### Author Topic: The "Playing few numbers" saga  (Read 10045 times)

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#### MickyP

##### The "Playing few numbers" saga
« on: November 19, 2018, 06:44:52 AM »
If you join the forum, post a few opinions, challenge a few opinions and leave non the wiser then it would be considered a waste of time or simply forum pollution.

You see, this and I presume other forums are filled with enough negative opinions (pollution) to convince players that roulette is a one way street to losing it all. But, if you think rationally/logically and apply yourself to a disciplined "learning" protocol then you may find some shiny gems hidden in the chaos of opinions.

One such opinion is "less is more"; playing a few numbers in a strategic manner makes all the difference at the end of the day. Learning the value of Risk vs Reward by concentrating on a few numbers is "value added" to your approach.

To have a chance of "winning" I say find and concentrate your efforts on playing a few numbers only.

Pack away playing 24 numbers (2 dozens); even 12 numbers is too much. Seriously, 8 numbers is the highest amount of numbers you should consider playing but still this number should be reduced.
If all the tools that have been developed to pinpoint winning numbers/areas actually work as well as we believe then playing fewer numbers shouldn't be a problem. It is the lack of trust in our tools that keeps us playing many numbers. Find tools that allow you to determine a target and focus on that target keeping within the parameters of your rules.

I admit that Ken (Mr J) is on the mark with playing 4 numbers only. As Ken has focused himself to creating a method based on 4 numbers so should all players focus their attention on parameters of an approach that they feel comfortable with. Less is indeed more.

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#### Third

##### Re: The "Playing few numbers" saga
« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2018, 08:16:44 AM »
In any random sequence, regardless of length, you will find 4-5 numbers that will hit higher than expectation above the other numbers.  You will also find, in that same sequence, about a dozen numbers that will never do so, along with a few more that very, very rarely do so.
« Last Edit: November 19, 2018, 08:21:35 AM by Third »

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#### alcatraz

##### Re: The "Playing few numbers" saga
« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2018, 09:13:14 AM »
I never play more than 3-4 Numbers. Your post imo goes in the right direction.

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#### Trilobite

##### Re: The "Playing few numbers" saga
« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2018, 09:36:07 AM »
If you're playing a system/method then it makes little difference how many numbers you play, as long as you configure everything in relative proportion.

Personally, I prefer a high octane game with action aplenty. You just can't play that way with 3 or 4 numbers.  Simply put, it's boring.
« Last Edit: November 19, 2018, 09:39:21 AM by Trilobite »

#### MickyP

##### Re: The "Playing few numbers" saga
« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2018, 10:28:19 AM »
Personally, I prefer a high octane game with action aplenty. You just can't play that way with 3 or 4 numbers.  Simply put, it's boring.

Appreciate your argument Trilobite but boring allows you to take the bacon home.

A good question should be: Why do you play Roulette; fun or to make money?

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#### rimsky

##### Re: The "Playing few numbers" saga
« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2018, 10:44:32 AM »
I've been playing Mr J (Ken) system for about a month and in my view it's the best system I've ever played. I got a bit deluded because I won the first seven-eight sessions in a row, but then things started get worse and now I am break-even. But I'm working on its tweaks. It's rapid, it's exciting, and most of all it has the best risk/reward ratio I've ever seen. Moreover I can use a win goal/stop loss ratio which is 1:1, which is also great. Flat betting few (max 5) hottest straight ups I think COULD be the way.
« Last Edit: November 19, 2018, 10:56:21 AM by rimsky »

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#### MickyP

##### Re: The "Playing few numbers" saga
« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2018, 10:58:40 AM »
You are on the right path Rimsky. Ken has not revealed his final "few numbers method" and will not but what he has done is to light the way for others. I respect his choice not to share any more than he has so it's up to us to find our way going forward.

Ken used a process of elimination and I think that is a good starting point. Dump everything that feeds off your bankroll. Examine tools that can assist in identifying numbers to bet on.
Spring clean your house and get rid of the pollution. Focus on your mission.

#### rimsky

##### Re: The "Playing few numbers" saga
« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2018, 11:12:09 AM »
Yes I also use an "elimination string" ranging from 2 to 5 numbers.I think one of the key points is try to maximixe the profit when we are far ahead. I mean if my win goal is +100, when I am about +80 I could start focusing only on the last three hottest, doubling the unit value. In hot sessions this could bring about tremendous surplus of profit, when you get multiple hits in a very narrow range of spins. And when it does not work and I fall back let's say +55/+60 I turned back to the "normal mode".
« Last Edit: November 19, 2018, 11:15:21 AM by rimsky »

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#### gizmotron

##### Re: The "Playing few numbers" saga
« Reply #8 on: November 19, 2018, 01:46:44 PM »
If you want to understand the randomness of the hottest very few numbers then you should use a computer to tell you the intervals between hit of all the numbers in a 300 spin data chart. Read hundreds of those charts and learn how hottest numbers act. From that data you will come up with knowledge and experience as to what is common and what is rare. With that knowledge you can use conditional MM to do better than average by avoiding the times when your strategy does not work. Even this hot number method must have times when it works better at times and worse at others. Those are conditions that you can evaluate and adjust for. Or, at least in my opinion, you should acquire a skill for that at least. Ken probably has done that.

