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Third

Re: 1 unit each visit
« Reply #15 on: December 17, 2018, 11:15:23 PM »
Gizmo is like a poet.
 

gizmotron

Re: 1 unit each visit
« Reply #16 on: December 18, 2018, 02:15:31 AM »
When you talk about $5 times 18 spots are you still talking about ECs ?

3 Net wins in  100 spins  . How many bets ?  Are you using a negative progression ?
What is your table bankroll for this  ? Is it  7 x $5 ?
And your session bankroll is what ?

Yes, I'm betting one $5 chip on each of my selected inside numbers, 18 in all. I also stack 18 chips on Black or Odd as an example of outside bets.  So the bankroll is 7 x $90 = $630.

So I only stay out of the repeated lost bets after 2 lost in a row. I won't explain why. Trade secret.  So I'm betting at least 80% of the time. There are never progressions. Progressions dig deep holes. They steel recovery bets and dig holes that way too. When you let a win ride for a second winner you lose half of those in EC betting. So you lose half of your break even bets. Those are the wins you need to stay close to even.
 
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Third

Re: 1 unit each visit
« Reply #17 on: December 18, 2018, 02:51:03 AM »
Hey Gizmo, how would your strategy do in Baccarat?
 

gizmotron

Re: 1 unit each visit
« Reply #18 on: December 18, 2018, 04:13:23 AM »
Hey Gizmo, how would your strategy do in Baccarat?

It does fine. There is only one stream of data to watch. But that is not that bad. When you have just one data track it gets all your attention. It works for any 50 / 50 game. I use it for Craps.
 
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Third

Re: 1 unit each visit
« Reply #19 on: December 18, 2018, 04:41:42 AM »
Funny thing, I used to think of baccarat as "only one stream" too but wouldn't you know it, professional baccarat players have discovered how to make it many streams!  There is P/B, Opposite/Repeat, Time Before Last(O/R), 2 Times Before Last(O/R)!  Some of the biases that occur in these categories are simply mind blowing.
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gizmotron

Re: 1 unit each visit
« Reply #20 on: December 18, 2018, 05:00:23 AM »
Funny thing, I used to think of baccarat as "only one stream" too but wouldn't you know it, professional baccarat players have discovered how to make it many streams!  There is P/B, Opposite/Repeat, Time Before Last(O/R), 2 Times Before Last(O/R)!  Some of the biases that occur in these categories are simply mind blowing.

It's still just one data stream. You are just noticing several of different types of characteristics of randomness. I do that too. There are patterns, series, dominance, weak sides, etc... for each data stream. In Roulette I use 6 groupings making up 12 sets. With Baccarat all you have is 1 grouping with 2 sets. The more characteristics that you can identify the better your chances of finding one that continues.
 
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Trilobite

Re: 1 unit each visit
« Reply #21 on: December 18, 2018, 05:39:02 AM »

I think the number of data streams is only limited by your imagination. For instance you can make a data stream for roulette by cobbling together the most recent result from several tables. Same goes for baccarat. Also, you could choose to only consider every second spin or play, the possibilities are endless, but must remain practical.

Personally I don’t think 1 unit per day is enough; in fact 1 unit per session is still not enough. Actually, IMO even 3 units per session is not enough. Remember Spike? He targeted 4 units per session (or was it 5?), anyway I kind of agree because it suits my set up, but I don’t see any reason why a player can’t commence a new session immediately upon achieving the 4 units profit. Heck, you can even backtrack for the new session if it follows your rules and throws up a new bet.


There can be many other considerations when deciding to call it a night, and to solely rely on 1, 3, or even 4 units per day is IMO far too restrictive. Remember, if your method wins long term then the longer you stay at the table the more you win, long term.


Don't sell yourselves short, people.
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Sputnik

Re: 1 unit each visit
« Reply #22 on: December 18, 2018, 06:19:11 AM »

Risk Management

Win target will be half the amount I risk.
Then I will regress and operate with casino money.
Will start with a higher base bet then minimum.

Hit & Run

I have my own conclusions about the subject and will not debate.

Bankroll management

I will not play with scared money and will risk two session banks to succeed.
If the first bank fails I will considering it having the same probability winning the lottery.
At least it feels that way, the odds are less than 1.5% to bust and over 98.5% to succeed.

