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scepticus

Re: winning system anyone?
« Reply #30 on: July 02, 2019, 02:26:08 PM »
 "very easy is to test and your play and calculate how big is your edge , if it is "  I already have posted it bebeb- and solaris confirmed it by actually testing it .   
 

scepticus

Re: winning system anyone?
« Reply #31 on: July 02, 2019, 02:35:23 PM »
Dr Talos thinks there is no need for Bet Selection. I do not agree . If you don't have the winning number in your selection then you lose . Simple .
Relying on only differential  odds is high risk .  Isn't Dr Talos' method just a parachute method ?
 

DrTalos

Re: winning system anyone?
« Reply #32 on: July 02, 2019, 02:38:26 PM »
I show you a couple of example, so you can get ideas out of it, Third.
  Yesterday I had a very long game, exactly 114 spins. My worst moment was around spin 86/87, when I had an outstanding balance of -172. They way I designed my sistem now will allow me to reach 500 units as max exposure, but was the first time that crossed 100 pieces. (To be honest, the new version is just a few months old, so statistically is still a new land to discover). I keep always three times more bank that the max exposure faced (so from now on is 550).
  The game ended with a positive 12 pieces, for almost two hours of play. Doesn't seems much, but at the end of the night my total win was 126 pieces.

Second thing. I faced a problem with a table. They closed down in my face. I was the only player, with 25$ chips. They gave me a 2 spins warning and they closed. They thought that could have been an hard hit on me. I was a little over -30, and they were smiling...
  I moved to the next table, like nothing has happen. I continued my game and I end the game in 12 spins, gaining 9 units. The first table was still counting chips for closing. I knew they were looking at me. I walked there, I left a chip as tip to the dealer, smiling.
 
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Third

Re: winning system anyone?
« Reply #33 on: July 02, 2019, 03:06:14 PM »
Funny, I did get an idea from it.  It made me think you are playing something like EC+X, where the EC (High/Low) will pay a very small amount but the main selection (DZ/DS(s)) will pay your target; the concept being that this would somehow keep expenses low :shrug:
 

Frequency

Re: winning system anyone?
« Reply #34 on: July 03, 2019, 12:48:18 AM »
How many games approximately have you have been playing without reaching 100- units exposure? I assume that is now a very rare event after you redesigned your system or maybe you have not played a lot lately.
« Last Edit: July 03, 2019, 01:11:50 AM by Frequency »
 

DrTalos

Re: winning system anyone?
« Reply #35 on: July 03, 2019, 01:54:28 AM »
I usually play around3/4 days a week, ten to twelve hours (with frequent stops). Most of games ends in first spins, getting me from 1 to 3 pieces profit. One out of ten games goes to spin 5 (what I call the recovery mode). Usually that last less than 40 spins.
  I play 200/250 games a day, and my profit is 160 to 200 units.
  In the last 4 months I played roughly 10000 games, probably 22/23 thousand spins. Let's say 400 spins a day, 2000/2400 spins a week... yeah seems about right. When I changed I started with airball, 5$ units. Then I moved to 10 and after to 25$. Moved to table because it is to much for some airball machines. If can halp, I did notice that in the real wheel games are a little shorter, but this can be a false perception.

  I think is tested enough. And consider that is not completely new. I made it a little more aggressive because for years I never used the full progression, not even close, so I tried to get more advantage on short games. The only down side is that sometimes I play for an hour just to get 1 unit. There was a point when I was just chasing safety, now I chase money...

I keep my playing costant over years. I consider it a job, and act accordingly. I will retire at 57/58, I presume. That will bring me to play occasionaly after that (I am 50 now). Hope this clarifies it to you.

 
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Third

Re: winning system anyone?
« Reply #36 on: July 03, 2019, 02:15:07 AM »
Your advice has been of very great value to me; even without your secret, your principles are the very keys to win.  I feel very fortunate to have "met" you.  Thank you very much.  :'(
 

leowls

Re: winning system anyone?
« Reply #37 on: July 03, 2019, 03:46:34 AM »
Drtalos aren't u afraid your system will be exposed by playing at a real table?
 

