Author Topic: "The Great Wall of China". Short story by Franz Kafka  (Read 2172 times)

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Dane

Re: "The Great Wall of China". Short story by Franz Kafka
« Reply #30 on: February 22, 2019, 09:28:55 AM »
 The new film GREEN BOOK takes us back to the early sixties and a USA still filled with racism.
 A "negro", as they said back then, was a great piano master, and he hired an Italian from another class. The moral of this story seems to be: Treat each other with respect. A great goal for all of us.

Decades ago in a meditation book I read about "FIGHT OR FLIGHT" reactions versus "STAY AND PLAY" (a scientifically validated meditation technique makes the mind & body experience a must relaxed state). Such united states have not yet reached certain leaders, and not all members here.
The technically gifted thomasleor is now seeking new test pilots. At first the shown video is about war, but of course it is not a real war. It should be mentioned that this member has acted as an amateur psychiatrist here ("You suffer from"). A nice cup of tea in Veda House in Stockholm might not be enough to elevate his consciousness and morals.

Back to The USSR, oh sorry, back to the USA:

I am not suggesting that Donald Trump is delusional now. But if he really wanted a great wall, maybe he ought to collect all the weapons in the USA. Together they could form a wall.

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MickyP

Re: "The Great Wall of China". Short story by Franz Kafka
« Reply #31 on: February 22, 2019, 06:19:41 PM »
Dane, firearms are not the problem, people are. Removing firearms doesn't solve the problem. If you did this then people would resort to using other types of weapons. I look at this from different points of view. Let's look at the rape culture spreading throughout the world. This is an attack on women because they are seen as the weaker sex and will offer little resistance to an attack. For self defense a firearm evens the playing field a little.
In SA legal firearm owners are being disarmed, When applying for a firearm licence self defense is not accepted as a valid reason. The majority of firearm related crimes are perpetrated with illegal firearms.
 

mr j

Re: "The Great Wall of China". Short story by Franz Kafka
« Reply #32 on: February 23, 2019, 01:18:00 AM »
and you would never get the bad guys to turn in their guns. Outlaws, gang members etc.
 
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Dane

Re: "The Great Wall of China". Short story by Franz Kafka
« Reply #33 on: February 23, 2019, 08:57:16 AM »
and you would never get a certain bragging "good guy" to turn in, turn on, drop out and away from  The 2nd Amendment & the powerful weapon industry. Have you ever compared crime rates in Canada to your crime rates? Canadians might not be better than you, but their access to weapons is more restricted, I believe.
 

MickyP

Re: "The Great Wall of China". Short story by Franz Kafka
« Reply #34 on: February 23, 2019, 09:38:21 AM »
Canada unlike my country has an effective police force that can relied upon. In general Canadian citizens respect and abide by the laws of the country; not so in my country. There is just no way you can compare Canada to South Africa.
Where have you seen Police stations being held up and all firearms stolen? An emergency call to the police may result in several hours of waiting if they respond at all.There is political tension and daily unrest in the country that can not be brought under control. Unrest (protest action) always results in destruction in some way or another. Innocent people get caught up in these protests. But South Africa is a unique case in the world.
The United States has had the second amendment as part of their constitution for a very long time and because some liberals want to score political points it is now raised as a deep concern for the safety of citizens. What is the function of the US government? Is it to protect the rights and liberties of US citizens or to deprive citizens of their rights and control them as is the case in socialist countries.
There is "gun control" in the US and it's simple; you screw up and you forfeit your right to own and carry a firearm.
The lack of legal access to weapons places many law abiding citizens in danger as they become "soft targets".
I agree with the right to protect yourself (self defense) and this means having legal access to the same weapons that will possibly be used against you in a crime however motivated.

There are no winners in a discussion like this but restricting peoples freedom and their right to a peaceful existence is not the answer. 
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Dane

Re: "The Great Wall of China". Short story by Franz Kafka
« Reply #35 on: February 23, 2019, 11:33:20 AM »
There might just be no way you can compare Canada to South Africa. How about comparing Canada to the USA? If my memory serves me well, such comparisons were made decades ago. As far as I remember, cities having much in common were compared to each other. One of the few things they did not have in common: Easy access to weapons - and crime rates.

Of course a certain bragging "good guy" can label common decency, reason and sound conclusions from scientists as "FAKE NEWS". According to him man made climate changes might just be fake news too. It is difficult to reason with such a person hiding himself from what most people consider to be Reality. Behind walls of illusions, almost delusional. Then Again: The pollution out there may reflect the pollution within. 

