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MrPerfect.

Re: Growing/Evolving as a Roulette Player.
« Reply #165 on: March 25, 2019, 04:57:17 PM »
 Scepticus,  l come here to speak roulette. This topic is about evolution of roulette player.
  If someone clearly pretends to be a player and mumble something not related to the game itself, lying, distorting words of others,making quotes outside of the contest, taking rediculos obligations voluntarely to prove their point and not delivering... l can not see such a person as evolving roulette player. That's clearly not evolution signs according to the common logic.
   On this basis l say that such a person displays clear signs of degeneration. 
    Do you think differently ? Please motivate your opinion. 
   
 
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Stratege

Re: Growing/Evolving as a Roulette Player.
« Reply #166 on: March 25, 2019, 05:59:10 PM »
Thomasleor, I am happy to know that my speeches do not impress you. As I said, I have very simple things to pass on, but if Third confirmed his work, it would be extraordinary. I am in this dynamic that you are describing, for good reason. I believe that those who say what to think, using brutality, would rather be MickyP, MrPerfect and mr J. Do you believe that my intervention to shake some beliefs in some personalities of this forum is not useful? It is curious that you analyze my messages but not those of MickyP and MrPerfect which are a chaos of unfounded beliefs, which are usually imposed or defended by vulgar words. So, I confront the violence of some members by showing them that they do not have a very high technical level.

It is a profit for many members to hear another speech (with simple demonstrations and explanations). We can try to fight brutality with politeness, but when it does not work for several months, you have to respond differently. So I took a position to know without giving up anything (scientific researcher, experienced player, philosopher, intellectual ...) to fight some aggressive personalities. The result is very interesting. MickyP and MrPerfect cannot keep a structured speech on progressions. They cannot admit their shortcomings so they tried to say anything. I think this experience is very important for this forum. Too many members do not have enough technical knowledge on roulette to question certain imposed ideas, or they do not have a scientific background and psychology to confront, technically and psychologically, vulgar and aggressive personalities.

Despite their cunning, I demonstrated that they bluffed. On the side of my behavior, I do not need advice, I know what I have to do with aggressive people. My dynamic had a goal and I think it is achieved (still 1 or 2 messages). Rather advise my opponents to change their behavior (threat, slander, allusion to pedophilia, vulgar images ...) Thomasleor, don't confuse places. I know why I am facing these members and my result is very largely positive. Some impose "destructive violence". I brought a "foundational violence" by strongly demonstrating that they did not have a good technical level and that their rudeness was not dissuasive.

Thank you for letting the champions of vulgarity understand that aggression does not work with everyone. I read your reactions to an aggressive member of this forum, MickyP, and I find that you don't have a moral lesson to give to others. Your reaction was pure release. Apply your ideas to yourself or try your morals on my opponents. Do you know that I derive great satisfaction from this experience in this topic? I am very happy to have experienced these clashes (founders).
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scepticus

Re: Growing/Evolving as a Roulette Player.
« Reply #167 on: March 25, 2019, 08:29:26 PM »
Mr Perfect

You clearly miss the point I made.  There was and is no need to use insulting language to make your point .

If you think Stratege was lying by not posting what you claim he said he would post , then you only need  to point that out  without recourse to calling him degenerate. As the saying  goes “ Shoot  down the message , not the messenger!
.“

For example. I don’t think you make as much money from betting roulette and Bitcoin as you claim, but  I don’t call you a degenerate.  Do I ?

I now largely obey kav’s stricture that we stop abusing each other. Why don’t you ? Or, do you really want kav to lock the thread ?
 
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MickyP

Re: Growing/Evolving as a Roulette Player.
« Reply #168 on: March 25, 2019, 09:35:02 PM »
MrPerfect said it like it is on the top of this page.

What contribution to this specific thread has PMS made? Nothing besides dribble. Now that is degenerate in every way.

This thread was derailed a few pages back already so maybe it's best if it is locked.

Septic, the right thing to do is to answer questions and to be short and to the point. BS sermons are not the way to go.

PMS makes me out to be the bad apple because I challenged the BS he began posting. Anyone that goes back and reads the thread will be able to see who really is at fault. Your Preacher buddy called the three of us "the triad", remember?

He lives up to his new name I gave him.
 

MrPerfect.

