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Stratege

Re: Double streets method
« Reply #75 on: February 19, 2019, 04:02:23 AM »
Giajjenno, I think Scepticus refers to the "median figure" between all roulette numbers. The total of numbers from 0 to 36 = 666 ;  and 666/37 = 18 (median figure). If a number comes in DS 6, the number that can assert the median value is in DS 1. This central value of 18 must be confirmed in time, but only in time.
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palestis

Re: Double streets method
« Reply #76 on: February 19, 2019, 04:58:41 AM »
@ Mako
Here is an example to show what I mean.
In the pic below, 10, 18, 17 are the first 3 numbers that repeated within 12 spins. Then 16, 13 and 33.
17 never showed up in the next 37 spins. Also 33 didn't either.
13 showed up in 2 spins, giving a profit of 34 units. Also 18 showed up in 22 spins giving a profit of 14 units.
16 showed up in 13 spins giving a profit of 23 units. TOTAL PROFIT 71 units.
 Even though 17 did not showed up it only lost 22 units. Because we stopped at 16 in which case the total profit was 71 units. we deduct 22 units lost with 17 and 21 units lost to 10. and 5 units lost to 33 (remember we stop at 16).
Lost units =48. NET PROFIT 71-48=23 units.

Had we continued we might've won more. or lost. But at least by stopping at 16 we lock the profit.
And 17, and 33 will not have the chance to lose 74 units in 37 spins. (10 won in the 33th spin).
The idea is to stop when we have a certain profit, and if there is a loss, to confine it to a very small recoverable amount.
In a simulated test based on continuity we will definitely end up betting many numbers, and that can mean trouble. Because it defeats the purpose of betting very few numbers.

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Joe

Re: New systen. Hot numbers.
« Reply #77 on: February 19, 2019, 09:07:36 AM »
I have been testing a new system lately and it looks very promising.
Very few numbers flat betting.
When a number repeats for the 2nd time within 12 spins, chances are it will become a hot number.
So I play it for 37 spins after  it repeats (within 12 spins).
You should check out the results of mr oops'  RECORD 'n' BET tests which he did years ago.

RECORD X spins, then SELECT Y numbers and BET for Z spins.

 For example, you record a sequence of 24 spins. Now select the numbers that won twice or more. Those numbers you bet for 36 spins.

There are many variations of this, out there, each having its own values for X, Y and Z. So, the question I had to answer, before testing, was: What values shall I use for X, Y and Z? Well, having no idea how to answer that question, I simply did them ALL! (More than 50 hours of continuous computer processing!) Recording is done from 6 to 40 spins and betting (flat betting only - one Unit/number bet) from 1 to 40 spins for all the recordings. newbielink:https://web.archive.org/web/20010128062800/http://www.xerxx.nu/oops/tester/recnbet1.html [nonactive]
Unfortunately none of the test results were positive.
 
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Sputnik

Re: Double streets method
« Reply #78 on: February 19, 2019, 12:30:54 PM »
 
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scepticus

Re: Double streets method
« Reply #79 on: February 19, 2019, 12:44:39 PM »
My personal style in actual play (and therefore in testing), is to STOP as soon as there is a profit, no matter how small the profit is. - Palestis

Seems   I am not the only one who believes that small profits add  up   ;D
 
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scepticus

Re: Double streets method
« Reply #80 on: February 19, 2019, 12:54:50 PM »
One ds can hit even 10 times in a row , u really can not predict the randomness but what if... build a bet selection plus it's money management and completely control the wins- losses ratio ? !  It's all about balance even with the randomness factor!
As anyone who accesses this forum can see there are many different ways to look at this problem . Some say that it is insoluble and that we are wasting our time.  As Gamblers , we think that it can be solved . At least we put our money where our mouths  are  -  our critics don't  !
 
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palestis

Re: New systen. Hot numbers.
« Reply #81 on: February 19, 2019, 05:09:17 PM »
You should check out the results of mr oops'  RECORD 'n' BET tests which he did years ago.

RECORD X spins, then SELECT Y numbers and BET for Z spins.

 For example, you record a sequence of 24 spins. Now select the numbers that won twice or more. Those numbers you bet for 36 spins.

