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Stratege

Re: Roulette is unbeatable - Are you able to beat
« Reply #60 on: February 10, 2019, 06:20:15 AM »

MrPerfect, personally, I answered this idea that a pattern would be more likely than another. Nothing has been demonstrated about this, so I said that "patterns all have the same probability" (this is the state of common knowledge). This is to encourage reflection and intelligent response from our members, but you, MrPerfect, want to fight the players' imagination and the evolution of their ideas. I'm not a pattern specialist, so you're not a specialist, so let the players get on with their ideas. Often, we search in one direction, but we find something else. This is essential, and all researchers know that, having experienced it. Avoid having a short-term vision, the human brain is designed to invent ideas, concepts. Even poorly educated people sometimes have very interesting ideas. For your reflection, the person who claims that others are wrong wants to say that she is right. You have to be a bit more adult and be more pedagogical.

Nevertheless, I know an author who said something very intelligent about a law that he discovered and that favors particular patterns (not in their form R and B but in their duration). So, your negative beliefs will never stop progress ! :o
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MrPerfect.

Re: Roulette is unbeatable - Are you able to beat
« Reply #61 on: February 10, 2019, 08:06:15 AM »
Stratege,  l do not speak what l THINK OR READ SOMEWHERE.  I speak roulette based on research that l did myself.
   So , before speaking " pedagogical ", make sure you know what you speak about.
  Or just keep your opinion based of someone else opinion formed from reading something. 
 
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Stratege

Re: Roulette is unbeatable - Are you able to beat
« Reply #62 on: February 10, 2019, 09:41:40 AM »

The whole problem comes from the categorical statements of some members.

MrPerfect, you do not admit any hypothesis of possible gain on the EC. You now assume that your personal research has verified everything about EC. Let's say you have your opinion based on your personal experience that is short at the scale of a single human. But compared to the collective experience, you are far from knowing everything. This essential collective experience is among the best authors who have also studied many methods, in short, they report a meta-knowledge. The field of roulette is a field of research. All researchers in a field study publications, and control certain facts. Never, they will deny the "hypotheses" if they have not realized an experiment that invalidates a hypothesis and the "provisional theory" (sometimes) that presents this hypothesis. The problem, according to your "postulate", is that the human does not reinvent all the knowledge in a field, you cannot then have a complete vision on a very vast and complex subject. It is a quality and an asset (for think) to say that we have studied authors who have a scientific mind.

In the end, you cannot conclude on a subject because you have failed. To digest this failure, you think that EC are made to win the casino. But all types of bets are made to win the casino. With only this idea, your opinion can no longer be absolute. I understand that few players have received scientific training for research, and few have studied authors (this is your difficulty). A researcher does not simply possess a stock of experimental techniques. He also adopts a researcher mentality to know how to analyze and interpret the facts, without being carried away by a personal failure.
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MickyP

Re: Roulette is unbeatable - Are you able to beat
« Reply #63 on: February 10, 2019, 10:57:59 AM »
Stratege, you are rather quick to judge others on this forum without looking at all the facts. This is a serious flaw and diminishes the value of your posts. Seems you also use words from psychology handbooks in an attempt to sound intelligent. Pedagogy for example is related to teaching and is a subject that student teachers take at university. as part of their degree.
I don't advise people to buy roulette books simply because of scams. The majority of roulette system books are trash. Forums like this one will educate players more about roulette than a purchased roulette system book. Players are able to network on a forum and in so doing they are able to use what they get here for free and incorporate it into their own research. BUT you say people are not qualified to conduct their own research.

No roulette player must take anything said or written by others as fact but they should strive to understand and put it to the test.
I do not force anyone to accept my word as fact. I actually insist they put it to the test.
Your word is not always correct. Just look at your understanding of the words "invent and discover".
MrPerfect, Mr J and I speak to each other as men. We call it like it is without the emotional dribble attached. You call us a triad yet the three of us all have different ways of playing roulette and different levels of education. We live different lives and read different books. What gives you the right to judge us as a common entity? We all speak our minds freely and independent of each other and if you do the research with a researchers mentality you may discover/invent this fact to be true.
 
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Stratege

Re: Roulette is unbeatable - Are you able to beat
« Reply #64 on: February 10, 2019, 01:56:36 PM »

The manipulator is a great donor of lessons, he thinks that his brutality is legitimate.

I am only opposed to aggressive words. It's not a failure to defend positive values. Regarding psychology, I use my knowledge wisely and do not need to open a manual. But it is true that I invent (or "discovered" since in my country these two verbs are synonymous) a method in this area (and many more). To show pedagogy is the weak point of your triad, that is why your remarks convey a brutality (problem of empathy). There are also good books on roulette that are not very expensive. But do not dream of finding a winning method against 50$. What is important is the theoretical and technical knowledge that is presented. I did not say that people were not qualified to conduct a search. I said, "I understand that few players have received scientific training for research, and few have studied authors". This is a fact that is found on all forums. Quasi-scientific research to find a method (find is synonymous here to invent!) Requires rigor.