Re: Growing/Evolving as a Roulette Player.
« Reply #169 on: March 25, 2019, 10:01:31 PM »
Scepticus,  you are free to take sides as you wish. Where you feel more comfortable. 
    It's not about what we think about each other or people in general. It's not about money l make, that's not your business but mine. I do not show it off, unless by "accident". .. like the last time.
 It's all about tolking roulette. He just doesn't tolk it. He tolks members ...  members get pissed off.
  Looks like you are offended more then him.  Is it your other nik by any chance? You guys have a lot in common.
    I think this thema is closed. Should we speak roulette instead? Tell me what you think about players evolution. 
   
 
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scepticus

Re: Growing/Evolving as a Roulette Player.
« Reply #170 on: March 25, 2019, 10:16:30 PM »
I have already posted in this thread   Mr P. my views on evolution. Must I repeat them for you ?
 

Stratege

Re: Growing/Evolving as a Roulette Player.
« Reply #171 on: March 25, 2019, 11:23:22 PM »
Scepticus, I never thought that one of the most experienced members of this forum is so easy to knock (KO) on the subject of progressions. I understand that he now says anything about me, since he is sounded for many more years!  :o

I have a very good creativity (it is an impulse against degeneration). What I brought in this discussion is important. MickyP did not know that a negative progression is useless on a winning method, because he does not have a winning method. MrPerfect changed his mind several times to make it seem like he was using progressions intelligently, but I explained that it was a trick, he does not understand anything. So, he insists again and again for me to explain the positive progression. Maybe he has a winning method, but like a lot of Visual Basic players, he earns very little, so he wants a way to earn a lot of roulette? otherwise why insist for several days?

MrPerfect says that serious players know positive progressions and he also claims to know how to use this progression (his explanation is a disaster). Why ask me for a demonstration on something that is not more complicated than negative progressions? Some members say they are experienced, then they say that beginners must look for themselves, but MrPerfect insults me, if I let him go alone. He is still in his contradiction.

It's easy to take his tests + his game history and observe the structure of winning and losing shots. A winning method offers a wide variety of advantageous positive progressions. Making a better demonstration than flat bet is easy. Even a beginner could get there, if he knows a little negative progressions. But the hard part is finding "the best" positive progression. Some statistical information on our winning selection helps to understand when to increase and when to decrease its bet. With a "positive progression in construction", we must study the winning shots of our method. The rest of the work is like a search with a negative progression. The only difference is that we increase our bet in the opposite direction. There is no particular secret.

For an expert level, it is necessary to use combinatorics to predict certain spins that have a favorable double probability: the probability of the method + the probability of coming out of a negative internal gap (formed between certain indirect spins). But there are also positive internal gaps that indicate that the positive probability of the method will generally be nullified on some spins. I do not develop this very technical part, it's just to show that greater efficiency is always possible. To study this it is imperative to build the combinatorial model and "verify" it.

For this expert level, one must not be degenerated. Aggressiveness is a sign of depression and degeneration, it exhausts the nerves and causes absurd behavior (a vulgar vocabulary, delirious images ...). Some say I did not bring anything into this discussion. It's called denial! This is one of the main signs of psychosis. Denial is a defense mechanism against "fragmentation anxiety" (the division of self-image).
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MickyP

Re: Growing/Evolving as a Roulette Player.
« Reply #172 on: March 25, 2019, 11:50:50 PM »
Boy oh boy. What can I say about the pastor other than if I pay attention to him then I'm going straight to hell.

I walk into a casino and after a while I walk out with my win goal in my pocket. How is that possible if like the good pastor says I will lose?

The sermons are long enough for the snake oil to rake effect.

PMS, get your Wikipedia and copy paste in order. Read your posts and try and make sure that they make sense.
 

scepticus

Re: Growing/Evolving as a Roulette Player.
« Reply #173 on: March 26, 2019, 12:33:15 AM »
Refrain,scepticus. refrain !
 

MrPerfect.

Re: Growing/Evolving as a Roulette Player.
« Reply #174 on: March 26, 2019, 01:13:16 AM »
Stratege,  what exactly is the subject you are posting about ? Im sure you yourself have no idea.
   It's time to post some examples,  without it you are just trolling.  Do not forget that for optimal progression it's nessesary to have a winning method first. 
   It's time to present your case. We are waiting .
Sample , explanation of the method, explanation of progression used and why this progression .... retest on following sample of spins...
   Time for you show off.
 
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thomasleor

Re: Growing/Evolving as a Roulette Player.
« Reply #175 on: March 26, 2019, 09:45:43 AM »
I am in this dynamic that you are describing, for good reason. I believe that those who say what to think, using brutality, would rather be MickyP, MrPerfect and mr J. Do you believe that my intervention to shake some beliefs in some personalities of this forum is not useful? It is curious that you analyze my messages but not those of MickyP and MrPerfect which are a chaos of unfounded beliefs, which are usually imposed or defended by vulgar words. So, I confront the violence of some members by showing them that they do not have a very high technical level.

