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#### Astutillo

##### Re: TwoPleinPlus strategy
« Reply #15 on: April 01, 2019, 05:28:24 AM »
Third
Thank you for the math.
May I ask you also the % chance of 2 and 3 numbers to hit within 35 spins?
« Last Edit: April 01, 2019, 05:30:07 AM by Astutillo »

#### Third

##### Re: TwoPleinPlus strategy
« Reply #16 on: April 01, 2019, 07:47:24 AM »

To hit within 35 spins is the following:

2 numbers is 85.71%
3 numbers is 94.81%

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#### MickyP

##### Re: TwoPleinPlus strategy
« Reply #17 on: April 01, 2019, 06:18:40 PM »
Before we get all giddy in the head, Third, please explain how you get to the percentages you quoted. Could just be a carrot for the hungry.

#### GIAJJENNO

##### Re: TwoPleinPlus strategy
« Reply #18 on: April 01, 2019, 07:26:02 PM »
I am curious too...
« Last Edit: April 01, 2019, 08:24:30 PM by kav »

#### Mako

##### Re: TwoPleinPlus strategy
« Reply #19 on: April 01, 2019, 09:00:02 PM »
It's right, I get the same % for both 2 and 3 numbers using basic probability calculation.

We've all seen 2 and 3 numbers miss for 150+ spins, a dozen miss for 20+ spins, two dozen miss for 12+ spins, etc., but given enough spins, say 100,000 or more, the numbers and all their locations will fall in line to EV.

The problem is variance making short spans of time (how long you can sit at a table) the cap in terms of getting probability to work for you versus against you.

Brutal game.

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#### Third

##### Re: TwoPleinPlus strategy
« Reply #20 on: April 01, 2019, 10:32:25 PM »
I dunno, I watched alot of Star Trek as a kid?

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#### palestis

##### Re: TwoPleinPlus strategy
« Reply #21 on: April 02, 2019, 01:45:30 AM »

The problem is variance making short spans of time (how long you can sit at a table) the cap in terms of getting probability to work for you versus against you.

Brutal game.
That is why it's extremely important to perform exhaustive testing on every system you use or plan to use. More specifically you need to know  how far the results can go fruitless, before you have a hit.
Knowing how far the extreme (black swan) can go will help make valuable decisions on how and when to start betting under a specific system.
Start betting form the beginning (after the trigger), and enjoy all winning opportunities, but with the risk of losing it all if the results go to the extreme  upper range where the B/R will be lost.
Or use some virtual losses for the first steps of the betting range, so you can save enough B/R to bet the remaining steps of the range where a hit is guaranteed.
The only way you can lose in doing it this way,  is when you hit a new record that did not materialize
during the exhaustive tests.
The question is will you always hit a new record? Very doubtful

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#### Astutillo

##### Re: TwoPleinPlus strategy
« Reply #22 on: April 02, 2019, 10:34:06 AM »
For a hit & run strategy with this progression today I pick up 3 hottest repeaters and a bankroll of 42€ playing 0.10€ chip

This bankroll allows to play untill complete stage 7  (28 spins) and make a profit whenever you hit.

I dont know the probability % for 3 numbers to hit within 28, maybe someone can do the math.

Easy session and won about a 60% profit very quickly.

Its not gold, can win or lose like everything, but when it wins it's large profit and when it loses you know the amount in advance.
And also every smart guy can tweak it for the better.

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#### Third

##### Re: TwoPleinPlus strategy
« Reply #23 on: April 02, 2019, 04:43:36 PM »
3 numbers within 28 spins is 90.62%.  Here let me give you 3 tables you can reference yourself for 1, 2 & 3 numbers:

1
===

2.698188543319702  0
5.331605911254883  1
7.890073776245117  2
10.38330745697022  3
12.8066806793213  4
15.17222213745117  5
17.46142578125  6
19.7002010345459  7
21.86518287658691  8
23.9503574371338  9
25.99851799011231  10
27.99833488464356  11
29.93407249450684  12
31.8288631439209  13
33.66513061523438  14
35.50325012207031  15
37.2495346069336  16
38.94492340087891  17
40.59983062744141  18
42.2096290588379  19
43.76760864257813  20
45.3059310913086  21
46.78248596191406  22
48.21925354003906  23
49.62108993530273  24
50.98498916625977  25
52.30007934570313  26
53.57746124267578  27
54.84697723388672  28
56.0711555480957  29
57.24814224243164  30
58.40523529052734  31
59.52809143066406  32
60.60421752929688  33
61.67665100097656  34
62.69355773925781  35
63.68802642822266  36

