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MickyP

Re: Results for Scepticus 9 Block theory for Dozens
« Reply #30 on: December 30, 2018, 05:48:20 PM »
Scepticus had published his favorite 9 Block theory, I understand the approach from here: https://www.roulettelife.com/index.php?topic=263.msg4377#msg4377. He put it with detailed explanation here: https://www.roulettelife.com/index.php?topic=263.0 
  I am fan of methods on dozens, although I never played the dozen method that Scepticus described here on B&M table, I wanted to write code to test it for two reasons- one, to check how it performs and two, author is strong believer of these methods.
 
  I tested two input files(with initial BR of 1000 units), results are not that bad:
 
  first file produced:
                             NEW HIGH BALANCE OVERALL: 1293
                             ALL TIME LOW BALANCE: 991   
  second file produced:
                            NEW HIGH BALANCE OVERALL: 1057
                            ALL TIME LOW BALANCE: 859
                 
   fileplay is attached for your reference with sample input files.
   
   @Scepticus: please let me know if I have understood your approach as you wrote. I can correct the code if you think I did not get it!! or if the output files have bugs.
                             


I thought the final tally would be after about 50 or 100 spins or so but I opened the attached files in the first post and saw that the first test was conducted with 1000 spins and the second; well, see for yourself...


GAME END AFTER 3981 SPINs with BELOW SUMMARY------------------------------            NEW HIGH BALANCE OVERALL: 1057                           
ALL TIME LOW BALANCE: 859

Almost 4000 spins to have a plus of 57 units. Based on these two tests I say the system is a waste of time in a B/M casino.

200 spins a day in a B/M casino is about normal.

What do these tests actually tell us?
« Last Edit: December 30, 2018, 05:52:07 PM by MickyP »
 

solaris

Re: Results for Scepticus 9 Block theory for Dozens
« Reply #31 on: December 30, 2018, 07:50:16 PM »
I did test for several spins, purpose was to check whether BR will be down to 0 after long term use of this method.
« Last Edit: December 30, 2018, 08:02:54 PM by solaris »
 
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scepticus

Re: Results for Scepticus 9 Block theory for Dozens
« Reply #32 on: December 30, 2018, 09:25:45 PM »
Almost 4000 spins to have a plus of 57 units. Based on these two tests I say the system is a waste of time in a B/M casino. 200 spins a day in a B/M casino is about normal.       Says  the man with too much time on his hands
.Quite good for recreational players who play for fun and a little profit.   What the tests tell us is that sometimes results will be better ,sometimes  worse  and that many other ideas tested have failed .  Micky P    Why don't you  put forward your A game  for testing ? Because  you don't have one ?" The test also demolishes your oft repeated cheap jibe that " no one understands it "My thread now has had 125.000 views so hopefully  some have  realised that  we can use maths to give us a reasonable chance of showing a profit and that ACTUAL results  are what counts and that  unsupported boasts in a forum are just that  -   unsupported .
 
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MickyP

Re: Results for Scepticus 9 Block theory for Dozens
« Reply #33 on: December 31, 2018, 08:07:38 AM »
Scepticus, firstly, congratulations on finally getting someone to test your system. The results are both encouraging and discouraging, Encouraging because with this sequence of spins the bankroll survived and displayed a small profit. Will it always survive? I say No because it is a mechanical system and will yield to negative variance. Discouraging because although the system did not crash (this time) the parameters of the test do not reflect true B/M conditions and limitations. For a recreational player it may be fine to sit and waste time (a valuable resource) at a B/M table but not for a serious player.

I feel the majority of players play to win and they want to win BIG in as short a time as possible. For the few of us that play for a living it will be pointless playing your system even if we use large denomination chips. For the one chip a day challenge it may work but I remain a skeptic at best.

I will not go on and insult you and I will not attempt to belittle you so I will avoid commenting on your thread and as far as your systems are concerned I see no gravy at all.

You would like me to put forward my A game and if I don't want to share then you say I don't have an A game. I DON'T CARE. I really don't care about your opinions.
I have shared enough basics on this forum for any player to take and create methods that suit their play style that will allow them to make a living from the game.

