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mr j

Re: HG found
« Reply #15 on: January 08, 2019, 06:25:07 PM »
Only one huge requirement from me >> is it playable under all B&M casino conditions?

Ken (PS >> get ready for the PMs coming your way MrPerfect, lol)
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mr j

Re: HG found
« Reply #16 on: January 08, 2019, 06:25:58 PM »
Just wondering. .. what would happen if l actually posted a system that gives at least 1 unit per spin on average and survive 1 million of spins? It's not based solely on numbers, there is minimum physics involved, but still...
   It's not holy ...  :). And l will never post it, unless on my book, 50 years from now.

BUMP
 

Third

Re: HG found
« Reply #17 on: January 08, 2019, 09:33:38 PM »
I believe Dr. Talos has an actual HG and has discovered a hidden method of keeping his bets very low in combination with a general bet selection that fosters the lower expenditures.  I have not discovered the more secret part of his method and so even though his method wins for me, it is not a HG.  Any system that has a reasonably expected losing sequence (final loss) is not a HG.
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MrPerfect.

Re: HG found
« Reply #18 on: January 08, 2019, 10:22:28 PM »
Only one huge requirement from me >> is it playable under all B&M casino conditions?

Ken (PS >> get ready for the PMs coming your way MrPerfect, lol)
It is playable. I used to play like that before l made roulette computer of my own.
    This system is not for shearing or posting . I did show it in the past for 2 people... but it's way too simple to  be understood,  l think...
   No point to pm about it, l often do not mind to share something made by others, but my own... it's all other story.
 
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mr j

Re: HG found
« Reply #19 on: January 09, 2019, 12:42:00 AM »
"This system is not for sharing or posting" >> I agree with you 100%.
 
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Third

Re: HG found
« Reply #20 on: January 09, 2019, 01:29:08 AM »
What's your main reason Mr. J?  I mean I have my own understanding as to why I would agree but I am wondering what you think too?
 

mr j

Re: HG found
« Reply #21 on: January 09, 2019, 03:05:41 AM »
What's your main reason Mr. J?  I mean I have my own understanding as to why I would agree but I am wondering what you think too?

A couple reasons. For starters, I dont feel HG's (by my definition) even exist so actually talking about it is beneath me. He probably does NOT have a HG, nor do I and nor will I ever. A method does great, so what?

Why wouldn't I post it? Has NOTHING to do with the casinos changing their rules (rofl). That'll never happen. *MY* main reason for not posting is simple,,,,,, why should I give my nay sayers over the years (the Ken haters) a free fu***n lunch?? Thats my big reason.
 
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dklee100

Re: HG found
« Reply #22 on: January 12, 2019, 09:39:51 PM »
£1000 bank role to  win £1
HG there I'm banned then 😇
 

GIAJJENNO

Re: HG found
« Reply #23 on: January 12, 2019, 09:50:12 PM »
£1000 bank role to  win £1
HG there I'm banned then 😇

Its ok to win 1, but not a daily 1x. Rather a daily 100x. If you can do it for example to 5x your bankroll losing once, its HG for you.
 

dklee100

Re: HG found
« Reply #24 on: January 12, 2019, 10:02:59 PM »
Define the HG.
£1 per day I'm happy I'm a winner.
I'd risk £1000 to do that.
How can you lose. Scaled up my pension is £70 per week ten a day.
£10000 risked to get £10 x 7 days can I lose ?
I'm no maths guru but you could employ good system out there and still not be defeated. Surely??
 

GIAJJENNO

Re: HG found
« Reply #25 on: January 12, 2019, 10:09:44 PM »
No its not surey you csn lose 10000 just to win 1. You must fight for every penny
 

dklee100

Re: HG found
« Reply #26 on: January 12, 2019, 10:27:03 PM »
I agree.
But each to there own. If I won £10000 I'd risk that for £10 profit each day that's more interest than in a bank and prob less risk🤣🤣🤣
 

Jake007

Re: HG found
« Reply #27 on: April 24, 2019, 09:43:30 PM »
If you read Rimskys post on what he discovered... its not a true HG. And Ive been saying this all along really. The only true HG in my opinion is simply a martingale with no limits. Of course thats not allowed. But its an HG in the fact that it wins with no serious downside.

Personally I just dont think there is a true HG besides what Ive mentioned. Roulette is too perfect to allow that. It would have been discovered long ago.

For me an HG is a winning system. Something that wins more than it loses and those winnings cover the losses. If someone says they win 90% of the time, does that +9u profit cover the one loss? Simple math. Simple to understand. All you have to do is find something that works for you that can show profit. 99 wins out of 100? Okay do those 99 wins cover the 1 (probably substantial) loss?
 

palestis

Re: HG found
« Reply #28 on: April 25, 2019, 12:52:45 AM »
The table limits is not  the problem with Martingale.
It is the player's money limits.
15 EC martingales starting with $10 will require almost $330,000. 
Who can afford to risk that kind of money to gain $10?
And if it continues to 25 losing EC's, I don't think even Bill Gates can handle this martingale.
Sure 99% wins vs. 1% losing times sounds great. But most of the time that 1% is greater in amount than the 99% of small wins put together.
As per the example above, it would take 33,000 consecutive wins @  $10 each, to recover a single 15 steps martingale loss.
There is no  system that can claim it is the HG, if it's based on a single trigger alone and relying on long progression steps.
The secret is to find out the limit of the number of triggers that can lose back to back.
One time horror sequences happen all the time.
But do they happen consecutively trigger after trigger? And what's the maximum numbers of times that they can happen for?
That's something the system designer has to look for and find out thru extensive testing.
You may find out that a system winning 80% of the time can be more effective than a system winning 99% of the time if it's based on a one at as time trigger with long progression steps.
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Jesper

Re: HG found
« Reply #29 on: June 27, 2019, 03:18:40 PM »
Just forget HG, it is imossible! You can win a lot, with any method, if you are lucky. The ball falls in the number you bet, then you win, not by WooDoo.