### Author Topic: Using corner bets and positive progression.  (Read 2906 times)

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#### Jesper

##### Using corner bets and positive progression.
« on: July 04, 2019, 11:26:45 AM »
The  idea of chose a target number and bet a few chances  beside to get hits with lower payout is a common way i play. On NOZ I can start with near all numbers.  There are fair payout on NOZ and there are even single and double zero wheels which pay fair on some bets, and pay back outside bets if zero hits. On those wheels the outside bets should be used if possible.

I did well using four corner bet in the middle col, one in each corner. That is nine number covered. On a hit we add a chip at the location which hit, and play until we get a profit. If the target number hit, and we are back, we add to the number five units, i.e., one on each corner and one straight up.   The sessions use to run witout heavy swing down and up. The stop loss is to the player to judge. I got winning on every trial, but as any way we play, we can lose. I do not say it is "allways winning", but on a HA of zero, it is the variance only.

I recall a thread there Reyth used two corners in six numbers, but the progression was negative.

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#### Third

##### Re: Using corner bets and positive progression.
« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2019, 09:11:47 PM »
I did well using four corner bet in the middle col, one in each corner. That is nine number covered.

I do not understand the red, when the bolded is 16 numbers plus 4 numbers = 20 numbers.  For example:

Corner 1: 0,1,2,3  SU: 2
Corner 2: 4,5,7,8 SU: 8
Corner 3: 11,12,14,15 SU: 15
Corner 4: 16,17,19,20 SU: 20

is 20 numbers (or 16)?

What am I misunderstanding?

Thanks.

#### Jesper

##### Re: Using corner bets and positive progression.
« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2019, 02:51:57 AM »
It is nine numbers, I bet allways a number in the second col.  If I chose 17 I bet  number   15 to 19  four corners on 17.

#### Third

##### Re: Using corner bets and positive progression.
« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2019, 03:13:21 AM »
Aha!  I get it.  Thanks!

I like the idea of a positive progression.  I would like to know the drawdowns you discover and the minimum bank balance you would recommend.

#### Jesper

##### Re: Using corner bets and positive progression.
« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2019, 05:08:44 AM »
I play with rather  large bank, in units, but more modest in money.  0.1 Euro chips, and then 5000 of them.  Most of the time we win while 10 to 40 chips as the largest drawdown, but it is no limit, in a RFH  it can happen we just dive, and decide to stop. I have not yet using this method stop because of big loss, but stop after a hit which never return plus. I.e. start over the progression.  On a fast on line wheel, the speed is high, and  an Euro a session plus, or even less adds up. It has been bets of about 100 chips. Sometimes I gain 20 Euro, as I do not allways restart on first plus rather press it for some more hits, and if it become true, the winning is rapid up.  We can as in all play meet a session which "never" win, and lose high. That is the reason I have small stakes, and a large in number of chips bankroll, which will not harm too much if it should be lost.

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#### Third

##### Re: Using corner bets and positive progression.
« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2019, 07:21:08 AM »
Very interesting!!

There is this guy galled something like "OnlineRouletteGambler" that would love your approach, I am sure.  He plays a similar method but always negative progression.

I think I will practice this for fun!

#### Third

##### Re: Using corner bets and positive progression.
« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2019, 08:30:22 AM »
Wow!  I doubled my balance in about 30 spins!

I spun a few times until the first number out in the middle column other than the number 2 and it was 11.  I started playing with \$.25 with \$170 balance and got 3 total hits on 11; the last hit was \$86.25 (345 units)!!

I just kept pressing without resetting.

I like this kind of positive progression!

I'm thinking that any time you have well performing numbers that are connected, this strategy can be used...

0- 19  19 1- 16  16 2- 20  20 3- 15  15 4- 28  28 5- 22  22 6- 23  23 7- 18  18 8- 25  25 9- 17  17 10- 17  17 11- 19  19 12- 26  26 13- 22  22 14- 22  22 15- 19  19 16- 20  20 17- 16  16 18- 20  20 19- 20  20 20- 19  19 21- 18  18 22- 11  11 23- 21  21 24- 30  30 25- 15  15 26- 25  25 27- 15  15 28- 22  22 29- 16  16 30- 23  23 31- 18  18 32- 12  12 33- 20  20 34- 24  24 35- 15  15 36- 18  18

Here we have 14 with 22 hits, 13 with 22 hits, 12 with 26 hits and 11 with 19 hits; not the hottest section on the board but a good combined hit rate, playing off of 14.

This would be the idea for the full position but what about a partial position?  The hottest number is 24 and so what if we did the 23-24 split and the left corners covering 20 and 26?

« Last Edit: July 05, 2019, 08:54:14 AM by Third »

#### Jesper

##### Re: Using corner bets and positive progression.
« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2019, 10:24:00 AM »
You can change the method, and if you are at believe of hot numbers it is OK. A success in a short run is common, so take care.  I have got about 10000 spins and won. It is possible you can do the same, but it is not likely. The method works only if random happens to suit.  The method is anyhow simple and better than a lot of complicated  voodoo methods common here.  If you have assess to NOZ try!

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#### Jesper

##### Re: Using corner bets and positive progression.
« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2019, 03:08:35 PM »
I am still winning, and not few, using the method. BUT be aware if I win you can lose, as any method we can lose or win.  My plus is 23986 units (SEK 1, or 0,1 Euro)

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#### GIAJJENNO

##### Re: Using corner bets and positive progression.
« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2019, 04:04:24 PM »
Jesper, you choose in the middle column numbers to bet randomly or with your own pattern?

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#### Jesper

##### Re: Using corner bets and positive progression.
« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2019, 04:12:48 PM »
I take a number, whitout any special selection, just pick.

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#### GIAJJENNO

##### Re: Using corner bets and positive progression.
« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2019, 06:33:14 PM »
Just to clarify if I played it wrong or well, sorry for my questions.

I choosed number 5, so I palyed 1-5, 4-8, 2-6, 5-9 coners with 1-1 units each. After few spins 4 come, so I must add 1 units on corners 4-8 and 1-5 ? Then 3 comed and I must add +1 chips on 2-6 and 5-9? Or not ? I had now 3 units on 5 and 2-2 on each corners, than after 10 spins 5 came, and I was up +50 units. Then I raised +1 for the straght number+corners, and after 3 spins I had a hit so I closed the door with +62 units.

This is a normal play was ?

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#### Jesper

##### Re: Using corner bets and positive progression.
« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2019, 07:55:44 PM »
Looks like you do as I do!  62+ is  good!
« Last Edit: July 05, 2019, 07:57:23 PM by Jesper »

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#### Third

##### Re: Using corner bets and positive progression.
« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2019, 11:11:24 PM »
hahah, so much fun!

my "system" suite the permanents.

What's this??
« Last Edit: July 05, 2019, 11:16:43 PM by Third »

#### GIAJJENNO

##### Re: Using corner bets and positive progression.
« Reply #14 on: July 05, 2019, 11:34:58 PM »
hahah, so much fun!

my "system" suite the permanents.

What's this??

Not so funny when the main numebr not get a hit after so many spins, just the corners sometimes