### Author Topic: How do you overcome on randomness and the negative variance?  (Read 2578 times)

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#### MickyP

##### Re: How do you overcome on randomness and the negative variance?
« Reply #30 on: February 16, 2019, 06:51:08 PM »
Giajjenno, I have only respect for Palestis. Over the years he has helped me a great deal. The simple fact that he presents evidence of his word is reason enough to take him seriously. I have learnt much from the man.

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#### scepticus

##### Re: How do you overcome on randomness and the negative variance?
« Reply #31 on: February 16, 2019, 11:56:23 PM »
Ssepticus wheel DOES create patterns, outcomes, spins , u call em how u like , in this game involved physics, geometry,and maths as well I don't understand why u re so negative against me ?
Nope. Pete ,wheels do NOT create patterns -The Mind Of Man Does . The wheel only spews out random numbers and we make of them what we will  .  It is because you don't understand this that I don't think you have anything worthwhile so to charge for it is wrong .   People who buy them usually  NEED the extra money so should not be taken advantege of .

#### Third

##### Re: How do you overcome on randomness and the negative variance?
« Reply #32 on: February 17, 2019, 02:44:35 AM »
The Law of the Third is a pattern that results from the fact that all numbers have an equal chance of occurring, which happens to be a pattern as well.  Total random is some kind of quantum reality or something and roulette definitely isn't that.

Just sayin'.

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#### Third

##### Re: How do you overcome on randomness and the negative variance?
« Reply #33 on: February 17, 2019, 05:00:37 AM »
Wow!  You thought the last one was bad, check out this one!

LLLW4LLW4LLW4LW14

That's a TRIPLE LOSS followed by TWO (2) DOUBLE LOSSES!  The all time high debt was -843, again less than a third of the table bank:

Here is the progression:

1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
2 2 2 2 2 2
3 3 3
2 2 2 2 2 2
3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3
4 4 4 4 4
5
1 1 1 1 1 1 1
2 2 2 2 2 2
3 3 3 3
4 4 4
1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
2 2 2 2
4 4 4 4 4
5
2
5 5 5 5
6 6
7
8 8
9
10
11
12

3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3
4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4
5 5
4
5 5
4 4
5 5 5 5 5 5
7
4
2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2
3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3
4 4 4
3
4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4
4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4
3 3 3 3
4 4 4 4
5 5 5 5 5 5
6 6 6 6 6
4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4
5 5 5 5
4 4 4
5
4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4
3 3
4 4
3 3
4
3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3
2 2 2
3 3 3 3
2
3 3 3
2
3 3
2 2 2 2 2 2
3 3 3
2 2 2
3 3 3 3
4 4 4

Here is an example of when I pushed hard to close the session and...

...didn't quite make it (READ: I missed completely).  After that, things just were so mellow and the session just closed in peace.
« Last Edit: February 17, 2019, 06:00:11 AM by Third »

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#### petespin

##### Re: How do you overcome on randomness and the negative variance?
« Reply #34 on: February 17, 2019, 06:08:29 AM »
All things in life run on circles and u ll experienced with the same  events again and again , roulette wheel does exactly the same thing and this created by the randomness , outcomes are not infinite .

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#### petespin

##### Re: How do you overcome on randomness and the negative variance?
« Reply #35 on: February 17, 2019, 06:39:07 AM »
Btw and Becoz guys here asking a boy hints and clues a boy my method why don't look at vaddi s  hg to get an idea how roulette is exploitable .

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#### Third

##### Re: How do you overcome on randomness and the negative variance?
« Reply #36 on: February 17, 2019, 07:47:13 AM »
Why should we do that?  Why is Vaddi's method better than any other??

#### leowls

##### Re: How do you overcome on randomness and the negative variance?
« Reply #37 on: February 17, 2019, 07:50:01 AM »
Vaddi's method has proven to be a loser.

#### petespin

##### Re: How do you overcome on randomness and the negative variance?
« Reply #38 on: February 17, 2019, 07:51:30 AM »
I didn't say that is better than any other , but what he claims is in the right direction,work it out and u probably find out the road to hg  !

#### petespin

##### Re: How do you overcome on randomness and the negative variance?
« Reply #39 on: February 17, 2019, 07:53:45 AM »
How do u know that is looser when no one has the original method till now?

#### Stratege

##### Re: How do you overcome on randomness and the negative variance?
« Reply #40 on: February 17, 2019, 08:01:13 AM »

To add something to Third's message:

The "law of the third" is actually an approximation made by the players so it is not a law in the mathematical sense, because there is not exactly 1/3 numbers missing after a rotation of 37 spins. This is an "empirical finding", and many players are fascinated by this finding but in practice it remains a general "law". This law of the third generates a luck factor (on the straight-ups, splits, streets, DS) which makes it more likely for the beginning player that he beats the roulette wheel. This luck factor with the law of the third party helps to resist longer with a progression. ECs are less likely to generate this luck factor and a progression will more quickly collapse. So, players prefer inside betting, but losing bankroll today on EC, or tomorrow on D & C, is the same thing. The "Distribution Laws" in statistics only state great generalities so we cannot find a winning bet with great simplicity, as if by magic.
« Last Edit: February 17, 2019, 08:04:02 AM by Stratege »

#### Third

##### Re: How do you overcome on randomness and the negative variance?
« Reply #41 on: February 17, 2019, 08:07:55 AM »
Vaddi's method has proven to be a loser.

Really?  And what is Vaddi's method?

#### petespin

##### Re: How do you overcome on randomness and the negative variance?
« Reply #42 on: February 17, 2019, 08:15:31 AM »
Vaddi never reveal the full method , just say about some clues , there are guys claim that have the original method and sell it for big amounts like 5,000\$ ,I can't say for sure if they speak the truth! Btw search about in other forums for vaddis hg and u 'll get an idea about it !

#### GIAJJENNO

##### Re: How do you overcome on randomness and the negative variance?
« Reply #43 on: February 17, 2019, 08:41:41 AM »
Third,

This session was about playing EC bets, right? Third, I have one new aporoach about ECs, can we apply some PMs about that? Maybe you could find itinteresting.

#### Third

##### Re: How do you overcome on randomness and the negative variance?
« Reply #44 on: February 17, 2019, 09:44:53 AM »
Ok ya sorry.  I got more into my progression and examining it.  This thread has given me the motivation to look at my progression on all my difficult games.  I don't play the EC's because I want dynamic payout.  Talos says that we can use bet sizing to flow with negative variance; i.e. the structure of our progression.