Well, this is not the way this particular system is described. Very far from it.
First of all you don't select just any number that repeated TWICE OR MORE
(Y numbers),  in a certain amount of spins  (X spins),  and bet all those numbers for a specific Z amount of spins.
Because if done this way,  you stick with those numbers that repeated twice or more in a predetermined specific range  of spins for a long time.
Waiting for what ?
 To see if they showed up for the 4th and 5th and 6th time? This is not the aim of this particular system.
It clearly states that you pick a TWICE repeated number WITHIN a 12 SPINS RANGE (and has not appeared in the previous 12 spins since the first show), and play it fro UP TO 37 spins,
Therefore the X is a constantly changing variable between 2 and 12 spins for EACH NUMBER.
Not a specific X for all numbers that repeated as a group.
And the Y is a constantly changing variable because it's removed at any point within 37 spins
If it appears before the 37 spins for the 3rd time, (making a profit),  this number is abandoned.
It is also abandoned if it doesn't show up in 37 spins, therefore its maximum damage is 37 units.
There is no more betting on that number expecting it to win for the 3rd 4th 5th or more times.
The test  Mr. OOps describes, assumes a constant XYZ variable.
But in the system described, the XYZ variables are constantly changing.
The X varies because you don't know in how many spins (within a 12 spin range), a number will repeat for the 2nd time.
The Y varies because you never know how many numbers will repeat in a ROLLING 12 spins range,
And the Z varies from 1 to 37 spins because you never know when that number will show up (or not) for the 3rd and final time.

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Rinad

Re: Double streets method
« Reply #82 on: February 19, 2019, 07:00:45 PM »


    food for thought.

  no matter what system is used, stopping a session after a win WILL increased the amount of sessions won in the long run. because the game is about reaching a profit, THE ONLY way to insure leaving the casino with a profit is to lock in THAT PROFIT, period, and that is THE ONLY way to do it.
one can easily argue that it makes no difference since you are coming back next time and continue on playing where you left out and from a "common sens" point of view he would be right.
the longer i play the more I realize that common sens and logic is a million miles away from achieving good results.
could it be that this is the precise reason why so many players are losing ? the "follow the logic syndrome" ?

we reason techniques and systems from a common sens approche 99% of the time and maybe that is the very thing that keeps us not thinking out of the boxe.
example ;  we use terms like "losing"  or "winning"  and aply them to a system. once we stamp our result with losing, as a example, then we close the book on that particular venue.
I place 10 units on red and lost, so I said to myself "I just lost that 10 units", crap !!
but the reality is ; have you lost it really ?  what if you decided upon losing that 10 units that ,all of a sudden, you never were betting on red but were betting on 3 double streets instead ? would you still think that you lost?
no, you now are still playing the game and have another 5 shots at hitting all 3 of them and therefore not losing that ec on red, possibly win or brake even.
now you only can lose if you call it "quit"  and take the loss.
so this game is only won or loss as far as we chose to call it so.
one of the tools we have as player is the power to "strech our game in a lot of ways"
if I play a double street I am also playing 2 lines, 3 splits, and 6 straight numbers, what a difference that can make. I can play multi-games and play a infinite amount of spins if needed. I know now that "riding on many more spins for a low cost" can get me to my promissed land, my target. I can also change that target if needed.
maybe I was targeting a 6 number target at first for a hit, but because I had incorprated those 6 numbers in 6 lines and then hit my line bet early without hitting on my 6 numbers can just call it "quit" if i chose to do so.
or if I dont hit one of my 6 numbers within a cycle of 6 spins, can add 6 adjointed numbers to my original 6 numbers as if I now play 12 numbers. all of a sudden I am now hitting my new 6 numbers and not even my old 6 chosen numbers, but it does not matter, and it becomes additional wins, and then get rid of those newer numbers because i dont need them anymore.
okay, now that I gave everyone enough confusion I will stop, but you get the idea.
a 3 number bet can also metamorphoses itself into a different animal when we change our telescope.
we can now use one spin the wheel gives us and create 2,3,4  spins from it.

God bless,
Rinad
 
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Mako

Re: Double streets method
« Reply #83 on: February 19, 2019, 07:26:48 PM »
Palestis and Rinaldo, very nice write ups, thank you.
 
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