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MickyP

Re: The talos seesion dump analysis
« Reply #30 on: December 13, 2018, 09:54:28 PM »
Are you aware that DrTalos uses a duel method approach? The main system is the first five spins and thereafter the recovery system kicks in.
 

Third

Re: The talos seesion dump analysis
« Reply #31 on: December 14, 2018, 01:07:11 AM »
Well after I finally read the whole thread, I discovered that the first series of bets are fixed, right?
 

Third

Re: The talos seesion dump analysis
« Reply #32 on: December 14, 2018, 04:43:02 AM »

Just had another one!  Closed it out with 99.374% certainty and again just around 1/3rd of my bankroll drawdown.


Roulette can only go 1 of 2 ways: 1:60 or 0:60 and it can only go 0:60 so many times in a row before it will go 1:60.  This session collected 2 coups and was about to close but then suddenly went 0:99 followed immediately by 0:131!!  I had faith in the 99.37% and pressed forward with 4 wins and simply closed the session.  As long as we don't have to risk our bankroll to close in 1:60, we should go for it because we will win very many times to every loss.  Could I have said, "This bet amount is too high" and chickened out, abandoning the ratio?  Sure, but as long as we are in the range of current debt-all time high debt, who really cares how much the bet is?  Its like a "debt-recovery-Paroli".  The Talos method puts us in situations of massive negative variance with a huge statistical advantage in our favor.

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MickyP

Re: The talos seesion dump analysis
« Reply #33 on: December 14, 2018, 11:44:02 AM »
Well after I finally read the whole thread, I discovered that the first series of bets are fixed, right?

I see you have read up on DrTalos posts and threads.

He starts off by selecting a target. The target may be a dozen but not always the same one. There is a new target for each game. Once he has selected a target he sticks to it for 5 spins (60 numbers covered in 5 spins). If he wins the game is over and he starts again but if he loses then from spin 6 his recovery method kicks in and will continue until he is in profit for that game. It's a very simple concept. I was intrigued by his writing; a great mind. The simple things in life holds the answers to many overthought and complicated approaches to finding a solution to a perceived problem.
 
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GIAJJENNO

Re: The talos seesion dump analysis
« Reply #34 on: December 14, 2018, 12:18:01 PM »
And what is his recovery system, can we know how he plays exactly?
 

Third

Re: The talos seesion dump analysis
« Reply #35 on: December 14, 2018, 03:27:46 PM »
We know that:

1) Any game that reaches the equivalent of 1:60 is closed with a win
2) He uses a divisor
3) He constantly keeps his betting amounts as low as possible and uses technique to do so

He has stated if we do the 3 above things that we can win at roulette but that there is something more that he has discovered to make a HG out of it.

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scepticus

Re: The talos seesion dump analysis
« Reply #36 on: December 14, 2018, 03:46:55 PM »
" as long as we are in the range of current debt-all time high debt, who really cares how much the bet is? " Third

Oh.! Third ! Think " Risk to Reward " .
 

Third

Re: The talos seesion dump analysis
« Reply #37 on: December 14, 2018, 04:02:29 PM »
I strictly monitor the all time high debt.  Its kind of hard not to actually.  There is a certain freedom in not having to care how much you bet (think "Paroli" and "money to burn") because:

a) the chances of getting a hit and winning the session are so fantastically high
b) there is no additional risk as long as the debt levels remain within a certain range

I could transform the system into a stop loss system but it would no longer be the Talos methodology where:

1) He uses negative variance to cause his numbers to come in
2) He wins all sessions

I like the motto: "Professional gamblers fight to close sessions".  There is a definite statistical advantage to winning sessions instead of losing them because we are up against full random in a negative expectation game.

I guess a stop loss method is taking the negative variance to the realm of personal permanence and because I haven't discovered his hidden secret, at a certain point I am forced to take a stop loss or risk my entire bankroll against slivers of percentage chances that I will fail (unacceptable).  I also carry a second table bank as insurance against a possible "trench with an undertow" where I will never be able exit advantageously; i.e. I never reach a good stop loss.