Third

Re: winning system anyone?
« Reply #38 on: July 03, 2019, 04:14:31 AM »
(he has had someone who viewed his system in person and offered to pay him a large sum to teach it to him -- Talos declined)
 

Greek

Re: winning system anyone?
« Reply #39 on: July 03, 2019, 05:21:32 AM »
To me a winning system is simple, requires only 12 spins, 8 spins to determine what to play, and only 1 to 4 spins to win. If a player can achieve that, they have a winning system.
 
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Third

Re: winning system anyone?
« Reply #40 on: July 03, 2019, 05:55:41 AM »
Except when you lose.
 

Greek

Re: winning system anyone?
« Reply #41 on: July 03, 2019, 06:20:02 AM »
Except when you lose.
Let me qualify that.

To me a winning system is simple, requires only 12 spins, 8 spins to determine what to play, and only 1 to 4 spins to win. If a player can achieve that, they have a winning system.

What constitutes a winning system? Playing the above will win 8 out of 10 sessions. Yes, there is a possibility it may not hit, losing 2 out of 10 attempts makes it a winning system.
« Last Edit: July 03, 2019, 06:22:39 AM by Greek »
 
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DrTalos

Re: winning system anyone?
« Reply #42 on: July 03, 2019, 10:50:01 AM »
Third, you and few others are the reason why I am here, why I started posting years ago. I was tired of sellers, scammers and Naysayers. I wished everybody could try to reach the impossible, and some believed that and succeeded. This is my joy, my way to give back.
[/size]  I provide advices, directions or just encouragement to find your own way.
[/size]  There are always new players searching for their road, and I am here for them.
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[/size]Leowls, my system is not in the numbers I play, but in the way I manage the recovery. You can sure get the first spins, and win most of the time, but how to recover when it does not happen, that is all in my mind. I do my math in my mind, all of it, and because I don't have a bet selection, nobody can get it. I travel a lot, so I visit the same casino 2/3 times a year, no more. I am sure they know me, but there is nothng they can do now to stop me. I am more concerned about thieves and gold diggers, but I have my countermeasures for them too.
[/size]  I have grown ambitious recently, and I set a goal. Look forward to reach it.
 
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Third

Re: winning system anyone?
« Reply #43 on: July 03, 2019, 11:54:50 AM »
What constitutes a winning system? Playing the above will win 8 out of 10 sessions. Yes, there is a possibility it may not hit, losing 2 out of 10 attempts makes it a winning system.

I have a system that wins 8 out of 10 times and 20% is a very large gap that can produce tremendous successive loss sequences; sure most of the time I win straight out but if we go to the well many times daily, we will see these losing streaks regularly.

So there is more...

EDIT: I will say though, that an 80% win rate will produce a pattern that can be exploited to survive and recover from even the worst sequence.
« Last Edit: July 03, 2019, 12:18:06 PM by Third »
 
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MickyP

Re: winning system anyone?
« Reply #44 on: July 03, 2019, 01:59:38 PM »
An 80% win rate is realistic in roulette especially when you play the wheel.

DrTalos, I do agree with the way you approach roulette. Your words have assisted me in developing new methods of play. Although your bet selection is random I have focused on the wheel. I have found that a random bet selection (target area) misfires too often and does not give me the constant 80% plus win rate I work towards. Playing the wheel means a bigger bankroll but with the consistent gains I find safety in my play style.

In spite of the fact that the methods I use have been extensively tested, I continue testing them according to parameters I have set myself. A test I recently conducted had me reach my monthly win goal in 8 days instead of 20. This is pretty much the norm for me. I have managed to control my play and not leave it up to random to decide.
You continue to inspire me and I suppose other players as well. Thank you.

Greek, It is not an easy task trying to explain to others that an 80% win rate will be successful. How many players actually manage their play? I know you do and DrTalos does as well. How many players will be happy winning one unit after an hour of play? Not many at all; most will fold and get reckless. People on the forum should take you more seriously.
 
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