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Author Topic: Big frustration. Some working systems but not applicable without automation.  (Read 841 times)

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palestis

The ultimate meaning of hit and  run means,  to abandon betting when a system's objective has been accomplished. Then wait for a new opportunity (trigger), and do the same at the same table or another table. 
That doesn't mean that a hit always results in a profit. You can hit and still have a negative balance.  ( trying to recover failed attempts in previous opportunities).
The point is to run  (stop betting), when  the system's target has been hit.
That is to distinguish it from continuing to bet, against a system's rules.
As most systems allow for only one successful try per opportunity.
That can be any of several intended series of bets after a trigger.
These series of bets can still lose if the system has not worked for this particular opportunity.
But still.  Running means that you have to wait for a new opportunity without betting.
Continuing to bet instead of running means that you don't have the patience to wait for the right opportunity, and rely on good luck to prevail rather than the system.

 
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scepticus

Hit and Run is a Short Run .
A Short Run is part of a Long Run.
So it doesn't matter whether you bet a Short Run or a Long Run  ( whateve that  is ! )   BECAUSE the odds NEVER change ! So a Short Run is NOT a fallacy -it is just a choice the Bettor makes.
 

mr j

Its kinda like the trigger or virtual thing. Its fine to implement it but it won't help you in any type of way. Same thing, hitNrun, use it but it will not hurt you OR help you in any fashion.
 

dobbelsteen

There are many kinds of hit and run. When you play a system with a strategy then you stop betting after the hit and wait for the next trigger to start the betting again. SSB is a concatenation of hit and run. After every hit you start the betting  again because the new trigger is the next number. The SSB video shows the whole game. It is very easy to understand.
 

mr j

The math EXPERTS would disagree with you and most of your statements.
 

Third

I don't care that multiple sessions EVENTUALLY make up one long session.  Every session is statistically unique which is an undeniable fact. All one has to do is track the statistics of different sessions from different wheels and it is obvious; trying to deny that is like saying the topography of France is the same as Spain.  If personal permanence is going to have its say with me, it will have to do it across different sets of statistical constructs (sessions).  The statement that "you might as well play straight through, it makes no difference" is simply ignorant, incorrect and is bad advice.  We need to do everything we can to win and avoid losing in every session, without exception.  For me, I definitely have lost less often and lost less when I do lose which I can prove from my games.  That's what matters, not some theory that requires an unknown and elongated number of spins to manifest at some point in the future.  Do we avoid the black swan and obtain a HG by this method?  Of course not but we do reap the short-term advantages that otherwise we would not have (again proven from my sessions).  Always take practical reality over theory every time.  Remember our critics DON'T CARE ABOUT OUR RESULTS, they only care that they are able to wake up every morning and convince themselves that physical causes are the only way to win  (a horrific lie) and will quote endless theory to accomplish that.
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palestis

Theoretically all short sessions add up to long run sessions.
What would make no difference is if you come to play unprepared.
Playing randomly (favorite numbers like  birthdays etc.), or systems that fail,  all short runs will add up to be a long run. With results that most likely will be on the losing side.
However, playing under carefully designed conditions, if you win in short runs, you will win in long runs.
Long run by itself is not necessarily a barrier to long term winnings, like most people believe.
Selective short runs, proven to be successful, will result in long runs that are also successful.
Statistically winning short runs, can only lead to a winning long run.
No ifs and buts about it.

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mr j

If you played today and then again in 7 years, BOTH of those sessions/days are intertwined. Its ONE long session.
 

GIAJJENNO

If you played today and then again in 7 years, BOTH of those sessions/days are intertwined. Its ONE long session.

But your daily example 200 spins equalise one long session in 7 years. Your 200 spins is one short session.
 

mr j

Lets try it like this. You never played roulette in your life (0 wheel). You played today (B&M) for 37 spins only. You bet only one number. You SHOULD get at least one hit. At the end of the 37, you got NO hits. You dont play again for 7 years. You go back to the casino for another 37 spins (74 TOTAL), betting one number and leave. At that point, you now need (& should get 2 hits) etc.

ALL visits, sessions (word it as you wish) are CONNECTED, at least in terms of statistics. Loses, wins etc.
 

Third

However, playing under carefully designed conditions, if you win in short runs, you will win in long runs.

IKR?  Its like the whole argument is circular and was simply crafted by AP's to propagate their philosophy; like its the same phony argument of "you have to lose because of the house edge" just in different sheep's clothing.  AP's and everyone must play sessions of a certain length and its always up to us what that length is.  The only thing that matters is the results at the end of our session.

I simply choose to always use a different statistical landscape for x amount of units won and demand a new landscape for each new session and I always get it.  Its not the cause of my winnings but it is part of what I do when I win and it is directly tied to the statistics that apply to each separate session.

I don't play in the future, I play in the present and my present will become my future.
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mr j

 "Its like the whole argument is circular and was simply crafted by AP's to propagate their philosophy; like its the same phony argument of "you have to lose because of the house edge" just in different sheep's clothing"
>>> I'm not AP. How do you EXPLAIN my views? 
 

Third

There is no explanation that makes sense to me since there is no absolute need to propagate their theories since they only represent statistical opinions which are not completely true (the conclusions are incorrect which is the opinion part).  You shouldn't be wasting your time spouting their half-baked opinions and declaring them as absolute fact.  Even the GF is only theory that cannot be proven; meaning of course the conclusion drawn by using it as the basis of an argument applied towards gambling.

The truth is that everyone can win at roulette and we should be focused on that.  If each of us hold different opinions about how to accomplish this, we should not pretend that our approach is exclusive to all others.

Mr. P is an example of an AP that will accept anything that works and at least has an open mind some of the time.
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mr j

EVERY EVERY person on this board is pushing their own agenda (myself included) regardless if you want to admit it or not. Its like this >> Shut up Ken, I dont want to hear your views.

20 minutes later, that same person is posting regarding THEIR advice and/or new system. (lol) One guy is shunned from posting WHILE the very same rock throwers get a free pass. Makes LITTLE sense. As usual, inconsistent.

Ken
 

Third

I know you troll by nature but I will entertain your argument just for clarification's sake.  Of course none of us (generally speaking) go around like you hurling insults at players and declaring that their way of play is the only way to win.  That is a form of behavior that is unique to you and those you parrot.

Its very simple.  If you would tone it down a notch, simply state your views as an opinion (in the final analysis) and generally show a modicum of respect, nobody would have a problem with this.  The problems are you are insulting and just because you happen to be profitable, declare that only following your methods can work.  Nobody here (except those that act as you do which is simply disrespectful) wants to experience that kind of behavior.  If you won't give it up I hope you simply leave.

If you don't give it up while here, you will be consistently opposed and all your conniving whinery will fall upon deaf ears.
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