In 2018, I tested 2 methods of a very good level (bought 75 € and 150 €). I spent about 200 hours and 300 hours of testing. It was very interesting. But I do not think that many players have the time, the computer skills, the ingenious methods, and the technical knowledge to improve results (essential things).

You say that you "do not force anyone to accept [your] word". Review in this discussion your message from yesterday. You stand, also quoting MrPerfect and Mr j, above the others. It will not hurt you to understand that other members do not need your infantilizing advice. It's you who have designated your triad, accept what you say. I do not judge you, I'm interested in the facts, and I criticize the aggressive processes of your triad. I have the technical skills on roulette and the psychological skills to counter you effectively, so I do it for the common good.
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MickyP

Re: Roulette is unbeatable - Are you able to beat
« Reply #65 on: February 10, 2019, 02:22:34 PM »
The truth can be brutal at times. Manipulated facts are not true facts. To Discover (not Invent) facts the right questions must be asked.

Syratege you do brag a lot for a person selling humbleness. Just saying...

Anyway, good luck in your quest to win the hearts and minds of others but manipulate them in a more humble manner. As for me and I only speak for myself (not your triad), I'm not buying crazy today and I'm sure as hell not buying tomorrow either.
 
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MrPerfect.

Re: Roulette is unbeatable - Are you able to beat
« Reply #66 on: February 10, 2019, 04:27:44 PM »
Stratege, lm just a simple professional player, my opinion based on my own research can be limited  ( 1.5 million spins tested) .... and it never was more easy to prove me wrong or open my eyes ... just show what the f. .ck you are posting about.
   Showing off was never more easy, just show the pattern of B & R that can predict B or R . That's all about it. Show how to make money with it.  Can you?
 
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Stratege

Re: Roulette is unbeatable - Are you able to beat
« Reply #67 on: February 10, 2019, 08:23:53 PM »

Mr. MickyP, where do you see me bragging ? I am not trying to seduce the members of this forum. I speak mainly of EC in flat betting. This does not interest players and members here or elsewhere. The players want the game, the action, play a lot of spins, play a progression, I have nothing to propose in this register, so I have my freedom and the others have theirs.

MrPrfect what does mean "f..ck" ?
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Bebediktus

Re: Roulette is unbeatable - Are you able to beat
« Reply #68 on: February 10, 2019, 08:49:23 PM »
Guys i see one simple way about which i think more and more - I want to make some web where one player want to play against other, where VB player can to play against system player. In mine opinion that must solve most. At least that will show which from two or more is better :)
You want such site ?
 

Re: Roulette is unbeatable - Are you able to beat
« Reply #69 on: February 10, 2019, 09:28:37 PM »
Guys i see one simple way about which i think more and more - I want to make some web where one player want to play against other, where VB player can to play against system player. In mine opinion that must solve most. At least that will show which from two or more is better :)
You want such site ?


No need really Bebedikus because IMO the people who can spot AP opportunities and profit are content and the people who can strategically place bets and profit (is there really much difference between the two) are also happy.
What that mostly leaves you with is a sorry excuse of whining, bitching misfits who it appears wouldn't really have the time for your idea because they prefer the 24/7 drama of ''he said, she said'', lol.
 
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scepticus

Re: Roulette is unbeatable - Are you able to beat
« Reply #70 on: February 10, 2019, 09:31:11 PM »
Guys i see one simple way about which i think more and more - I want to make some web where one player want to play against other, where VB player can to play against system player. In mine opinion that must solve most. At least that will show which from two or more is better :)
You want such site ?
If the site is genuine then I am willing to participate . Not to prove which is better but that system 
players can win . I will even use a 20 number bet -  AND a TRIGGER - AND a 40 chip Table Bank - AND a Target - to show Mr J that he is wrong to repreatedly  claim that these are USELESS.  Am I CERTAIN ? No.But then neither can AP-VB players .
 

scepticus

Re: Roulette is unbeatable - Are you able to beat
« Reply #71 on: February 11, 2019, 05:20:57 PM »
Guys i see one simple way about which i think more and more - I want to make some web where one player want to play against other, where VB player can to play against system player. In mine opinion that must solve most. At least that will show which from two or more is better :)
You want such site ?


No need really Bebedikus because IMO the people who can spot AP opportunities and profit are content and the people who can strategically place bets and profit (is there really much difference between the two) are also happy.
What that mostly leaves you with is a sorry excuse of whining, bitching misfits who it appears wouldn't really have the time for your idea because they prefer the 24/7 drama of ''he said, she said'', lol.
SAYING  and DOING are two different things. Anyone can BRAG about PROFITING IS EASY using mere words in a forum. BUT... CAN THEY ACTUALLY DO  IT FOR REAL.
Bebediktus is giving them the opportunity to show that they can  prove their claims.  I think their reluctance  to participate speaks volumes !
 

MrPerfect.

Re: Roulette is unbeatable - Are you able to beat
« Reply #72 on: February 13, 2019, 07:16:09 PM »
I'm listening this about simulator for a while now... would be nice to see when it's ready.
 

scepticus

Re: Roulette is unbeatable - Are you able to beat
« Reply #73 on: February 15, 2019, 03:21:00 PM »
I'm listening this about simulator for a while now... would be nice to see when it's ready.

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