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Sputnik

Have you read or hear the word Dutching in gambling terms?
« on: July 30, 2019, 04:46:24 PM »


Have you read or hear the word "Dutching" in gambling terms?

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scepticus

Re: Have you read or hear the word Dutching in gambling terms?
« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2019, 05:21:35 PM »
" Dutching" is when you bet 2 or more choices to receive the  same return whatever  the result .
 

Sputnik

Re: Have you read or hear the word Dutching in gambling terms?
« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2019, 07:18:35 PM »


Yes i know and it works on the football score market and the horses.
I like the methodology of Dutching.

What i need to learn about horses is to value the current shape and conditions of each horse and not just look at the odds market, because there is no value in odds, just a hint.

Let me explain, assume i would play football a saturday and i want to find a game with value.
Not just guess work that one particular team will win a match.

For example, assume i look at the form for the past five games with all home favorites with the odds range 1.75 to 1.45 and find two games where the home team have multiplie scores and winnings for the past five games or maybe one 1-1 among the five past winning games and the underdog has not won any games for the past five.

Then the expectation and value would be within the results 0-1 to the underdog not to happen.
It would go against the mental state, and the shape and conditions of the home favorite and same for the underdogs condtions to sudden change to a winning team against such a strong home favorite.

Here is the value and the fondation of the long term edge in selection.
And same has to be done with horses.

I should based on odds range, shape, form, conditions among other things find a value with at least one horse not winning the race and then i can dutching or place several other selections and win the race.

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Sputnik

Re: Have you read or hear the word Dutching in gambling terms?
« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2019, 01:20:55 PM »


This is the solution - you buy a service that provide you with statisitcs and horse software.
You might pay 5 Euro monthly.

Then you will get the horses by rank and points that can indicate wish horse will win and not win.
Then you will get statisitcs and information about the person riding the horse and information about the coach and information about the horse.

All the paramters will add up.
This is great tool to use when Dutching.

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Jesper

Re: Have you read or hear the word Dutching in gambling terms?
« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2019, 01:59:39 PM »
RIDING a horse as in Grand national is very equal to random. Other race may be as you find a good deal, but my opinion is it is down to luck, the odds can be as you get advantage, because some "love" the team or even the horse. A star lose the higher odds, I back the second, which in the "long run" is better. I¨the real the odds are set by the public. The book of the bookies use the public opinions, and advice can be for the better or to fool.
 

Sputnik

Re: Have you read or hear the word Dutching in gambling terms?
« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2019, 02:33:43 PM »


Is a type error as there is no good spell checker on this forum board, they should allow grammely.

I don't know the English word for it - Kusken sitter back i vagnen och styr hästen - Swedish.

So trying to translate that - the person who sitt on the vaggon behind the horse ...
Not riding the horse, is was wrong expression.

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Jesper

Re: Have you read or hear the word Dutching in gambling terms?
« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2019, 03:13:45 PM »
The human part is sitting behind  in the MOROT carrot  or something like that or over the horse in inch or meters, that's two different race, do not mix it up. I am native Swedish and have English as my third language. Compare to other here do not speak Swedish rather swenglich.  The horse get less credit but are the star, bet on horses not the extra trunk.
 

MickyP

Re: Have you read or hear the word Dutching in gambling terms?
« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2019, 04:08:32 PM »
The jockey controls the horse and the jockey takes instruction from the trainer and the owner. Everything must be considered including race grooming of horses for future events. At times a horse will be held back just enough to qualify for top events and then pushed to secure whatever position is required in major events. A race horse has a career plan that only runs for a few years before being retired to a breeding stable where his genes fetch top dollar (based on his temperament and running career). Inside info in horse racing is where the big wins happen. Personally, I think its a big sham just like cricket, its all rigged. People have to understand that the poor punters who place bets finance the industry, same as roulette and casinos. Where there is big money involved, there is bound to be corruption.
 

scepticus

Re: Have you read or hear the word Dutching in gambling terms?
« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2019, 07:01:44 PM »
betting on horse racing is a form of gambling. All gambling is based on an event the result of which  is uncetain. All the bettor can do is make an educated guess.
Jesper is quite wrong in claiming that races like the Grand National  is akin to Random. The Bookies certainly don't think so .  Uncertainty of outcome is there but  the Stats clearly show that the better horses have won the race much more than lesser able horses. I agree with Sputnik . The more informatin you have the more likely your  guess will be the right one . And  there are quite s few Betting  Professionals in horse racing !
 

MickyP

Re: Have you read or hear the word Dutching in gambling terms?
« Reply #9 on: August 01, 2019, 03:18:16 AM »
I know there are people who make good money from horse racing. I simply stated a few facts mixed in with my opinion. Don;t get your panties in a knot now!