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thomasleor

The Crystal Roulette
« on: July 18, 2019, 08:06:01 AM »

In 2015 a small group of Hardware and Software engineers from the Technological University Chalmers in Gothenburg  developed and successfully introduced a 21century roulette technology called Tangiamo Touch Technology

The company is registered (since 2017) on Nasdaq, and I have the good fortune to own a small number of shares in it (share name TANGI).

On their homepage, most in Swedish (use google translate), they have now introduced their latest tech, The Crystal Roulette.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=8&v=xBvsGAIiaoM

This technology may soon (next decade) replace the old ones in smaller European B&M Casinos all over Europe, as it offers Casinos a far better ability to control the environment around a table. Suffice to say the potential market is immense.

 The company also offers a social interaction function, fully displayable on large screens for "international" roulette competitions and other forms of games, all enhancing the gambling experience.

A first client, Casino Magic Bet,  have decided to replace all their roulette tables in all their 40 gaming halls with Crystal Roulette.

 It is a very bold, innovative and exciting way for most gamblers today interested in this game. Professional gamblers will, of course, prefer the old ways but are in this equation a negligible factor until the Casinos have fully phased out the old cumbersome tables demanding pit bosses and other old fashioned services that in the future will be superfluous.

Tangiamo implements REVENUE sharing as part of the net profit from the tables used by its Casino clients.

The rest of Tangiamo products here (the people of the video are the engineers that developed the tech):

https://www.tangiamo.com/sv/section/about-the-products/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=gNRyrNBNiB8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=20&v=pC4JZURr_6I
 
« Last Edit: July 18, 2019, 08:27:14 AM by thomasleor »
 
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Third

Re: The Crystal Roulette
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2019, 08:29:35 AM »
Amazing.  Just physical wheels have enough of a shroud of potential cheating surrounding them.  Crystal roulette just poured gasoline on that shroud and lit it on fire!

Obviously you wouldn't play there professionally and even I have significant concerns before I would even begin to feel any level of comfort doing so.

Very beautiful and awesome technology though, to be sure! :D
 

scepticus

Re: The Crystal Roulette
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2019, 09:34:23 AM »
ThomasHow does the software know which players have tapped the winning number ?

Thanks
 
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thomasleor

Re: The Crystal Roulette
« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2019, 10:16:27 AM »
ThomasHow does the software know which players have tapped the winning number ?

Thanks

Please read, the homepage describing the unique fingerprint tech.

But suffice to say, the unique Tangiamo Technique uses a combination of Hardware area and swipe tech guided by advanced Biomatch algorithms that can distinguish every particpating player once the player has "announced" his particpation into the game by clicking on the table with all ten fingers (in the beginning), thus allowing the system to hastag him/her as another unique player, assigning him/her with his /hers colored digital chips with specific assigned data available world wide within the Casinos using the technique. As you see on the large display in the demo video each player winning a large sum is displayed on the board with size of win plus photo and name.

A technique scanning the palm and all fingers (without needed touch)  is currently under development.

Much of this fingerprint tech has originally evolved and been refined through analysis of older techniques offered by among some the huge Swedish Biometric company (Gothenburg based) called Finger Print Cards AB (turnover in the billions and share value increased with over 1,000% this year).

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=sv&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Ffeber.se%2Fmobil%2Fdet-gar-bra-for-svenskt-biometriforetag%2F337304%2F
« Last Edit: July 18, 2019, 11:15:57 AM by thomasleor »
 

thomasleor

Re: The Crystal Roulette
« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2019, 11:19:56 AM »
bump

Really dislike these timouts that inhibits editing of good info.
« Last Edit: July 18, 2019, 11:21:54 AM by thomasleor »
 

dobbelsteen

Re: The Crystal Roulette
« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2019, 12:33:25 PM »

holland Casino has introduced the Tangiamo roulette table about one year ago. My first contact with these table was very positive.The table has place for 7 players. The roulette has a European wheel and is air driven. To place your bets , you have to push a button. Ergonometric is bad. The player at the head of the table need a applied tool
The player on the middle side seat can handle the whole table. Very inconvenient are the arms from left and right from the players on the corners.
In a very short time I have learned  how to beat this table and  why  others loss.

I have contacted the provider by email but the do not respons. The Website is  written in Swedish. The video with a couple of players is a very bad promotion.

In spite of my negative review, I think  this concept has a future for.B&M casinos.