I have spent many years trying, testing, experimenting and losing with some wins in between to get to the point where I was finally able to begin making real money from the game. I have shared snippets from my journey but my destination is mine and only mine.
In short - I will not share what puts food on my table.
 
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GIAJJENNO

Re: Results for Scepticus 9 Block theory for Dozens
« Reply #34 on: December 31, 2018, 12:25:32 PM »
Congratulations Micky to finding your way to the consinstently winning, and living from roulette. We spoke a lot via email anno, and I know you worked hard to find your way, and you had very much experience.

Unflrtunately I no found my winning way yet. Others can call me a rookie, I dont care what they say, bit years be years I have more experience. I am quiet young man, only 23 years old, but I tried so many systems, strategy, I created 3 of them, but neither of them was long therm winner.

I feel, that a little bit I lost my faith, because I dont know what would be the best to shoot im rouelte. Repeaters, and low numbers, cycling sesions, table triggers, finding some trands, etc etc so many opportunities and I feel I am not moving forward.

 I am honest here. Hope 2019 will be better, but my motivation is very low, I felt so many time that jesus, this will make me along thermprofit, than in few days later killed the whole bankroll.

Now I feel that my consistently winning way is far away from me, if I have at all.

Happy New Year For Everyone guys, and keep faith, work, and I wish winnings for You.

Cheers

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MickyP

Re: Results for Scepticus 9 Block theory for Dozens
« Reply #35 on: December 31, 2018, 12:46:36 PM »
Thanks Gia, I do have my off days believe me. It's not always win win win. My Roulette Business plan allows me to lose at a certain rate and that's when my surplus wins come to the rescue.

Rimsky is a guy I've been following and I really get excited for his zest for the game. You started a thread on :Trends" with an "e" and this is all about what the wheel produces so don't get discouraged; follow that pattern of thought and speak to players who benefit from "reading the wheel".

I wish you all the best for the new year, God Bless!
 
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scepticus

Re: Results for Scepticus 9 Block theory for Dozens
« Reply #36 on: December 31, 2018, 02:30:56 PM »
I feel the majority of players play to win and they want to win BIG in as short a time as possible. For the few of us that play for a living it will be pointless playing your system even if we use large denomination chips. For the one chip a day challenge it may work but I remain a skeptic at best.

says the man with too much time on his hands

The desire to win BIG is what keeps the casinos in business.
You have given no evidence that you  make a living from roulette . Except words - and Boy don't you have plenty of them .

you have no consistency in your   posts -Hot numbers- Cold Numbers - Repeats - the Wheel -  and your knowledge of he maths of roulette is clearly flawed .
1 in 37 is not the basic calcuation in roulette ? Because there  may be 2,3 or more zeros in 37 spins is your idea .  ;D
The problem with forums is that they  allow attention seekers like yourself to spout   claims which may or may not be truthfull. On a Probability rating  of 1 to 10 I give you a 1- and that is only becuse I feel generous today !

I use the 9 block as a BASIS for my methods and  recommend others to do so.
 

Third

Re: Results for Scepticus 9 Block theory for Dozens
« Reply #37 on: December 31, 2018, 02:48:45 PM »
I feel, that a little bit I lost my faith, because I dont know what would be the best

My best advice is that our bet selection is not the most important thing because roulette will always find a way around the best bet selection that we can come up with.  Like many have said before me, our system design needs to be built around the best way to recover from our losses.
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GIAJJENNO

Re: Results for Scepticus 9 Block theory for Dozens
« Reply #38 on: December 31, 2018, 03:00:20 PM »
I feel, that a little bit I lost my faith, because I dont know what would be the best

My best advice is that our bet selection is not the most important thing because roulette will always find a way around the best bet selection that we can come up with.  Like many have said before me, our system design needs to be built around the best way to recover from our losses.