Stratege,

I understand your point of view, and need, to "enlighten" this little crowd of specific "friedenstöhrers" (German. disturbers of peace) more than you think. I, myself, have been managing a community of avid roulette players for over 4 years now (VRTech) over at slack.com

After all those years, most of the old members are still present and when new ones joined, have done their best to make them feel welcome into the community where roulette in all its forms is discussed and entertained in a positive manner. We only had one bad apple joining us through the years and I took the extraordinary measure of just throwing him out

Kav had the misfortune of losing one of his best moderators, Reyth,  that contributed with much knowledge, wisdom and enthusiasm to this forum. The after-effect of his absence has not been good and it has basically contributed to the slow and painful demise of this forum. The entropy is subtle, but it is there allright. Kav shows no willingness, or intention, to participate actively, not only as a moderator, but also as one good mind with great experience in roulette and the willingness to share this actively, and not passively with some articles on his main web page. I am sure he has his reasons but that does not excuse inaction in the face of a tiny group of people who prefer their narcissistic impulses and needs overshadow the original intention of this forum - which is, and should be; discussion of the noble game of roulette from any, and all aspects.

I think you are a good poster, and I understand your "French" approach to the roulette subject from what I think are many years of study of old french mathematicians and other gamblers. However, I believe this forum, in its current state is not the right forum for your, shall we say, talents and knowledge. It might be in the future, but presently you are wasting your time because of the refusal of its founder to clean up his own house and initiate and maintain what I mentioned above. Here you will only find verbal abuse, and absence of any intellectual insight into the game of roulette.

Let me finish this literal ingress with following little saying;  Narcissists are a bad branch of humanity that always try to look good, and smart, on the expense of others, while good people with an intellectual acumen, and a generous spirit, try making people smarter and more in tune with their full potential.

Best of luck on your endeavours here, you are certainly going to need much of that.
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MrPerfect.

Re: Growing/Evolving as a Roulette Player.
« Reply #176 on: March 26, 2019, 09:57:21 PM »
Thomas,  was it a guy from Canada that you call " bad apple" ?
 

ignatus

Re: Growing/Evolving as a Roulette Player.
« Reply #177 on: March 26, 2019, 10:28:27 PM »
So? The trolls are gone?

My system has been posted now for 1 week, no reply. What happened with this forum? :S
 

MrPerfect.

Re: Growing/Evolving as a Roulette Player.
« Reply #178 on: March 26, 2019, 11:28:58 PM »
@Ignatus.  There is a chance that your system is very good. There are other chances as well. You doing good job inventing systems. Now it's probably a time to make extensive testing for them.  Make an asid test. Take very big sample , devide it in 2 parts. From first part formulate your system ... how many spins you wanna play, when you take money, how not to lose when you win ( keep profits), stop losses...ets.
   On second part test the system. If it looks good on very big sample with every spin as an entry to the game point... then you probaby found a winner system. Then keep it to yourself and do never post.
  Maybe few people already found systems they can live with,others just belive/ know that such system does not exist. .. or whatever reason. Do never take it personally.  It's a public forum full of people working for casinos, people trying to find validation for their " importance", system sellers and other creepy people ... few of them are unable to follow common logic or accept a truth and some do not understand English and use Google translate  ( or cretins). Real players are so few that you probably could number them with fingers of one hand.
    Ignatus,  keep searching and testing best you can. Find new ways of testing until you are at least 99% sure. And hopefully you will find it, super system you are looking for.
 
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MickyP

Re: Growing/Evolving as a Roulette Player.
« Reply #179 on: March 27, 2019, 12:37:44 AM »
Tommy boy , I see you are still poaching.
In your one post you are not very kind to PMS then in your following post you praise him and advertise your site. A man of very poor morals in my eyes.

I do agree that the forum was better run under the moderation of Reyth. Maybe Third can apply for the job (again).

PMS, in all your sermons you have demonstrated nothing. I could prove you wrong but I will not share what I have worked so hard to attain. My methods are not perfect but they are good enough for me to rely on them. I have reached my monthly goals continuously in spite of losses. I had a bad patch of two days of outright loss some time ago but I bounced back and made my target goal. As I said it's not perfect but it works for me.

Ignatus, you are a good system developer. I don't comment on your threads because your systems are designed for online play. MrPerfect has given you some very good advice.