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scepticus

Re: winning system anyone?
« Reply #15 on: June 29, 2019, 01:54:52 PM »
Bebediktus

1 ) I never said that Scott did not know how to play roulette . Even I know how to play roulette !

2 )  You produce no evidence that what Scoblette said was wrong .

3 ) A Mentor does teach .

4 ) I agree that Ap /VB players “ mostly talk “ and
 They” find it super hard to find  where to play “

 Of course what I say won’t stop others from playing the way they want to play. I have often said that long progressions is not the way to go but it has zero effect on those who play that way !

You still don’t understand why I ridicule about  AP / VB . You guys continually ridicule Method players by saying that AP / VB is THE ONLY WAY - THE TRUE WAY .

Until you guys have the balls to prove your claims at a REAL table in a  REAL casino with your own money I will not believe your claims.

The Heading of this thread is “ Winning System Anyone “ . You produce nothing but words .
 
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Bebediktus

Re: winning system anyone?
« Reply #16 on: June 30, 2019, 09:19:36 PM »
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You guys continually ridicule Method players by saying that AP / VB is THE ONLY WAY - THE TRUE WAY .
Yes i think this and will think till somebody will not show me something other :)
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Until you guys have the balls to prove your claims at a REAL table in a  REAL casino with your own money I will not believe your claims.
I think nobody worry you believe or not ....
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The Heading of this thread is “ Winning System Anyone “ . You produce nothing but words .
And  you ??? ????
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scepticus

Re: winning system anyone?
« Reply #17 on: June 30, 2019, 10:02:57 PM »
bebediktus
  I have showed such a way  . Use the Nine Block idea .  Juggle  the numbers .

  If you do not worry then why do you reply.?
All  you have proved so far is that you are looking for a biased wheel  but not other proof .

« Last Edit: June 30, 2019, 10:04:49 PM by scepticus »
 

MickyP

Re: winning system anyone?
« Reply #18 on: June 30, 2019, 11:59:38 PM »
Septic, what did you prove with your lego blocks????? NOTHING.

You lick butt to try and get people to play with your blocks and a few do try now and then but they fail in the same way you have continued failing all this time. Fake guarantee BS

AP/VB is not just about biased wheels. Study the approach before you comment.
 

Bebediktus

Re: winning system anyone?
« Reply #19 on: July 01, 2019, 05:27:17 AM »
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If you do not worry then why do you reply.?
I reply not because I worry you believe or not, but because you write what you not know.

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All  you have proved so far is that you are looking for a biased wheel  but not other proof .
I nothing here try to proove.
 And at all VB and all AP is not what need to proove. For one - better is drive car , for other fly with plane, for third walk step by step...
You want walk - good, but not say, that fly is worse...especially when you never flyied...
 

scepticus

Re: winning system anyone?
« Reply #20 on: July 01, 2019, 10:04:34 AM »
Bebe
If I don't know what I say here you need to prove that Pawlicki ,Thorp  and Scoblette are wrong .

Over to you .
Incidentally, I did not START this thread .
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Bebediktus

Re: winning system anyone?
« Reply #21 on: July 01, 2019, 11:07:56 AM »
In what they are wrong ???
You understand himself what is your aim what you want to reach ? Looks that for you important only be against...

Now you simply talk - AP is not possible , but what is that AP - you not know.

How can be bad meter with which we measure  how long something is ?

All AP is comparing history with reality. What was in past - something similar must be in future, because all forces and all situations are the same or similar !!!

If apple fall down when Newton lived - the same  it must do nowdays ! Because no any significiant changes. And if are some changes - for that is players skill - to notice them and know how to react !!
 

scepticus

Re: winning system anyone?
« Reply #22 on: July 01, 2019, 01:03:08 PM »
If  Pawlicki is right in telling what VB is - and I understand what he  says - why do you say I don't understand ?
So, to prove that I am wrong you must prove Pawlicki wrong or that I don't understand Pawlicki.  This you fail to do .
 I don't think I said that AP was not possible but that you need a computer to play it ...and you  don't use a computer . As you don't play AP no need to explain it here - thoughI could .

Amusing that you object to criticisism  of VB  yet continue to criticise Method players .
 

Jesper

Re: winning system anyone?
« Reply #23 on: July 01, 2019, 08:03:00 PM »
There is now "Winnig!" system!  You can win  a lot. It is up to luck. There are system can help you for a while and if it suits the wheel at the moment, you can win, you can win much. No system win på it self.  I have got from 500 tp 50000 using system, but all goes to luck.
 

