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Is This RNG Broken?

Yes, this output is completely unnatural.
Yes, obviously this casino has altered the results and is cheating.
No, roulette produces these kinds of results as part of normal output.

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Third

IS ONLINE RNG BROKEN!?
« on: May 14, 2019, 02:14:50 PM »
Here is a marquee I encountered online while playing with real money:



What do you guys think??
 

GIAJJENNO

Re: IS ONLINE RNG BROKEN!?
« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2019, 02:24:55 PM »
My think that should f*** off the RNG. My first and last RNG play was in pub like like a slot machine was...I was betting dozens and came up 2 4 7 3 9 8 ...my first 6 bet I lost little 20 euro, on the second machine 30, so I stood up, and walked away.

I will NEVER play RNG again.
 
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Re: IS ONLINE RNG BROKEN!?
« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2019, 02:30:42 PM »
LOL!
That's because of this kind of things we say it's not fair. Try to play only one color with a simple progression, after a while it will create a crazy streak on the opposite color, or crazy streaks in a row.
Those are algorithms = man made.
Do you trust men when context is power or money ? Not me :)
 
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MickyP

Re: IS ONLINE RNG BROKEN!?
« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2019, 03:01:05 PM »
The sequence can happen but the odds are very low unless the RNG wheel developed a bias through players slapping their mouse on the desk or the side of the machine....lol

Listen to serious roulette players and do not play RNG. Only play in B/M casinos on tables you qualify for your methods.
 

UnlikelySam

Re: IS ONLINE RNG BROKEN!?
« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2019, 04:39:39 PM »
BTW what system were you playing Third ; dozens EC etc ? That really is a freakish piece of something... :o
 
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Joe

Re: IS ONLINE RNG BROKEN!?
« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2019, 06:26:29 PM »
It's rare, but not that rare. The probability of a number hitting 5 or more times in 8 spins is 1 in 36,000. To put this in perspective, that's equivalent to an even chance streak of 14-15.

So no, it's not "completely unnatural" and you shouldn't assume that the RNG is fixed just because you saw it.
« Last Edit: May 14, 2019, 06:33:32 PM by Joe »
 
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Re: IS ONLINE RNG BROKEN!?
« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2019, 08:15:50 PM »
Joe, the problem is that you will encounter this kind of events way more frequently than that, and never in your favor. Very quickly you see it's going too much against you. I've only played in demo mode, where it's the case too. But heard many ppl frustrated of that very same behaviour, when they don't encounter a similar experience on real roulette.
RNG is only about algorythm, no matter certifications, proves or whatever you want that it's fair, with money under the table, like it happens everywhere, all is possible.
The other possibility, the generated random is just simply not real random, which I believe, but not that much.
 

Re: IS ONLINE RNG BROKEN!?
« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2019, 09:00:48 PM »
How about this...

This is from our "Unfair Roulette" documentary.

 
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Joe

Re: IS ONLINE RNG BROKEN!?
« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2019, 09:38:42 PM »
Joe, the problem is that you will encounter this kind of events way more frequently than that, and never in your favor. Very quickly you see it's going too much against you. I've only played in demo mode, where it's the case too.
I'm not saying that there aren't bent casinos with fixed RNG's but I don't believe it's as common as players make out. For one thing, if you're suspicious in the first place you're going to notice more "unusual" events than you would otherwise, because you're looking for them. And also don't forget that on RNG you can get hundreds of spins in a short time, maybe 10 times more in a given time period than you would in a B & M casino, so no wonder you see more "extreme" events.
Without actual stats over a large number of spins it's hard to draw conclusions about any particular casino, but here I assume Third is just talking about a one-off event, not events like that repeated in a relatively small number of spins.
 
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Re: IS ONLINE RNG BROKEN!?
« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2019, 10:14:07 PM »
I agree with you, and I'm sure not all the RNGs are fixed, but from personal experience, the crazy color streaks (opposite color of course), I had this several times, like +20 times, with one opposite color somewhere inbetween. I have also souvenir of frequent same numbers, like 3-4 times in like 5 spins. I usually don't trust other ppl saying things, but as I've experienced myself the same issues, I give most of them credit.
Anyway, RNG is at potential risk, let's say it like that, and as long as the player knows it, I guess it's ok.
 

Third

Re: IS ONLINE RNG BROKEN!?
« Reply #10 on: May 14, 2019, 10:25:56 PM »
I apologize, could it be possible that I was really tired?  I failed to mention that on this particular sequence (from the bottom), I was betting High and I made $84.

I really, really, really like Joe's posting here!



« Last Edit: May 14, 2019, 10:29:38 PM by Third »
 
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kav

Re: IS ONLINE RNG BROKEN!?
« Reply #11 on: May 14, 2019, 10:48:30 PM »
It's true that strange steaks become much more suspicious because (when) they are most often against us instead of favorable to our bets.
 
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Third

Re: IS ONLINE RNG BROKEN!?
« Reply #12 on: May 15, 2019, 12:11:47 AM »
I have a serious question for you Joe.  How did you calculate the chances of 5 numbers appearing in 10 spins?

@Kav: Its true I have found myself doing it.  We all should be aware that there are definitely rigged RNG's out there and its not necessarily difficult to do it (especially if the results are not audited).
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UnlikelySam

Re: IS ONLINE RNG BROKEN!?
« Reply #13 on: May 15, 2019, 09:47:43 AM »
My sentiments exactly Kav... Third if they really implemented "Sniper Mode" then it would have been curtains for ya  :'(  You actually ended up coining it bro , well done you ;D ....

Ok this was some time ago  what I did couple times... I entered various patterns of Hi Low and the rest of EC in each of its own text file separately... About 2-3 pages of random patterns but all grouped together no spaces or line breaks. Sooooo as the spins hit I used the search function till I had a match of 8 "characters" in the text file and then I reckoned let's see if this pattern can repeat exactly so betted against the pattern...

Well I did win the majority of the time until 1 day when that pattern matched right up to the 15th "character" and only broke the pattern on the 16th :o .... Ohhhh no it didn't ; yes it did... >:( >:( >:(  It felt like it was totally out to get me :-\  Random vs Random... Ohhhh Well it worked while it lasted and made some pretty darn profit...  :D
 

Re: IS ONLINE RNG BROKEN!?
« Reply #14 on: May 15, 2019, 11:31:01 AM »
Just today I test online on RNG a simple method to understand if the software is reliable and fair.
The betting system was:Bet 5 double streets - 30 numbers.Not covered: 1-2-3 street ; 34 - 35- 36 street ; zero (7 numbers)
Every time you win you gain 1 chip, when you lose you lose 5.When you lose, just double and look for three hits in a row to make a new high.
I test this in fun mode with no problem and big profits (fun profits).Today I test it with real money.After about twelve spins the software spun out 7 non covered numbers out of the next 10 spins!!!I lost my bankroll (only 20€ for testing) and learn another lesson.
Consider that in Italy all the online casinos must have the license by the government to work.But everyone knows that evolution gaming/playtech RNG are rigged. They simply play against your bet selection if you play many numbers. The most ridicoulous reaction is when you bet on large sectors - it would be funny to see if wouldn't so sad, you simply can't win. In my experience, although I play mainly in B/M casinos, the best selection to play RNG is play few numbers.
 
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