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#### Third

##### Re: The "Playing few numbers" saga
« Reply #9 on: November 19, 2018, 05:42:42 PM »
you can use conditional MM to do better than average by avoiding the times when your strategy does not work...you should acquire a skill for that at least.

#### gizmotron

##### Re: The "Playing few numbers" saga
« Reply #10 on: November 19, 2018, 06:13:44 PM »
Here is an example of what I mean from one of my sims:

01) 006, 027, 124, 028, 039, 047, 031,
02) 004, 011, 007, 059, 032, 007, 049, 065, 017, 029,
03) 007, 054, 024, 039, 001, 009, 024, 007, 018, 020, 046, 016,
04) 032, 007, 001, 057, 011, 008, 051, 048, 006, 017, 002, 029, 020, 006,
05) 008, 042, 041, 185, 002,
06) 017, 052, 107, 012, 042, 006, 057,
07) 026, 012, 015, 033, 017, 030,
08) 028, 001, 085, 027, 075, 010, 002, 056, 007,
09) 030, 015, 034, 014, 039, 004, 010, 045, 028, 086, 007,
10) 021, 013, 008, 031, 002, 024, 024, 088, 003, 004, 019, 089,
11) 020, 038, 004, 081, 006, 019, 027, 009, 042,
12) 036, 076, 032, 011, 001, 016, 014, 006, 065, 003, 058,
13) 064, 053, 030, 043, 077, 012, 035,
14) 018, 031, 005, 016, 017, 094, 008, 056, 003, 014,
15) 010, 100, 035, 021, 109,
16) 130, 024, 079, 057, 017,
17) 174, 001, 048, 035, 008, 050,
18) 078, 014, 003, 031, 160, 022,
19) 063, 005, 003, 057, 009, 124, 011, 011, 009,
20) 159, 003, 046, 017, 038, 018, 016,
21) 003, 010, 053, 028, 037, 009, 008, 045, 107, 004, 017,
22) 027, 084, 040, 027, 042, 011, 057, 029,
23) 037, 006, 014, 039, 013, 006, 027, 060, 066, 038,
24) 014, 034, 004, 022, 106, 055, 075, 003,
25) 009, 071, 008, 030, 032, 029, 085, 051,
26) 044, 039, 015, 002, 007, 092, 053, 021,
27) 016, 039, 029, 006, 029, 042, 045, 023, 074,
28) 001, 034, 006, 018, 104, 044, 015, 060, 043,
29) 005, 014, 041, 029, 095, 012, 001, 126,
30) 056, 045, 001, 019, 018, 021, 004, 007, 002, 066, 003, 001, 007, 027, 032, 002,
31) 023, 002, 040, 011, 029, 022, 071, 012, 003, 004, 015, 024, 038, 028,
32) 031, 020, 055, 064, 012, 005, 068, 041, 005,
33) 122, 030, 075, 032, 011, 029,
34) 067, 015, 022, 101, 007, 086, 022,
35) 011, 001, 123, 106, 003, 080,
36) 002, 044, 026, 005, 052, 009, 015, 041, 060,
0) 024, 023, 130, 023, 001, 008, 038, 006, 021, 011, 002, 032,
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#### Third

##### Re: The "Playing few numbers" saga
« Reply #11 on: November 19, 2018, 11:17:08 PM »
Well!  Not a good day to be playing outside bets! The following numbers are most likely the very best long term numbers:
30 4 31 3 10 0
Its possible that some of the best long-term numbers are sleeping among:
9 12 21 2 14 23
The only way to tell is to continue to observe the random sequence. We will find these patterns in every random sequence.
« Last Edit: November 19, 2018, 11:19:13 PM by Third »

#### mr j

##### Re: The "Playing few numbers" saga
« Reply #12 on: November 20, 2018, 04:24:34 AM »
Simply put, it's boring.

This is the MAIN reason why most dont do it or at least examine the idea. They want that ACTION and they want it NOW!  F**k the action. Slow & steady wins the race.

Ken

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#### Trilobite

##### Re: The "Playing few numbers" saga
« Reply #13 on: November 20, 2018, 06:15:12 AM »

A good question should be: Why do you play Roulette; fun or to make money?

For fun or money is an aside.

The real point is, and it's true, the few numbers game is bollocks. If you're playing a system/method then it makes little or no difference how many numbers you play, as long as you configure everything in relative proportion.

Wake up people, you're all asleep at the wheel.

#### MrPerfect.

##### Re: The "Playing few numbers" saga
« Reply #14 on: November 20, 2018, 07:58:53 AM »
It's not easy to search numbers under other players bets on the table, you know?  I personally find 3-5 number bet most practical for comfortable betting. Betting more numbers not always produce better results.

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