I think that if you found the best aay to recover, the main system will be unneccessary, just play the recovery system  :D
 

MickyP

Re: Results for Scepticus 9 Block theory for Dozens
« Reply #39 on: December 31, 2018, 03:44:20 PM »
I feel the majority of players play to win and they want to win BIG in as short a time as possible. For the few of us that play for a living it will be pointless playing your system even if we use large denomination chips. For the one chip a day challenge it may work but I remain a skeptic at best.

says the man with too much time on his hands

The desire to win BIG is what keeps the casinos in business.
You have given no evidence that you  make a living from roulette . Except words - and Boy don't you have plenty of them .

you have no consistency in your   posts -Hot numbers- Cold Numbers - Repeats - the Wheel -  and your knowledge of he maths of roulette is clearly flawed .
1 in 37 is not the basic calcuation in roulette ? Because there  may be 2,3 or more zeros in 37 spins is your idea .  ;D
The problem with forums is that they  allow attention seekers like yourself to spout   claims which may or may not be truthfull. On a Probability rating  of 1 to 10 I give you a 1- and that is only becuse I feel generous today !

I use the 9 block as a BASIS for my methods and  recommend others to do so.

So says the recreational player who backed out of a challenge. So says the recreational player that waited for over 100 000 posts for someone to present the first test of his system. So says the recreational player who fought tooth and nail against Mike a mathematician and Real a wheel Pro, not forgetting MrPerfect our local AP pro.
You are either STUPID or just convinced that the zero has no impact on the game.

The consistency I have is research and study. I do wave like a flag at times but that is where my study leads me. I used to count the spokes on bicycle wheels (lol) but now I count your dumb ass posts and wow! I am getting hit upon hit like you can't believe...RoFL  :-*
 

scepticus

Re: Results for Scepticus 9 Block theory for Dozens
« Reply #40 on: December 31, 2018, 04:24:24 PM »
So says the recreational player who backed out of a challenge. So says the recreational player that waited for over 100 000 posts for someone to present the first test of his system. So says the recreational player who fought tooth and nail against Mike a mathematician and Real a wheel Pro, not forgetting MrPerfect our local AP pro.
You are either STUPID or just convinced that the zero has no impact on the game.
so say the man with too mjuch time on his hands .
Idid not ASK someone to test the method .Just to use it. No one can test your "winning " method because you don't have one worth testing. If you have one  post it.

I did not accept Mr Ps  " challenge "  because -as i think he himself will admit- there was no VALUE for either party.Your ignorance does not allow you to see that.
The Expectancy chart shows that Mike was wrong and I was right. There cannot be a 100% chance of success or failure  where Uncertainty pertains. His claim that he can Predict  " UNPREDICTABILITY " is nonsense because if the unpredictable can be predicted then it  clearly cannot  be "unpredictable ". But you are too stupid to realise that .
There is no evidence that Mr P is an AP pro- except in his claim. Bebediktus exposed his lack of knowledge  and Real doesn't think you can properly track an online wheel .
Real is not an AP pro . He was / is employed in the " wheel making industry " which is why he knows more about wheels than the rest of us put together .
I wish I could get you in a real B&M casino .  Words in a forum is the best you can do and that is something you certainly do extremely well . With an average 4.5 posts a day  you  need to take some medication for your verbal diarrhoea - and your superiority complex !
 

MickyP

Re: Results for Scepticus 9 Block theory for Dozens
« Reply #41 on: December 31, 2018, 05:15:48 PM »
So says the recreational player who backed out of a challenge. So says the recreational player that waited for over 100 000 posts for someone to present the first test of his system. So says the recreational player who fought tooth and nail against Mike a mathematician and Real a wheel Pro, not forgetting MrPerfect our local AP pro.
You are either STUPID or just convinced that the zero has no impact on the game.
so say the man with too mjuch time on his hands . Note the spelling mistake. At least this wasn't copy past from history (I think).
Idid not ASK someone to test the method .Just to use it. No one can test your "winning " method because you don't have one worth testing. If you have one  post it.
Do yourself a favour and read your own thread. You have been waiting for this momemt all your forum life.

