our method can withstand 3 losses for every win, where the labby can only withstand 2, right?

I completely agree that recovery is THE key to success here and I wouldn't dare trying to use EC's the whole way because the debt amounts at 12 units after a loss (180 units) and one needs to now bet 72 units(!!!) and what if that loses??

The reason I recommend going on the inside (baccarat players do not have this luxury) is because we can drastically reduce our bet amounts and dramatically increase our win amounts.

Absolutely nothing beats the thrill of 5 wins in a row at 12 units each but when we go down 180 units, we need something safer and more powerful than an EC, to recover with.
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#### shaldoryn

##### Re: bet after 4 ec's
« Reply #77 on: May 14, 2019, 09:34:11 AM »
I was just saying the old man was using labby, and could manage having luck enough
But I see your point with the labby, thx for sharing

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#### Third

##### Re: bet after 4 ec's
« Reply #78 on: May 14, 2019, 09:39:43 AM »
I am open to new ideas because I understand first hand how difficult this is.

#### Third

##### Re: bet after 4 ec's
« Reply #79 on: May 14, 2019, 01:35:16 PM »
For instance, what about betting the Labby on the inside using binomial distribution.  For example, if we bet a DS for 4 spins, we could classify the notation based on when we get a hit:

1st spin: +5 (or 0 if at profit)
2nd spin: +4 (or 0 if at profit)
3rd spin: +3 (or 0 if at profit)
4th spin: +2 (or 0 if at profit)
No hit: -5

For every block of 5, we bet 1 unit.  So after one cycle miss, we write 5.  Second cycle miss, we write 5.  Now we bet 2 units and get a hit on the 3rd spin of the cycle, so we must subtract 6 (3x2) and we cross off both 5's and write a 4, so we bet 1 unit.

I just totally made this up because you mentioned the Labby.  What do you think?

#### Third

##### Re: bet after 4 ec's
« Reply #80 on: May 15, 2019, 08:45:36 PM »
an overactive zero is of no consequence.

Even though I posted this, I have since left two sessions where it was known that the zero was overperforming expectation.  I am choosing to this, while ignoring the zero otherwise.  I am basically fishing for a session where the zero is a sleeper and wanting to stay with it long term.