 

MickyP

Re: "The Great Wall of China". Short story by Franz Kafka
« Reply #36 on: February 23, 2019, 12:15:37 PM »
I think this "bragging good guy" has valid points. Maybe he is a realist who sees through media bias and understands how dangerous the road is that the left are leading the masses down.
I'll take my chances with this bragging good guy, thank you.
 

Scarface

Re: "The Great Wall of China". Short story by Franz Kafka
« Reply #37 on: February 23, 2019, 12:25:53 PM »
First, Trump is really not that great of a dealmaker.  1 year ago, Trump asked Congress to come up with a border security deal.  While Congress was debating, Trump was asked several times by reporters would he support permanent protections for dreamers...Trump always responded that he would, as long as the bill also included funding for his wall.  Congress did their job, and delivered a $25 billion border security bill, supported by both parties.  Trump rejected it for no apparent reason, even though it included full funding for his wall. 
 
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MickyP

Re: "The Great Wall of China". Short story by Franz Kafka
« Reply #38 on: February 23, 2019, 01:05:03 PM »
Please share details Scarface because what you just posted sounds like a CNN report and we all know what that is.....Fake News!

Just think logically, if the funds were approved a year ago how much was for the actual wall? Why did he have to start fighting for a fifth of already approved funds to build the wall?
 

scepticus

Re: "The Great Wall of China". Short story by Franz Kafka
« Reply #39 on: February 23, 2019, 02:57:02 PM »
Policemen in the  USA carry guns. Policemen in the UK don't  yet more policemen in the USA are killed by guns than UK policemen . Why ?  Mainly  because  they don't get the chance to draw their guns.
People ARE the problem but easier access to guns  exacerbates the problem . The statistics seem to show this .
 
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Rinad

Re: "The Great Wall of China". Short story by Franz Kafka
« Reply #40 on: February 23, 2019, 06:18:35 PM »


    for those who allready beleive, no proof will ever be enough guys,

and for those who dont believe ,no proof will ever be sufficient. this truth should be enough to show how that blind trumpeters will stay blind no matter what.
like a man who gets caught in a bed with his mistress from a wife walking in, and tells her ;

    but honey, we are just friends !!! nothing else !  believe me, I love you.

    Rinad
 

MickyP

Re: "The Great Wall of China". Short story by Franz Kafka
« Reply #41 on: February 23, 2019, 07:11:15 PM »
There are armed police units in the UK. Here again you have a very efficient and effective police force. Serious crime is escalating in the UK and across Europe.
You have to look at countries on an individual basis. Each has its own set of issues to deal with.
This gun control issue appears to target President Trump and as usual the disrespect is embedded in some posts. President Trump is wise to keep the 2nd amendment intact. It is not his law, it is a law that he inherited as part of the constitution. His job is to defend the rights of US citizens as prescribed by the constitution. His job is to ensure the security of US citizens and that is why the wall is necessary. He is doing a sterling job.
 

scepticus

Re: "The Great Wall of China". Short story by Franz Kafka
« Reply #42 on: February 23, 2019, 08:51:53 PM »
Micky
There is a big difference between  all police being armed and particular police being armed to combat terrorism.
The statistics for the use of weapons in the UK has not gone up .In 2018 they were pretty stable .
The Constitution of the USA was written MANY years ago when things were unstable. 

It is not about Trump's view on this . This debate has been going on for years .
btwIt is not a Wall -  it is a fence and the American taxpayers are paying for it .
 

MickyP

Re: "The Great Wall of China". Short story by Franz Kafka
« Reply #43 on: February 24, 2019, 01:37:47 AM »
https://youtu.be/a4ei2Zy1Qes

No country is immune from the illegal firearm trade. Things will only get worse in the UK.
 

Scarface

Re: "The Great Wall of China". Short story by Franz Kafka
« Reply #44 on: February 24, 2019, 03:26:50 AM »
Please share details Scarface because what you just posted sounds like a CNN report and we all know what that is.....Fake News!

Just think logically, if the funds were approved a year ago how much was for the actual wall? Why did he have to start fighting for a fifth of already approved funds to build the wall?

MickeyP this is true.  Last year, when Republicans controlled the House and Senate, there was bipartisan support for a $25 billion border security deal.  It covered everything...including $8 billion for the wall.  Google it if you're not familiar.  Congress did there job.  But then as the Senate was about to vote, Trump decided he didn't support it.

Now here's the real question:  why would Trump not support this, after he already said he would?  Then he tries to blame Democrats when he's the one that walked away