Bebediktus

Re: winning system anyone?
« Reply #24 on: July 01, 2019, 08:42:47 PM »
If  Pawlicki is right in telling what VB is - and I understand what he  says - why do you say I don't understand ?
So, to prove that I am wrong you must prove Pawlicki wrong or that I don't understand Pawlicki.  This you fail to do .
I not understand why here is that Pawlicky ? As I can decide acordingly what you here write - you simply not understand what is AP. And Pavlicki here nothing will help to you...

Several persons from forums saw me in play . I met many ( maybe 10 ) persons from forums in looking for some good players, but i not found what i looked...
If I will think that you are real player and if i will believe that you can play good, I very easy will invite you to play in the same casino and to discuss direct in place.

Problem is that I not think that you are real player. You are too against advanced methods :) . No logic to be player and fight against that. That do only casino peoples.. :)

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yet continue to criticise Method players .
Copy paste mine critick , I want to read :)
 

scepticus

Re: winning system anyone?
« Reply #25 on: July 02, 2019, 03:58:19 AM »
To put it simply. bebediktus  - Do you agree with the way Pawlicki describes how to play VB ?
AP means Advantage Play  and refers to  wheelwatchers  who  use a computer .

VB players are wheelwatchers who do not use a computer .

Are you prepared to put your money where your mouth is when you  claim  that  I am not a real player ?
Copy Paste ?
Yes i think this and will think till somebody will not show me something other
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Bebediktus

Re: winning system anyone?
« Reply #26 on: July 02, 2019, 05:43:56 AM »
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To put it simply. bebediktus  - Do you agree with the way Pawlicki describes how to play VB ?
Pawlicki wrote his book maybe 20 years back. In the book, all described very pure...I play other, so agree, not agree is not that question. Here is similar like to ask who played better in chess - Lasker 100 years back or Karlsen now? Of course, Karlsen plays better and significant. So how I can agree with what was 20 years back? Life goes in front not stay...
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AP means Advantage Play  and refers to  wheelwatchers  who  use a computer .
Ap means any play where a player creates an advantage, no matter how he plays and what he use...
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VB players are wheelwatchers who do not use a computer .
I said no matter how who play and what use - important play with advantage or without. Nobody use only VB - all use all complex...
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Are you prepared to put your money where your mouth is when you  claim  that  I am not a real player ?
Of course I not sure in 100% but i decide because your talk is super not logical. Player want to win, so he wants knowledge. You want attack methods which create an advantage. Understand that any player which earn from the play will attack methods which can give him benefit?
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Yes i think this and will think till somebody will not show me something other
So point me where is critic? Till now i not saw any player who will win without creating advantage and not imagine how that to do. But with creating advantage - saw...
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scepticus

Re: winning system anyone?
« Reply #27 on: July 02, 2019, 10:38:34 AM »
1 )  The basics of  wheelwatching  are still the same as in Pawlicki's day.
2 / 3 )  Yes . Advantage Play  ( AP  )  means the player has created  an Edge  but , in Roulette,   AP refers ONLY to   wheelwatchers who use a computer .  Glad to see that you agree that a Method player can create an advanthage !VB players here have said ONLY that they use VB and not a mixture . Good Luck wilth your Mixture .

4 ) So you backtrack on your slur ?
5 ) THAT is a criticism . You  are  claiming  that because you have seen no evidence then no Merhod is valuable . Not a logical conclusion .. 
 

Bebediktus

Re: winning system anyone?
« Reply #28 on: July 02, 2019, 11:21:25 AM »
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The basics of  wheelwatching  are still the same as in Pawlicki's day.
Not say such because that is not true . The goat have four legs and horns, the same like deer, so what they are the same animals   :) ?
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AP refers ONLY to   wheelwatchers who use a computer
I think nowdays - all peoples use computers :), or you mean that computer play instead human ?
I doubt if you good understand what do computer for advantage player...
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THAT is a criticism . You  are  claiming  that because you have seen no evidence then no Merhod is valuable . Not a logical conclusion .. 
For me without difference in which way I got advantage. I have methodic which very exact detect, if play is with advantage or without, every can test  play acordingly that methodic and  and all will be clear.
very easy is to test and your play and calculate how big is your edge , if it is
 

Third

Re: winning system anyone?
« Reply #29 on: July 02, 2019, 01:36:22 PM »
Talos says that his system will win no matter which of the available bet selections he chooses to play; i.e. he plays each possible selection with the same spin sequence and wins all of them.  This is the goal that we must all strive toward; we should craft our system with this goal in mind.  We must be able to handle the worst in order to succeed long term.  The worst selection is not our biggest problem!  Our biggest problem is getting in our own way, forcing roulette to give us results that are worse than the worst!
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