2
===

5.409566879272461  0
10.51223182678223  1
15.35504150390625  2
19.9331398010254  3
24.2667579650879  4
28.36583518981934  5
32.23453521728516  6
35.89551162719727  7
39.3573226928711  8
42.59163665771484  9
45.70042419433594  10
48.6345443725586  11
51.41561889648438  12
54.04827117919922  13
56.54209899902344  14
58.9027557373047  15
61.12100982666016  16
63.21868896484375  17
65.20667266845703  18
67.09178161621094  19
68.87701416015625  20
70.57416534423828  21
72.1680908203125  22
73.67439270019531  23
75.09931945800781  24
76.46356201171875  25
77.72850036621094  26
78.94120025634766  27
80.07794952392578  28
81.15921783447266  29
82.17135620117188  30
83.12235260009766  31
84.04097747802734  32
84.90422821044922  33
85.7197494506836  34
86.4883270263672  35
87.21703338623047  36

3
===

8.10293483734131  0
15.55591773986816  1
22.40258026123047  2
28.68964385986328  3
34.47631072998047  4
39.79673004150391  5
44.67626953125  6
49.16626739501953  7
53.27767181396484  8
57.0841064453125  9
60.57261657714844  10
63.73912048339844  11
66.68321990966797  12
69.38910675048828  13
71.87374114990234  14
74.14175415039063  15
76.23592376708984  16
78.1687469482422  17
79.94197845458984  18
81.56373596191406  19
83.05181884765625  20
84.43336486816406  21
85.69171905517578  22
86.8497772216797  23
87.91162872314453  24
88.8905258178711  25
89.78455352783203  26
90.62152862548828  27
91.36653137207031  28
92.0658187866211  29
92.70745086669922  30
93.29503631591797  31
93.84006500244141  32
94.33799743652344  33
94.80609130859375  34
95.22877502441406  35
95.61654663085938  36
« Last Edit: April 02, 2019, 04:46:09 PM by Third »

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#### oaknshield

##### Re: TwoPleinPlus strategy
« Reply #24 on: April 13, 2019, 06:04:46 PM »
HI
I am using and testing  this method on airball/ RNG.  It wins and looses .
But one thing I've noticed. when a number immediately repeats ( back to back) I've found it almost never comes back for a third time. So ive been leaving out any back to back repeaters
still testing though ...

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#### Astutillo

##### Re: TwoPleinPlus strategy
« Reply #25 on: April 13, 2019, 06:17:37 PM »
Oaknshield thanks for feedback.

I agree with you and never play a number who hits twice in a row.

After testing with two numbers I now play with only one numbers using some virtual loss.

I pick up the first number who repeats three times then start progression.

Win and lose,  but win rate > 60%
Loss limit -225
Win limit + 80/ + 200

I stop whenever hit
Lose session only when you lose every spin in a complete cycle
« Last Edit: April 13, 2019, 06:19:45 PM by Astutillo »

#### oaknshield

##### Re: TwoPleinPlus strategy
« Reply #26 on: April 25, 2019, 06:14:12 PM »
Hi
I did more testing - seems my losses starting adding up
I changed it a little by betting the split of the 2 numbers that repeated  e,g 7 & 30 repeated . I play  7,10  and  27 ,30 .  If a hit comes and its not the repeated number , I continue with the split. If a repeated number comes I stop
this is working better for me ... . for now
BTW I only play 2 numbers that repeat twice in the last 12 spins.

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#### Astutillo

##### Re: TwoPleinPlus strategy
« Reply #27 on: April 26, 2019, 04:05:01 PM »
The original system with 1 or 2 numbers showed no consistency in winning.

Still it has its merit- high profit when wins (related to bankroll) and low bankroll needed.

Maybe bet selection can be improved. I'm gonna test it with a number just awaken after a Full cycle sleep.

Also, for 3 numbers has over 94% to hit in 35 spins as Third said, I think we should also look in this direction.

These days I'm testing something else that could be promising. But RNG even in fun mode is rigged so results cant be trusted.

#### Astutillo

##### Re: TwoPleinPlus strategy
« Reply #28 on: April 26, 2019, 04:20:52 PM »
About bet selection for hot repeaters I think picking the one who hits twice in lets say 12 spins or the first one to hit three times is not enough.

In fact there are cycles where many numbers hit twice or three times and repeaters are well spread.

Sometimes while playing other systems I take notes of all numbers spun. Then after 70 or 80 spins often you see one or two numbers that are really hitting far above their expectation. I mean 6 or 7 times. So I pick em and bet for a full cycle and almost always a couple of hits come.

What I mean we should be sure that a number is really performing above its statistical expectation. This only does not suffice to be sure of winning but at least we bet with no regreats.

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#### MickyP

##### Re: TwoPleinPlus strategy
« Reply #29 on: April 26, 2019, 05:17:51 PM »
Go back and study Ken's Hot Repeater System. It's not complete as it is on the forum but if you study it and change the rules you may just be pleasantly surprised.

Playing one or two "hot" numbers does not always pan out but if you say play four hot numbers your odds increase significantly for a hit within limited spins. It may become necessary to use a progression if things go south.

Selecting the hot numbers to be played is the trick. They will obviously have to be played in a staggered formation.

I think another look at this method will be worth it.

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