### Author Topic: The talos seesion dump analysis  (Read 12655 times)

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#### Third

##### Re: The talos seesion dump analysis
« Reply #15 on: December 02, 2018, 07:21:25 AM »
It works.  There is a trick to modifying the divisor which of course is the same thing as banking debt.  Just had one of the worst sessions on record: 1:124 1:105 1:174 all in a row.  To give you an idea of how bad my bet selection was doing, the worst performing number on the wheel was outperforming me!  I would have done better betting the worst number and just staying there!  Yet, it was one of the most relaxing sessions as the Ahlcon Divisor kept the bets very low while maintaining proper relationship with the debt.  My numbers simply came in at chances of 0.9998086875 certainty.    Only 27.67% of my bankroll came into play.  We have to believe in the impossible, the silly and impractical because statistics are a very mind bending thing.

All I can say is we must believe what Talos says because he is not lying.
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#### leowls

##### Re: The talos seesion dump analysis
« Reply #16 on: December 07, 2018, 12:12:34 PM »
i came upon the 1/60 rule that is used to correct flight direction should they stray off from their original path. I wonder if this can help us in our roulette progression or does it has something to do with DrTalos' unique progression?

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#### Third

##### Re: The talos seesion dump analysis
« Reply #17 on: December 07, 2018, 01:17:07 PM »
Nice video.  I can finally say that I have read the whole thread now.  The number 60 just represents the largest number that Talos could affordably use to stay in touch with the debt as he states here:

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CANON 57
As I said, I forgot about selection, I kept aside outcome. Statistically speaking, I should hit one number every 37 played (38 on American Wheel). Let's consider variance, because statistic works on big numbers, and I tried if I could sustain 1 hit every 40 numbers played, then 45, then 50... I stretched the idea till the maximum I could manage, and I find myself in the ratio 1/60, that is quite good, in my opinion.

I don't think that means we cannot use a different number but that the minimum number that is necessary is 1:60.

#### Mako

##### Re: The talos seesion dump analysis
« Reply #18 on: December 07, 2018, 08:57:25 PM »
Nice video.  I can finally say that I have read the whole thread now.  The number 60 just represents the largest number that Talos could affordably use to stay in touch with the debt.

I don't think that means we cannot use a different number but that the minimum number that is necessary is 1:60.

Nice third, you're doing good work in this thread.  [size=78%] [/size]

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#### Third

##### Re: The talos seesion dump analysis
« Reply #19 on: December 07, 2018, 09:29:09 PM »
Something like the below would be more helpful than the airplane routing example:

The Talos game is all about how quickly our numbers come in at a rate of 1:60.
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#### heatmap

##### Re: The talos seesion dump analysis
« Reply #20 on: December 08, 2018, 03:28:45 AM »
what i find interesting about this entire thread is that no one thinks its a coincidence that ryeth posted about the system years before drtalos reiterates it in a cryptographic form?

Annnd ryeth is still gone? i mean he said he was going to meet talos or something before he left... am i wrong?

there are no such thing as coincidence ladies and gentlemen
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#### leowls

##### Re: The talos seesion dump analysis
« Reply #21 on: December 08, 2018, 07:10:17 AM »
we cant be sure that's the system Talos is playing. One canon of his is that he never plays even chance which that system is playing.

#### Third

##### Re: The talos seesion dump analysis
« Reply #22 on: December 08, 2018, 09:56:33 AM »
drtalos reiterates it in a cryptographic form?
What does this mean?

#### heatmap

##### Re: The talos seesion dump analysis
« Reply #23 on: December 10, 2018, 04:42:08 AM »
Rather than just explain his system he eeks every possible second to be vague and i feel that even though he might have a system, the salesmanship turned me off to even reading into anything the guy says. when people talk in circles, as well as saying alot about something that is probably easy to learn and do yourself.

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#### Third

##### Re: The talos seesion dump analysis
« Reply #24 on: December 10, 2018, 09:37:18 AM »
No, he definitely has something that is out of the ordinary.  I have reached the stage where he describes the winning system but I must accept the rare losing session where he is doing something that allows him to play for the win.

#### leowls

##### Re: The talos seesion dump analysis
« Reply #25 on: December 10, 2018, 11:31:55 AM »
Reyth is our only hope and proof that his system is real. But too bad he disappeared from the forum about the same time as talos.

#### GIAJJENNO

##### Re: The talos seesion dump analysis
« Reply #26 on: December 10, 2018, 11:40:06 AM »
Talos did something with Reyth.

#### jerome26b

##### Re: The talos seesion dump analysis
« Reply #27 on: December 11, 2018, 10:34:21 AM »
If you read and analyze well the session and numbers played/balance like i did in the beginning of this post it’s impossible that the system work like he explained or you will reinvent the maths. So taking that into account i’m very sceptical now that the whole story is true. And i definitely forgot about the idea that a never losing system exist. Except with an infinite bankroll. Why not taking the session and continue the analysis ? It’s the only very valuable piece he left and we see that it’s mathematically impossible so i will maybe continue to believe like i did at some moments that all these ideas and canon where to make us work to give him some solution about a system he really wanted.

#### Third

##### Re: The talos seesion dump analysis
« Reply #28 on: December 11, 2018, 09:45:18 PM »
Well there is nothing wrong with a winning system, by definition, its profitable.  Because he tracks variance so well, its very easy to know when we are at the point he mentions "close to a win but a session that is not ending" and we simply choose the best time to end it.  If we set up the statistics properly, it should be easy to make up the loss very quickly and the rest is just profit.

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#### Third

##### Re: The talos seesion dump analysis
« Reply #29 on: December 13, 2018, 09:45:28 PM »
Just had a 1:451 won game event with the chances of winning at 99.6%, my drawdown was just at 1/3 of my bankroll.  We started the session with 0:161 which is a 98.81% event but then failed to close the session and went 0:143 which is a 98.11 event!  There was a slight hiccup following that which brought our total loss events to 4 in the session and we then successfully closed it out.  What the Talos method does is track negative variance with the idea that by keeping our ability to always finish the game at 1:60 but betting as little as we can while still doing that, we will eventually outlast that negative variance.  His betting method allows for multiple coups to recover the debt by establishing a range between the highest loss and the current debt.  The logic can run that the amount one bets while still within that range, is irrelevant and only closing the game at 1:60 matters.  Like I have said though, he has achieved this level of success and discovered something even more profound because eventually I arrive at the point where my enterprise becomes absurd and I must negotiate some kind of loss, surrendering the 1:60 ratio for the safety of my bankroll and my future profits over time.
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