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Greek

Re: B and M Live Play
« Reply #15 on: January 03, 2019, 11:59:13 PM »
TheGenner,
It has nothing to do with Jack Kennedy's positional roulette. It's knowing randomness is not random, rather predictable. It's about humans and their need to find some sense of organization. Once they do that, they realize it does not work. As a result, it is the de-organization that holds the key to understanding randomness and it's predictability.
It's like, not to decide is to decide. 
 

gizmotron

Re: B and M Live Play
« Reply #16 on: January 04, 2019, 12:39:11 AM »
My suspicions are spot on. There is no one here who has a strategy that can profit from live play in a B and M, betting every spin, flat bet only, 50 spins minimum.

If anyone know of such a person, please, I would like to know.

Gads you guys. It's simple. You buy in as a color with $5 valued chips, $100 to a stack. You play at a $5 minimum inside or outside table. I bet $5 on each of my 18 numbers, flat betting ($90). When I want a virtual bet, I place a single $5 bet on Red or Black. It keeps the dealers and the pit bosses happy. It just screws up the comp tracking. Who cares. One $90 bet pays more comp than all day getting tracked correctly.If I were to lose every outside, $5, bet it would take 18 lost virtual bets to equal one $90 bet. So I get to keep my seat. I get to chart virtual bet selections, and I get to flat bet at my $90 rate when I want to. This is basic 101 gambling guys.
 
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gizmotron

Re: B and M Live Play
« Reply #17 on: January 04, 2019, 12:58:26 AM »
TheGenner,
It has nothing to do with Jack Kennedy's positional roulette. It's knowing randomness is not random, rather predictable. It's about humans and their need to find some sense of organization. Once they do that, they realize it does not work. As a result, it is the de-organization that holds the key to understanding randomness and it's predictability.
It's like, not to decide is to decide.

Yes, you get it. The opposite of stupid is obviously brilliance. All one needs to know is that randomness is not random. Wonderful observation. I hope the NFL does not get a hold of this wisdom for their coin flips.
 
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Greek

Re: B and M Live Play
« Reply #18 on: January 04, 2019, 01:00:35 AM »
Rookie play 101

EC and 18 numbers are for plebes. I knew you could not play anything without virtual play.
 

gizmotron

Re: B and M Live Play
« Reply #19 on: January 04, 2019, 01:14:56 AM »
So says you spandex boy.
 
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Greek

Re: B and M Live Play
« Reply #20 on: January 04, 2019, 01:21:41 AM »
Like I said, all you do is resort to name calling. Grow up for God's sake. Your'e old enough to have a heart attack.
 

scepticus

Re: B and M Live Play
« Reply #21 on: January 04, 2019, 02:20:04 AM »
  If I may intrude for a minute .
Why do some think that the wheel does not give random numbers  ?
Greek
Why a minimum of 50 spins at a table ? Surely just an arbitrary figure ?I play Flat Bets and aim to win a certain amount before quitting. I seldom t go above 36 spins and I  can Flat Bet every spin with one of my methods .

I think it is clear that there are many different ways to be roulette   

 PERHAPS EVERY ONE MENTIONED IN THIS FORUM  ?   ;D
 
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Greek

Re: B and M Live Play
« Reply #22 on: January 04, 2019, 05:09:08 AM »
  If I may intrude for a minute .
Why do some think that the wheel does not give random numbers  ?
Greek
Why a minimum of 50 spins at a table ? Surely just an arbitrary figure ?I play Flat Bets and aim to win a certain amount before quitting. I seldom t go above 36 spins and I  can Flat Bet every spin with one of my methods .

I think it is clear that there are many different ways to be roulette   

 PERHAPS EVERY ONE MENTIONED IN THIS FORUM  ?   ;D
Some think that the wheel does not give random numbers because the numbers are fixed on the wheel, as opposed to RNG.

Most players cannot win flat betting in 50 spins. Sure, a target amount can be achieved before 50 spins, in some cases, the first spin. Target win and target loss set aside, not very many players can sustain a win after 50 spins.

There a many ways to beat roulette. I bet every member here can make that claim. But, the B and M players are a special breed, trench warfare.
 
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MrPerfect.

Re: B and M Live Play
« Reply #23 on: January 04, 2019, 08:23:46 AM »
Why they are so special? Just because they in 99.9% of their population are there to help casino pay the light?
 