I did not accept Mr Ps  " challenge " because -as i think he himself will admit- there was no VALUE for either party.Your ignorance does not allow you to see that. So now you admit that you DID NOT accept the challenge that you threw in his face and tried to belittle him with.
The Expectancy chart shows that Mike was wrong and I was right. There cannot be a 100% chance of success or failure  where Uncertainty pertains. His claim that he can Predict  " UNPREDICTABILITY " is nonsense because if the unpredictable can be predicted then it  clearly cannot  be "unpredictable ". But you are too stupid to realise that . Easier to predict unpredictably than predictability.
There is no evidence that Mr P is an AP pro- except in his claim. From his knowledge and experience I have no reason to doubt him. When I am proficient enough to put his methods to the test I will revert back to you. Bebediktus exposed his lack of knowledge  and Real doesn't think you can properly track an online wheel . I am not a pro at wheel tracking but am am really stepping up my game.
Real is not an AP pro . Why is your opinion on others so definite? He was / is employed in the " wheel making industry " which is why he knows more about wheels than the rest of us put together .
I wish I could get you in a real B&M casino .  Words in a forum is the best you can do and that is something you certainly do extremely well . Thank you. With an average 4.5 posts a day  you  need to take some medication for your verbal diarrhoea - and your superiority complex ! You say I;m good with words and then you say I speak crap. HaHaHa. The Superiority Complex you speak about was bestowed upon me by you and little Tommy-boy. To all others I am equal but to you two I am up there.

 
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scepticus

Re: Results for Scepticus 9 Block theory for Dozens
« Reply #42 on: December 31, 2018, 06:17:46 PM »
Stupid is as Stupid does  !

 " I " did not challenge Mr. P . "He" challenged  me and ANY OTHERS  you stupid man  !
 If the Unpredictable can be predicted then it  cannot be Unpredictable can it. You stupid man !
Why do I think Real is not an AP professional ? Because he himself implied that , You stupid Man !

You think that  voluble posts  cannot  contain  "crap ? You  really are a Stupid man !

Keeep posting and give more proof that someone as stupid as you simply cannot earn  a living betting roulette ! 

 

MickyP

Re: Results for Scepticus 9 Block theory for Dozens
« Reply #43 on: December 31, 2018, 07:38:36 PM »
Stupid is as Stupid does  !
You've been chasing your own tail for years. What are you going to do when you finally get it?

 " I " did not challenge Mr. P . "He" challenged  me and ANY OTHERS  you stupid man  !
YOU challenged all AP specifically MrPerfect. Go back into your own history.
 If the Unpredictable can be predicted then it  cannot be Unpredictable can it. You stupid man !
Your 9 block will predict the first dozen (predictable according to you) I'd bet on the 28/29 split (unpredictable according to you) 0 comes up then 28 hits. I'm still betting and win but you sit on a new virtual no bet ready to predict the next cluster.
Why do I think Real is not an AP professional ? Because he himself implied that , You stupid Man !
Please provide evidence of the fact.

You think that  voluble posts  cannot  contain  "crap ? You  really are a Stupid man !
I know they can. Look at your thread, a long drop of crappy posts.

Keeep posting and give more proof that someone as stupid as you simply cannot earn  a living betting roulette !
It really does bother you that some people actually win with roulette.
 
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Third

Re: Results for Scepticus 9 Block theory for Dozens
« Reply #44 on: January 01, 2019, 10:44:17 AM »
I think that if you found the best aay to recover, the main system will be unneccessary, just play the recovery system

People say this but they don't have in mind the purpose of a recovery system nor the qualities of the main system that is applied. 

The main system needs to be the highest win rate that can be obtained and is the consistent bread winner that creates profits.

The recovery system's purpose is to take advantage of the accruing negative variance to either obtain full profit or minimize the loss as much as possible while minimizing the cost involved to accomplish these.  Without accrued negative variance, there is no need to use a recovery system because there is no debt and thus nothing to recover from.

A full system needs to be built on the foundation of loss certainty.
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