I have doubled my table bank now four times and have yet to see a session without a decent stop loss.
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leowls

Re: The talos seesion dump analysis
« Reply #38 on: December 14, 2018, 08:20:10 PM »

Roulette can only go 1 of 2 ways: 1:60 or 0:60 and it can only go 0:60 so many times in a row before it will go 1:60.  This session collected 2 coups and was about to close but then suddenly went 0:99 followed immediately by 0:131!!  I had faith in the 99.37% and pressed forward with 4 wins and simply closed the session.  As long as we don't have to risk our bankroll to close in 1:60, we should go for it because we will win very many times to every loss.  Could I have said, "This bet amount is too high" and chickened out, abandoning the ratio?  Sure, but as long as we are in the range of current debt-all time high debt, who really cares how much the bet is?  Its like a "debt-recovery-Paroli".  The Talos method puts us in situations of massive negative variance with a huge statistical advantage in our favor.

Do you mind sharing how do you play the game? Do you bet on single number only?
 

Third

Re: The talos seesion dump analysis
« Reply #39 on: December 14, 2018, 08:54:42 PM »
The Talos method can be used with any bet selection.  For B & M casinos, I bet the hottest wheel sector, where each sector is 3 numbers and the 0 is excluded from analysis.  Even if the 0 should become the hottest number, it will not affect my ability to profit.
 
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Third

Re: The talos seesion dump analysis
« Reply #40 on: December 16, 2018, 10:56:54 PM »
There is a very special way to use the divisor to keep one's bets from climbing out of control.  Sometimes in order to keep our bets lower, we have to do the opposite of what we would expect!  If I could just look into the future and do now what I need to do to have the future that I want!



Full random doesn't generate its results in nice neat and tidy packages and neither should we!
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Third

Re: The talos seesion dump analysis
« Reply #41 on: December 21, 2018, 09:54:14 AM »
Recently had the worst session on record.  Started off with a record breaking 0:281 (.9996) which comprised 3 successive and separate Losses and is a 1:2442 event (in coup attempts), which is about once in every 611 sessions.  This was followed by 0:85 (.907844)  and 0:123 (.96754)!  This was 6 total Loss Events (.9980) for a single session which is the statistical sign that I am in a deep trench and must retreat as soon as I am able (1:518 coup attempts; 1 in 130 sessions) .  I achieved a Win and simply accepted the loss of 2/3rds of my table bank.  Here is what it looked like:


Its been 2 days and I am all but fully caught up.  In 130 won sessions, I earn around $3885 which is over 3.5x the amount of the loss.  On a side note, I was actually testing out a more aggressive betting variation and because of this event, I decided to abandon it for a more mild but still statistically advantageous approach.  The thing about Talos is that he has found a way to reach the bottom of the trench, get the gold and get back with oxygen still left in his tank!

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jerome26b

Re: The talos seesion dump analysis
« Reply #42 on: December 26, 2018, 10:18:59 AM »
Hi all,

Talos said he found a weakness of the game and the weakness was a structural one. Not linked to american or european roulette so i suppose not layout based. If this secret can be solved it could lead easily to his system. At this moment i was never able to solve this weakness trick. He talked sometimes about LOTT saying he tried to exploit it but unsuccessfully so for my understanding his weakness he found is not related to LOTT.

jerome
 

Third

Re: The talos seesion dump analysis
« Reply #43 on: December 26, 2018, 10:45:02 AM »
You are still winning, right?
 

leowls

Re: The talos seesion dump analysis
« Reply #44 on: December 26, 2018, 02:21:23 PM »
Hi all,

Talos said he found a weakness of the game and the weakness was a structural one. Not linked to american or european roulette so i suppose not layout based. If this secret can be solved it could lead easily to his system. At this moment i was never able to solve this weakness trick. He talked sometimes about LOTT saying he tried to exploit it but unsuccessfully so for my understanding his weakness he found is not related to LOTT.

jerome

It has to be repeaters...im not sure if one can label repeaters as LOTT though. In one of Talos' posts he said it's more likely for the earth to be hit by an asteroid than for the roulette wheel to churn out 37 different numbers in 37 spins. So it has to be repeaters that he's betting on.

He said statistically our number should hit 1 in every 37 or 38 spins. So every number on the wheel will have it's due. Some will come sooner than the others. Some will hit more often than the others. But eventually all of them will hit. He did not play single number. He played a minimum of 6 numbers (he mentioned somewhere) and could be forced to play just one but that situation never occurred ever since his system was born.

If we go by statistics and bet  one of the three dozens, we should hit 12 of out 37 spins. We could hit the 12 spins early (thus giving us profit), late in the game where there won't be any loss or profit (provided we hit 12 times) or some of the 12 will be spilled over to the next 37 spins. This is where his progression comes in. What's missing in the previous 37 spins will be compensated in the next 37 spins.  I think at least  that's the  theory his system is based on. I could be wrong.
 
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