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Third

Re: B and M Live Play
« Reply #24 on: January 04, 2019, 09:25:38 AM »
To me they seem special but my opinion doesn't count!  :o
 

Greek

Re: B and M Live Play
« Reply #25 on: January 04, 2019, 05:33:46 PM »
Why they are so special? Just because they in 99.9% of their population are there to help casino pay the light?

Why B and M players are special? B and M players (BMP) are special because they have an advantage over online players (OLP). Without detailing the obvious, BMP are subjected to the live environment. OLP cannot use the tools they have in a live situation. BMP do not have an issue playing online because they do not need the tools that OLP depend on.

Much like people who know how to drive a manual standard stick shift vehicle, they have an advantage over the people who only know how to drive an automatic vehicle.

 
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MickyP

Re: B and M Live Play
« Reply #26 on: January 04, 2019, 06:24:21 PM »
Thanks Greek; I find it hard to relate to many of the threads on the forum because they are based on "computer" RNG gaming and I am only a B/M player, nothing else.

The topic of B/M vs RNG computer based gaming has been discussed on the forum in many threads but no conclusion has ever been accepted as a standard rule of play.

I will start a thread and in my opening post will state that it is only for B/M tables but a few posts down the line players display their excitement about how well it performs on RNG computer gaming (in test mode) What players don't understand is that "Test Mode" or "Fun Mode" on RNG is designed to make whatever bets are placed to win thus luring in the player to play for real money. You will win a few spins but then the losing starts until you have depleted your bankroll. Sound familiar guys?

If you want to play and win with roulette your first rule should be to only play B/M tables.

Second rule is to record your games; numbers, direction of spin, drop off points and any other DATA you feel will help you better evaluate your game. Even jot down key words to help you remember why you made the bet selection you did for the next spin. You can NOT evaluate your game simply by recording what number fell. You NEED more information to justify your play and to LEARN how to play better. Make a note of croupier change and note the player total at your table. All this info if not helpful at that setting will become EXTREMELY helpful to you as you strive to perfect your method of play.

We rely too much on B/M recorded spin history on sites. Use your own spin history data to test and evaluate your methods. MrPerfect has on many occasions stressed the importance of collecting data (not just spun numbers).

Use the lessons posted on this forum wisely.
 

MrPerfect.

Re: B and M Live Play
« Reply #27 on: January 04, 2019, 06:38:45 PM »
Why they are so special? Just because they in 99.9% of their population are there to help casino pay the light?

Why B and M players are special? B and M players (BMP) are special because they have an advantage over online players (OLP). Without detailing the obvious, BMP are subjected to the live environment. OLP cannot use the tools they have in a live situation. BMP do not have an issue playing online because they do not need the tools that OLP depend on.

Much like people who know how to drive a manual standard stick shift vehicle, they have an advantage over the people who only know how to drive an automatic vehicle.
only advantage that matters is advantage player may have over casino. No need point finger and say this player is better then other... online or b&m ,it's all the same. There are b&m players playing slots, in fact majority of them do...
   On other hand, online player who can win, will win in b&m, but it's not so straight forward for a player who can win b&m.... so no need to jump into conclusions , especially if you can not make reliable comparison .
 

MickyP

Re: B and M Live Play
« Reply #28 on: January 04, 2019, 07:12:49 PM »
Point taken MrPerfect. I appreciate your insight, however, you create a clear distinction between RNG and B/M players. I also appreciate your agreement that there is a fundamental difference between the two.

What I advocate in my post is as a B/M player to be aware of "free info" that will do little to help you as a player but simply fuel your fallacies. Also that players are selective and LAZY when it comes to using info (data) to test and perfect a method.

I learnt these things from you and I must say that I can see improvements in my VB bets.

PS: I know you were responding to Greek but because I supported what he said I felt I should respond to clarify my position against your reply to him.
« Last Edit: January 04, 2019, 07:19:02 PM by MickyP »
 

scepticus

Re: B and M Live Play
« Reply #29 on: January 04, 2019, 08:04:14 PM »
Greek
I did not  ask my questions to argue- only to ask WHY you think as you do.
I think  in a B&M csino  the wheels give RANDOM NUMBERS . You seemed to disagree .I was asking why  you think so.
You suggested that no one could win Flat Betting over 50 spins. I ACTUALLY have - more than once- so I disagree.
I have offered  to bet in a B&M table if Mr Perfect and MIke would do the same. They chose not to - because "they had better things to do " . It is easy to claim  that you can win in a forum -and even claim that you  make a living at it . Boasting and Doing can be two different things .

 
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