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#### Astutillo

##### Re: Talos BOOM!!!
« Reply #15 on: August 12, 2019, 09:23:50 AM »
Ok that's clear now thank you.

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#### Third

##### Re: Talos BOOM!!!
« Reply #16 on: August 12, 2019, 10:18:11 AM »
There IS an error, the debt should read 7 instead of 5 but don't let that worry you.  Just pretend its correct; it doesn't change anything.

Everything else looks OK.

I am laughably bad at Excel programming but here is how simple it is to make a calculator.  Always round up with the bet amount if there is a fraction.
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#### leowls

##### Re: Talos BOOM!!!
« Reply #17 on: August 12, 2019, 10:49:01 AM »
Hi Third, have something I don't quite understand.

The bold part states the divisor is back to 1 but why are we still betting with \$2?

Bet.....Debt.....#'s Bet.....Divisor.....Result
1............0............0.............1.............MISS
1............1............6.............1.............MISS <=== this is the base progression, fast forward a bit
...
3............11..........47............1.............MISS
3............14...........54............1.............HIT   <=== re-start progression, let's say we missed = DEBT RECOVERY
2.............17..........60............2.............HIT   <=== lower the divisor to 1
2..............5...........66............1.............MISS
2..............7...........72............1.............MISS
2..............9...........78............1.............MISS
3..............11..........84...........1.............MISS   <=== our debt is now too high for a bet of 2
3..............14..........90...........1.............MISS
4..............17..........96...........1.............HIT   <=== we gain 7 units and win, start the base progression

#### leowls

##### Re: Talos BOOM!!!
« Reply #18 on: August 12, 2019, 11:40:44 AM »
I got it now after seeing the formula in your excel.

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#### Astutillo

##### Re: Talos BOOM!!!
« Reply #19 on: August 12, 2019, 02:10:00 PM »
Lets talk about the BOOM.

Lets say I bet on a Street
Base Progression should be:

1111111111
222222
3333

20 bets = 60 numbers

Total cost is 34 units to complete the progression.

If I understood correctly now I must build up a 68 (34×2) units profit in order to start a BOOM Parlay.

Am I right?
If I'm right it would take ages to build up such a profits at a live roulette table or BM casino just to start betting the BOOM.
« Last Edit: August 12, 2019, 02:39:31 PM by Astutillo »

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#### Third

##### Re: Talos BOOM!!!
« Reply #20 on: August 12, 2019, 03:27:22 PM »
Yes that would be the minimum amount you would need, if you always want to have profit available at all stages of play.  I like having profit at all times.  I just did a BOOM in real money play and got to the last stage before doubling the Profit Divisor, when I experienced one of the worst counter trends I have ever seen.  I still had profits on the books when it ended and was able to quit the session without loss.

I don't play live B & M so that isn't a concern of mine BUT this strategy can be altered to use one's bankroll to start BOOM-ing immediately.  This is not how I approach it so, all of the relevant details would have to be sorted for this kind of approach.

I might end up moving to a street at some point.  For now I am on Quads.
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#### Third

##### Re: Talos BOOM!!!
« Reply #21 on: August 13, 2019, 02:50:52 AM »

BOOM SNIPER!

So, we don't always have to expose half of our profits.  We can observe the flow and bet the minimum unit size until we see a shot we like and take it!

It may actually be more profitable to BOOM! whenever possible and I am still trying to figure out which is actually best.

I used the sniper method in real money today and got nailed a couple of times but also had some great shots and came out +400 units at lunch time.

Ya, I was down 160 units from the all time high, but I guess that's normal?
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#### boyd30

##### Re: Talos BOOM!!!
« Reply #22 on: August 14, 2019, 04:21:57 AM »
So if I start to bet on a quad (or corner) it would look like this: 1111111222233, 21 units. Is the progression correct? If I win I  start over, but if I lose? Just keep playing till I win (a certain amount, but still down)? How much bankroll you need?