Particular for this roulette table I have designed a game for 7 players. The players play to eachother and there is always a winner. I  had this game organized for members of the Dutch webside in my home casino.
 
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thomasleor

Re: The Crystal Roulette
« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2019, 12:45:44 PM »
It is still a young company in its development stages, despite Nasdag registration & Trade. They need better sales force and promotion.

Hopefully the new Crystal Roulette user configuration will gain popularity among Casinos. They need a few more years of Development and Feedback before perfecting the technique and gaining sufficient marketing traction.

The latest generations of young gamers and smartphone dependant youth will certainly hook up on this as a way to access the world of roulette in both a physical yet screenbased reality.
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Jesper

Re: The Crystal Roulette
« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2019, 01:44:42 PM »
The pricipe was invented long time ago  Orwell 1984.
 
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thomasleor

Re: The Crystal Roulette
« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2019, 02:14:49 PM »


I assume you refer to the Biometric registration of the gamblers.

Well, when you visit a B&M Casino these days, dont you have to show ID or even register your personal data at the counter (if you are a new customer)? Some Casinos then give you a member card. I take it you have seen such a thing?  ;D

 When you open a new account at a Casino online, dont you have to show proof of identity and so on (invoice that confirms your address etc.)?

If you have managed to bypass any of these requirements and still manage to become a client in a Casino you are indeed unique, or do you have your own suggestion which should be implemented throughout all Casinos in Europe?  LOL
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Third

Re: The Crystal Roulette
« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2019, 02:25:37 PM »
Well even though I need to give my online casino my underwear size to prove exactly who I am and where I am, I don't think they "broadcast my account winnings worldwide"?

 

thomasleor

Re: The Crystal Roulette
« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2019, 02:36:25 PM »
"broadcast my account winnings worldwide"?

People these days donĀ“t care. They are already broadacasting (to the whole world)  their friggin lunches, dogs, homes, time and destination of semester vacations (which thieves love) on Instagram, Facebook etc.
 

dobbelsteen

Re: The Crystal Roulette
« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2019, 02:56:17 PM »
The Crystal roulette is not a new roulette game or an improved European roulette. I have offered a license for the Dutch table. Dutch roulette has so many benefits and  is an particular innovation.
The only innovation of the Crystal roulette is the touch table for 7 players.

I think the roulette does not use a RNG but a kind of database. There is a connection between the outcome and the number of fiches on the table. How the techniek works is a secret patent.
 
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scepticus

Re: The Crystal Roulette
« Reply #12 on: July 18, 2019, 03:16:35 PM »
There is a connection between the outcome and the number of fiches on the table. How the techniek works is a secret patent.

Dobbelsteen
If so  is this  cheating  ?
 
 
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thomasleor

Re: The Crystal Roulette
« Reply #13 on: July 18, 2019, 03:28:21 PM »
Dobbelsteen got things (as per usual) wrong once again


Patent secrecy is an erroneous term (with one exception). There is something called Patent, Trademark and Trade Secret.

Read more about it here. https://corporate.findlaw.com/intellectual-property/patent-trademark-and-trade-secret.html

The US however has, via its USPTO, had the special Invention Secrecy Act (introduced 1952), which allows USPTO to keep patents deemed "Detrimental to the national security" on lockdown. Under this act, a commissioner of the USPTO became empowered to flag patent applications - even those developed by private citizens - for review by the US Government defence agencies, which could request that certain inventions be kept secret. EU is implementing a similar system,  though not as harsh.

The Tangiamo Touch Technology is hardware wise an open patent,  freely available at your patent office. The software on the other hand is a trade secret and protected by the laws I linked above.


The Crystal roulette itself as a 3-D spinning beautiful crystal-like wheel, spinning in a touch screen, is quite new and unique, I can assure you. No company to this day has managed this.

I know what you refer to which is the screen and the attached physical wheel on the side. That is of course old tech but still good.

Your "Dutch roulette" is btw a simple rip off of the wheel distribution order (European Single Zero Roulette) laid on a felt. No Casino outside your own hometown will ever be interested in something like that, especially not paying any licensing fees for the service, but they might offer it as mere curiosa, much like the bearded lady was in past century on small obscure Circuses.


The only thing they need is a good local printer and a nice, water resisting layout (part polyester).  ;D
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Third

Re: The Crystal Roulette
« Reply #14 on: July 18, 2019, 03:51:01 PM »
The Dutch layout is not a ripoff, its a helpful innovation.  A casino might denigrate it however as the confusion between the felt and the wheel is certainly deliberate.