### Author Topic: The probabillity to go from 5000 to 200000  (Read 720 times)

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#### Jesper

##### The probabillity to go from 5000 to 200000
« on: July 08, 2019, 12:33:05 PM »
I have done  it, OK with very risky bold play, but whats is the probability?  I may slow down my maniac play a bit (may be see a doctor or ask my wife), as the bad run may just be on the corner.  Most of the play was NOZ, but do to restriction I had to use a few casinos, all with 0.1. , but zero (noz IS 0.05).  The casinos have limits, as BV max 6000 Euro you are allowed to win. that IS OVER THE LIMIT as 2000000 cents is 20000 Euro, and min is 5 cents. My start was 5 cents in units (500 EU). I did some bold betting up to 300 Euro at the end. I took a bold chance and may for sure have lost all, witout a good luck.

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#### MickyP

##### Re: The probabillity to go from 5000 to 200000
« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2019, 01:12:57 PM »
It is very possible to achieve these type of gains but pushing it to achieve this in one go is crazy especially if you are playing the same system/method the whole way. Many systems/methods rely on cycles or trends, even Pales Single Dozen System is subject to table trends.

5000 to 200000 is 40 times your bankroll of 5000. You must make 2000 dollars (200000 cents) from fifty dollars (5000 cents). Setting this type of win goal is not realistic unless you chip up or down at every opportunity but time becomes a leading factor as well. On a B/M table it is a pipe dream to try and achieve this in one day but very possible to accomplish within 40 days.

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#### Jesper

##### Re: The probabillity to go from 5000 to 200000
« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2019, 01:33:43 PM »
It was not in ONE game rather a lot. I did took risk, while not stop at a small new high in a positive progression. Just think (not use scary money) if a good streak will come.  500 Euro is a weeks income for me, and I can risk that a few times a year.  We can win small, but if we want more bold is the way, risky yes.  No system last with small winnings, it has to be so as it can recover or go bust.  I have sometimes got down in bet after just recover, and stay on the same got a frequent hit, if wedare to press we can win more at risk. That's why I say, as long it is not scary money we can do.

#### MickyP

##### Re: The probabillity to go from 5000 to 200000
« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2019, 03:38:21 PM »
I understand your point, Jesper. If your method wins with small bets, it will win with big bets too. You speak about risk and here you see risk as pushing for a few more wins after an initial win. I understand this. catching a winning trend can be very profitable but we really have no idea on when trends start and when they will end, hence the risk factor.

I think to start with small bets and build up the bankroll to a point where you can chip up without too much concern of harsh losses is the way to go. Casino bankroll is money you can afford to lose without affecting your daily life. You should not rely on your casino bankroll to pay your bills. Once casino winnings are transferred to your private bank account you can use that money any way you wish. Building up casino funds (bankroll) is the safest way to be able to chip up. All this must be carried out to afford losses along the way. Step one is to create additional bankrolls (about 5) the same size as the initial bankroll before you chip up. Repeat this process before you chip up again. Eventually you will be be able to make 2000 dollars in one small session.

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#### Jesper

##### Re: The probabillity to go from 5000 to 200000
« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2019, 05:24:27 PM »
I do not use to chip up, as a strong bank is important, but sometimes I do it during a short period, then I may chip up 100 fold.

#### Jesper

##### Re: The probabillity to go from 5000 to 200000
« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2019, 01:30:47 PM »
HOW MUCH IS YOUR BANKROL?  Power of that is important, and if a general loss, it should not kill, at most a damage of some flesh  Anastasia is in the game with some loss.

#### MickyP

##### Re: The probabillity to go from 5000 to 200000
« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2019, 01:37:47 PM »
Bankrolls differ depending on the platform you play on. Smallest bankroll is awarded to B/M tables and largest bankroll is for the RNG guys.

#### Jesper

##### Re: The probabillity to go from 5000 to 200000
« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2019, 01:45:30 PM »
Micke!
I do not agree, in BM would the losing streaks be smaller, and the min bets needs some real stack of money.

With in money like 200 dollars you can not stand a bet min with one. (in the long run)  In cent, we can stand and if not that is good, we can try again, and not lose all we got.   10000   that's more in cents, Euro was my pennies win this year.

High bets and bold win more, if you can effort the loss.

#### MickyP

##### Re: The probabillity to go from 5000 to 200000
« Reply #8 on: August 02, 2019, 04:00:09 PM »
I see your point Jesper. It is then best to discuss bankroll in terms of units and not monetary value. 200 units is a generous bankroll for B/M tables. What do you consider generous for your platform?

Generous would allow you to lose two or three sessions in a row.
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#### Jesper

##### Re: The probabillity to go from 5000 to 200000
« Reply #9 on: August 02, 2019, 05:31:32 PM »
500 Euro is 5000 or 50000 how you chose the lower bet.  Do not try other than in inside or combination but brave inside. The cent becomes higher.

We lose sometimes RFH. A good number of bullet helps, And if we lose that by 10000 spins, cents are very cheaper.

I did (as usual) 12000 cents today. If I use 500 Euro on 0.1 chip; I could win more, but have harder to stand a loss and may bust (too early)  A bust in cents can be a cost, but not too large[size=78%].[/size]

#### GIAJJENNO

##### Re: The probabillity to go from 5000 to 200000
« Reply #10 on: August 02, 2019, 07:02:47 PM »
To Jesper

You think it is advantage to have bigger bankroll? Supposing you goes up with progression more and more to bet, not guarentees that it will hit, so in my opinion bigger bankroll -> bigger lost -> less chance to be profitable player.

#### Jesper

##### Re: The probabillity to go from 5000 to 200000
« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2019, 04:20:09 AM »
It is not needed to rise the bet fast to make a heavy loss. Many near flat methods can come so far back, it is no use to try to recoup.  On the other hand a too small bank will lose rather fast. We must count the spins not the time, as players who put very few bet can keep a smaller bank longer.

At the end it will be losing sessions, and we win as long the losing is smaller i total.  There is no way to avoid a loss.
A higher bank make the loss less frequent, but it can be larger.