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System Question
« on: May 16, 2019, 04:01:34 PM »

If your entry point and your exit point of your system is not left to mother luck but to a well calculated chance of winning, would your chance of winning increase?
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[/size]Let me state it differently, if you could start inside winning streaks and exit losing streaks before losing your shirt, would this make you a winning instead of a losing player?
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[/size]Because if this is true I might have something interesting which involves the chaos theory combined with moving averages.
 

DrTalos

Re: System Question
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2019, 04:54:04 PM »
My perception is that any session that you play is a match of a championship. This championship begins when tou walk in the first time, and ends with your death. For the vast majority of people, they end up second while the wheels wins the championship, rise the award, and get a lot of your money.
 The game, the single session (for me is a day of playing) can be won or lost, what that matters is who wins the championship. How the wheel wins? It wins doing one thing, and just one, perfectly. How a player can win a single session? By luck, by strategy or system. How can he win a championship? That the whole point of a forum like this one.
  As I wrote, wheel does just one thing, Perfectly. Players tends to do many things, and a s***ton of mistakes. So, first of all, before approaching any system or strategy, a player must correct his mistakes (gambling, first and foremost, then adeguate bankroll, right expectations, discipline, and so on and so forth). In this view, the discrimination between winning or losing kinda fades out. Sometimes you learn more losing than winning, if you get the lesson (you are playing a championship).
  But, you say, this is a game with negatives expectations. Casinos will win, no matter what. Well, even lottery or scratch and win are on dealers favor, and more heavily than the roulette. Still, some manage to became millionaires scratching a piece of paper. Can we win in a game that has a fixed payout, and never as enormous as a lottery? We can't relay on luck (a lottery is a single event, while a spin in roulette is a hundreds time events a day). So we have to go back to the metaphor of the match.

We can decide the size of our team, th quality of it, and when to play. And most important we decide how we play. How more you study the exact mechanisms your opponents use, the better are your chance to defeat it. You evoke chaos theory, and I suggest you to point to the beauty of math. The harmonies that lies in bets, progressions, numbers. The balance, the statistics. You watch the game, without prejudice, without trying to find a pattern or an order inside it. You calm down. You are the observator. And at a certain point you will see.
  If you do not try to bend the game on your favor, it will come to you, like a dog asking to be pet.
 

Re: System Question
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2019, 07:18:29 PM »
Thank you for your thorough response allthough its not answering my question.

Anyone else?
 

Third

Re: System Question
« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2019, 07:51:10 PM »
All we control are two things:

1) The type of bet we make
2) The amount we bet and when we bet it

If we keep our expenses as low as possible, we have the greatest chances of winning aginst the chaos.
 

palestis

Re: System Question
« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2019, 10:27:43 PM »

If your entry point and your exit point of your system is not left to mother luck but to a well calculated chance of winning, would your chance of winning increase?
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[/size]Let me state it differently, if you could start inside winning streaks and exit losing streaks before losing your shirt, would this make you a winning instead of a losing player?
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[/size]Because if this is true I might have something interesting which involves the chaos theory combined with moving averages.
Unfortunately it doesn't work like this in roulette.
Of course if you catch a long winning steak at the beginning and then you lose a couple of bets in what it appears to be a negative streak, naturally you will get out and prevail as winner.
But usually the streaks, good or bad, are determined after the facts. You can only guess if a streak will turn out good or bad beforehand.
Just because you see a good streak for your system, it doesn't mean it will continue when you start betting. At the same time a negative streak might turn positive for your system, but since you avoid betting you will lose the chance.
The only way to know how a system will turn out is by extensive testing.
There is no way around this.
Luck should never be the option when you play roulette full time.
But to answer your question, yes if you take advantage of positive streaks, and avoid negative,  of course you will be a winner. It's not even a chance. it is almost certain.

 
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Re: System Question
« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2019, 11:24:12 PM »
Sorry, need to modify my post here, we control THREE things:

1) The size of our bankroll
2) The type of bets we make (1:1,2:1,5:1, etc.)
3) The size of our bets and when we make them