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#### Third

##### Re: Talos BOOM!!!
« Reply #23 on: August 14, 2019, 07:53:33 AM »
The progression for a Quad is:

1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
2 2 2 2
3 3 3

which totals 25 units.

Once we lose this above base progression, we begin the Talos ratio-divisor progression which changes based on variance & debt.  The above base progression is actually the Talos ratio-divisor progression when the divisor is 1 and there is no debt (a fresh start) because it bets based on cycles of 60 numbers bet before the divisor increases.

You should study the posts above where I explain how the Debt Recovery phase works.  When we are betting the above base progression, we are in the Profit Accumulation phase.

In free money testing I have started with 1000 units and have been quite fine but when I play for real money, I want the largest bankroll I can handle and still make decent money on a daily basis.  I am paranoid when it comes to bankroll and I am currently using 9852 units.  I just had a session with a 1083 unit drawdown, so I plan to stay at my current unit size as long as I can and just keep building up my balance.

I am currently using .25 units and have made over \$750 in the last 4 days of play, thank God.

I am more accustomed to making about \$1500 a week but at this point, I am willing to be patient before I increase my unit size.

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#### Astutillo

##### Re: Talos BOOM!!!
« Reply #24 on: August 14, 2019, 09:26:24 AM »

Do you keep the same bet selection (same quad) or switch to another and hotter after each phase?

Betting on a street I wait for all 3 numbers been spun in lets say 20 spins.
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#### Third

##### Re: Talos BOOM!!!
« Reply #25 on: August 14, 2019, 10:29:45 AM »
The only time in my life I have ever entered a casino was as a child on a family vacation and I was restricted to the "arcade section" because I was a minor, while my parents apparently went to gamble.  I remember my mother liked the low value slots and I think my father played poker.

I have also never played live wheel roulette for money.  I have played everything RNG.

At this point, I will always choose the same Quad (Q17) to start the game and I will watch the performance of all 4 numbers.  I am looking for which numbers are hot and which are cold.  As long as I am hitting within the base progression, I don't even think about switching.  As long as I have at least one number within the top 6 of all numbers for the session, I will stay with the same Quad as well.

The ideal situation is to find a Quad that has 2 (or more) numbers in the top 12 of all performers, preferably in the top 6.

If my strongest number is below the top 6, I will look at all the number performance and choose a more powerful Quad.  I wait until I get a hit before I switch unless the performance is so bad that I will curse myself by staying.  I try to switch selections as infrequently (hopefully never) as possible.

I play SU for real money.  I haven't played a Quad for real money yet but it might actually be better; I haven't done enough testing.  My concern would be the impact upon the bankroll during a prolonged correction swing, where the bets would rise higher  because the payout is smaller; this is mitigated by the higher chance of achieving a hit.
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#### Astutillo

##### Re: Talos BOOM!!!
« Reply #26 on: August 14, 2019, 11:07:50 AM »
Me too Im going to bet SU on RNG.
The fast pace of the game allows it.
One single number or maybe two, adjusting the progression.

So far betting a street on live wheel online the system works fine but profits add up very slowly.
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#### Third

##### Re: Talos BOOM!!!
« Reply #27 on: August 14, 2019, 12:16:36 PM »
That's very true about RNG allowing us to play what we normally would not be able to with live wheel or B & M.  Be sure you are using a trusted casino.

The casino I play at, I trust.  I just had a drawdown with a Quad for 1061 units and I recovered just fine, where my final two hits were the same number back to back.

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#### valvo

##### Re: Talos BOOM!!!
« Reply #28 on: August 14, 2019, 12:27:00 PM »
Thanks, Third for this method of play

What do you mean by you bet SU?
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#### boyd30

##### Re: Talos BOOM!!!
« Reply #29 on: August 14, 2019, 01:23:07 PM »
I also wonder, what means SU?
From my experience I don't trust online casino. They cheat so I haven't played that for a long time. But I can't say everyone cheat. What casino do you play Third?

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