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Re: Very useful, most won't read it.
« Reply #15 on: December 25, 2018, 12:52:12 AM »
Not really Mr.j. There is an amount of spins required to win average session on any specific play situation. It's similar to palestice Dobblesteens' DTOP.  Edge takes time to dominate possible negative fluctuations . I had cases where 100 spins produce more losses then wins and 500 was a minimum to win something.
 I normally skip such cases , but they exist.

This is the sort of thing that I am trying to achieve as well.  I have noticed similar phenomenon.  I also cut the bad ones as soon as I am able.

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You can raise the stake faster to clear the line quicker, but if the table gets nasty it could be costly. I prefer to feed back some of my profit to get out of there in a hurry.

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mr j

Re: Very useful, most won't read it.
« Reply #16 on: December 25, 2018, 12:56:06 AM »
He said that in general, not directly to me. Is that an answer? I said it before, I dont PRETEND this-n-that, you guys do. I dont have denial issues, you guys do. I am will willing to learn from more veteran players, you guys are unwilling. I can go on and on. **WE** are not in the same boat. Also, Real has stated that with my SELECTION of hot numbers, I could be using AP and not know it. There have been other threads (you were probably not born yet) regarding.......using AP and not know it. Very fun and interesting conversations. If your system is >>>> after "X" happens, bet "Y", that system will _____ work.
 

mr j

Re: Very useful, most won't read it.
« Reply #17 on: December 25, 2018, 01:00:05 AM »
No family here and the casino is too busy. I'll be on C. Casino testing for the next 16 hours. This is what I do.
Get better, get better, get better, learn from mistakes, get better, open my ears and get better !!!!!!Roulette is my LIFE and LEARNING what does NOT work is my passion !!!!

While you're opening gifts, I'll be GETTING BETTER and moving UP the ladder.
 

MickyP

Re: Very useful, most won't read it.
« Reply #18 on: December 25, 2018, 03:39:42 AM »
He said that in general, not directly to me. Is that an answer? I said it before, I dont PRETEND this-n-that, you guys do. I dont have denial issues, you guys do. I am will willing to learn from more veteran players, you guys are unwilling. I can go on and on. **WE** are not in the same boat. Also, Real has stated that with my SELECTION of hot numbers, I could be using AP and not know it. There have been other threads (you were probably not born yet) regarding.......using AP and not know it. Very fun and interesting conversations. If your system is >>>> after "X" happens, bet "Y", that system will _____ work.

A very interesting comment you made Ken (text in red).

To me it sounds like you are claiming something, Not AP as such but maybe a Method (system) player with an edge. I'm not sure how to word it...don't want to offend anyone.

 

mr j

Re: Very useful, most won't read it.
« Reply #19 on: December 25, 2018, 04:50:22 AM »
"don't want to offend anyone" >> (lol) This is the key. I'm not sure what to post? Edge, no edge? I dont care.
AP, no AP? Whatever.
 
 

MickyP

Re: Very useful, most won't read it.
« Reply #20 on: December 25, 2018, 06:36:09 AM »
RoFL  :D :D :D

Yea right Ken, like you don't care what others think of you.

An Advantage Method  Player; you made my day.

Whatever it is that's what it is. Ken you are a System player "don't-wannabe cos I like AP"
 

Re: Very useful, most won't read it.
« Reply #21 on: December 25, 2018, 07:22:18 AM »
I think I get where Mr.J is coming from on this one.  I run a lot of spin tests.  From what I observe the sequences come in different waves with regards to repeats, outside bets, sector bets and so on. 

My favourite dozen on a 0 zero wheel is (0-2),(7-10),(13-14),(19-22),(30-33),(34-35) because of the dispersion on the wheel forming a dodecagon  on the wheel.  This originated from the train of thought that a dealer could avoid the Tiers and that air roulette could do the same but only so much on account of bounce and diamonds.  Eventually it won me some money on RNG (Never Use Free Credits) even though there's no physical element of dispersion at this point. 

I ran it though spins and the result is basically random interval waves of hits and misses and a bank roll raising and falling and different speeds based on betting method (progressions vs flat)  The sequence from hell has come before and will come again...  or it's happening now, and it won't end for a long time,  Or it's on it's last legs and you should get in there now while your set/method is hot. 

In a million spins there have been instances of all 37 numbers coming up non-repeat or my set of a dozen not coming up in hundreds of spins.  The wheel is always turning.  Where you dip in is where it matters.  Or rather, playing a different set or method that goes with what the current microtrend is at the time.   
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MrPerfect.

Re: Very useful, most won't read it.
« Reply #22 on: December 26, 2018, 08:04:58 AM »
Technically speaking... betting few numbers flat bet and win is like an AP visit card. Doing that without your bet selection producing edge is impossible. 
 

mr j

Re: Very useful, most won't read it.
« Reply #23 on: December 26, 2018, 02:13:09 PM »
"Doing that without your bet selection producing edge is impossible" >> You mean with no AP?
 

scepticus

Re: Very useful, most won't read it.
« Reply #24 on: December 26, 2018, 04:10:46 PM »
I think that  MOST  of casino profits are made from those who don't bet with a  Method  and not from those who do bet with a method . Whatever that method  is .
 

MrPerfect.

Re: Very useful, most won't read it.
« Reply #25 on: December 26, 2018, 06:12:03 PM »
"Doing that without your bet selection producing edge is impossible" >> You mean with no AP?
yes.
 

MickyP

Re: Very useful, most won't read it.
« Reply #26 on: December 26, 2018, 06:21:55 PM »
Even if only "method" players are at the table the casino will still win. You can not use the same sequence of numbers and expect every method to win with it. Player influence on a method is a huge factor and can not be bundled into one basket. The more numbers a method covers the more watered down the payouts are.

MrPerfect is saying that without a valid form of prediction playing few numbers will not yield the desired results. In this context edge is achieved through consistent accuracy of prediction.

While I was typing MrPerfect answered Kens question.
« Last Edit: December 26, 2018, 06:24:36 PM by MickyP »
 

mr j

Re: Very useful, most won't read it.
« Reply #27 on: December 26, 2018, 08:28:08 PM »
I think that  MOST  of casino profits are made from those who don't bet with a  Method  and not from those who do bet with a method . Whatever that method  is .

Here's a little trivia for you guys because I know, this happens to me (for me). If you are a SOMEBODY at your local casino, what is the FIRST thing pit will do when you sit down and do your buy in? Knowing the "experts" here, I promise I will not get one correct answer. You guys are big time so you should know. The AP guys that travel around the country, most likely will not have this issue.

Ken
 

mr j

Re: Very useful, most won't read it.
« Reply #28 on: December 26, 2018, 08:30:06 PM »

MrPerfect is saying that without a valid form of prediction playing few numbers will not yield the desired results. In this context edge is achieved through consistent accuracy of prediction.


I was trying to figure out if he meant AP or a method player(s)?
 

MickyP

Re: Very useful, most won't read it.
« Reply #29 on: December 26, 2018, 08:53:24 PM »
I think MrPerfect was referring to AP with regard to consistent accurate prediction. I know that AP is not the only accurate prediction tool so that's why I didn't include AP in my post. You would know.