Daily Routine

I will try to play one session each and every day.
But if there is no time or any other issue I will skip one day but compensate the next day.
Then I will enter two different tables/wheels using Hit & Run to compensate.

Cheers
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Sputnik

Re: 1 unit each visit
« Reply #23 on: December 18, 2018, 07:12:05 AM »


 @ Trilobite

Hit & Run

Every selection process has a losing sequence.
 When some one play non-stop they force the losing sequence to come to them sooner or later.
 Is like walking on a road, sooner or later you will stop walking because the road ends or a traffic light.
 We can see it like a line that is 100 yards long and at some place during this line we have a losing sequence.
 When we play non-stop we can not avoid this sequence.

 Luck & Lottery

If i randomly jump into the 100 yards i might and i might not hit the losing sequence.
But i am not forcing my self reaching the losing sequence playing non-stop to finally find out.
Each and every day when i enter a wheel i face a new line with 100 yards including a losing sequence.
But at different time, day and situation i enter the wheel to a complete new situation that is not the same as the  past one.

Assume we collect short samples and put them into same basket, then we get same results as any other 300 trails samples and we can continue doing so until we find the losing sequence playing non-stop.
Finally we will find the losing sequence and bust.

But i rather depend on the Luck & Lottery versus mechanical solutions.
This is how my selection work.

I pick a random number to follow as my final target number.
Every 100 sample 123 numbers fall into sleep.

This means that i have randomly chance not picking a losing final target number.
At average each time i enter a wheel i will have at least 34 winning numbers and at most 3 losing numbers.
And all depends on luck/lottery if i will hit my losing number.

That is first stage of the Hit & Run luck and lottery probability.
Next i need to lose seven even money bets with 50% probability each in the same time as my final target number fail and does have to begin with one of the three sleeping numbers.
They both has to fail in the samt time, situation and moment.

And this has to happen when i peak at the 100 yards line and use Hit & Run for one short moment.
At some point i will win the lottery, but is harder to win the lottery then playing non-stop mechanical.
Reason is that my way might last longer due to so many counter measuring random parameters.

Cheers

 
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MrPerfect.

Re: 1 unit each visit
« Reply #24 on: December 18, 2018, 08:14:54 AM »
Continuing analogy with traffic light or end of the road...
   How user of such a methodology will know that he started his trip far away from traffic light? What if traffic light is right 2 steps away?
   Future roulette results prevision required? 
 
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SugTips

Re: 1 unit each visit
« Reply #25 on: December 18, 2018, 08:28:51 AM »
   How user of such a methodology will know that he started his trip far away from traffic light? What if traffic light is right 2 steps away?

Yes it can and will happen.
But will it happen everytime? How many times out of 100 times?
 

Sputnik

Re: 1 unit each visit
« Reply #26 on: December 18, 2018, 11:33:18 AM »


 SugTips

 The Binomial Parachute lose less then once every 100 sessions
 The Final Target Number lose at average six times every 100 sessions

 For me is a great feeling to know that i don't force my way into mechanical disaster.
 I depend on luck and lottery probability in the reverse way.

 Cheers

 
 
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Third

Re: 1 unit each visit
« Reply #27 on: December 18, 2018, 01:57:17 PM »
Above you said 98.5% which is more than 1 per 100 sessions but this last post you said less than 1 per 100 sessions which is 99%+?  It actually makes a difference because the expected back to back failure statistics will fluctuate based on your base win rate.
 

Sputnik

Re: 1 unit each visit
« Reply #28 on: December 18, 2018, 02:26:33 PM »


 Third i don't know the odds for failing 10 even money bets in a row.
 I know that you have less then 1.5% failing and more then 98.5& to succés for six even money bets.

 But is get more complex when you not only need to fail using the binomial parachute.
 You also need at the same momentum lose the final target number for 100 trails with no show.

 And upon that you have at least 34 winning number to pick from each session where you face 37 degree of freedom when it boils down to the final target number versus 10 even money bets using the parachute.

How do you calculate the probability for that LOL

Cheers
 

Third

Re: 1 unit each visit
« Reply #29 on: December 18, 2018, 02:30:02 PM »
IKR?  What we have to do is count beans.  Is it mechanical on which bets you place the whole way?