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(How to) Play & Win Systematically
« on: September 30, 2018, 04:17:24 PM »
Hello my fellow roulette players around the world!

Today I'm going to present you an example of how you CAN play and win systematically!

Almost everyone who had played roulette knows that luck cannot be always on our side because has other players to attend too, of course nobody likes losing, everybody likes winning, but on the end it doesn't really matter what we personally want but what can happen.

Any bet selection can be missing for too long, so long that it's highly impractical to wait and/or bet till it comes.

That's why there is not any direct solution, except if someone could predict accurately within probability limits.
For the 99.99 % who have not a prediction solution I've developed an indirect way to win even if our selection would be absent for very long time.

In my consideration the numbers as straight up bets are the best value for money because of the high payouts, but even with 36 times payout the betting could grow impractically when there are long delays.

They say 1 straight up pays 1 to 36, I say it pays 1 to 163!
No, I've not lost my mind, neither my shirt, I've just said that 1 single hit on a number pays 163 times the money wagered!

Let me introduce you to the accumulated combined odds:

3 ECs x 1 net payout each = 3
1 Dozen + 1 Column x 2 net payout each = 4
2 Lines x 5 net payout = 10
4 Quads x 8 net payout each = 32
1 Street x 11 net payout = 11
4 Splits x 17 net payout each = 68
1 Single number x 35 net payout = 35

3 + 4 + 10 + 32 + 11 + 68 + 35 = 163

The main principle is to have some additional coverage on the table layout which will sustain the BankRoll until the targeted number hits.
It's 1 thing 1 number to miss for too many spins and completely another to have all selected positions to be in long delay.

The key is to approach conservatively but realistically the target, when something is missing it's because something else is replacing it, you cannot have the 1 without the other!
From the other hand, we don't want to bet against ourselves, in other words we are not going to place bets which cannot ALL win simultaneously with 1 single spin!
For example, if I was betting on 2 dozens then I could not win them both at the same time apparently, this is what I mean that a player must learn not to bet against him/her self.

An example of such approach is coming up next, I'd gladly address your issues (if you have any)!

 

scepticus

Re: (How to) Play & Win Systematically
« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2018, 04:58:40 PM »
So 19 chips bet on each spin  BA ?
 
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Re: (How to) Play & Win Systematically
« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2018, 06:02:52 PM »

Number 8 went to sleep for 422 consecutive spins, can you attack this and win?
Impossible you say, I say let's see...!  8)

RESULTS    BETS                                                                           TOTAL
8                 -                                                                                      -
15           1 unit LOW                                                                          +1
11           1 unit LOW                                                                          +2
6             1 unit LOW                                                                          +3
4            1 unit LOW                                                                           +4
1            1 unit LOW                                                                           +5
26          1 unit LOW                                                                           +4
14    1 unit LOW + 1 unit EVEN                                                            +6
11          1 unit LOW                                                                           +7
5            1 unit LOW                                                                           +8
21          1 unit LOW                                                                           +7
13  1 unit LOW + 1 unit EVEN                                                              +7
31  1 unit LOW + 1 unit EVEN                                                              +5
13  1 LOW+1 EVEN+1 BLACK+1 2nd COLUMN                                       +5
25 1 LOW+1 EVEN+1 BLACK+1 2nd COLUMN                                        +1
2  1 LOW+1 EVEN+1 BLACK+1 2nd COLUMN+1 1st DOZEN+1 LINE 4/9  +7
34 1 LOW+1 EVEN                                                                              +7
35 1 LOW+1 EVEN                                                                              +5
25 1 LOW+1 EVEN+1 BLACK+1 2nd COLUMN                                       +1
32 1 LOW+1 EVEN+1 BLACK+1 2nd COLUMN+1 1st DOZEN+1 LINE 4/9  0
13 1 LOW+1 EVEN+1 BLACK+1 2nd COLUMN+1 1st DOZEN+1 LINE 4/9 -2
9  1 LOW+1 EVEN+1 BLACK+1 2nd COLUMN+1 1st DOZEN+1 LINE 4/9 +3
9  1 LOW+1 EVEN+1 BLACK+1 2nd COLUMN+1 1st DOZEN                   +3
2  1 LOW+1 EVEN+1 BLACK+1 2nd COLUMN+1 1st DOZEN                  +10
18 1 LOW                                                                                         +11
1   1 LOW                                                                                         +12
21 1 LOW                                                                                         +11
12 1 LOW+1 EVEN                                                                            +13
9   1 LOW                                                                                         +14
13 1 LOW                                                                                         +15
2   1 LOW                                                                                         +16
27 1 LOW                                                                                         +15
17 1 LOW+1 EVEN                                                                            +15
19 1 LOW+1 EVEN                                                                            +13
12 1 LOW+1 EVEN+1 BLACK+1 2nd COLUMN                                     +13
33 1 LOW+1 EVEN+1 BLACK+1 2nd COLUMN                                     +11
16 1 LOW+1 EVEN+1 BLACK+1 2nd COLUMN+1 1st DOZEN                +10
16 1 LOW+1 EVEN+1 BLACK+1 2nd COLUMN+1 1st DOZEN                 +9
10 1 LOW,1 EVEN,1 BLACK,1 2nd COLUMN,1 1st DOZEN,1 LINE 4/9     +12
10 1 LOW+1 EVEN+1 BLACK+1 2nd COLUMN                                     +14
30 1 LOW+1 EVEN+1 BLACK                                                             +13
0   1 LOW+1 EVEN+1 BLACK+1 2nd COLUMN                                     +9
26 1 LOW,1 EVEN,1 BLACK,1 2nd COLUMN,1 1st DOZEN,1 LINE 4/9     +10
33 1 LOW,1 EVEN,1 BLACK,1 2nd COLUMN,1 1st DOZEN                     +7
23 1 LOW,1 EVEN,1 BLACK,1 2nd COLUMN,1 1st DOZEN,1 LINE 4/9     +4
36 1 LOW,1 EVEN,1 BLACK,1 2nd COLUMN,1 1st DOZEN,1 LINE 4/9,1 LINE 7/12                                                                                               -1
32 1 LOW,1 EVEN,1 BLACK,1 2nd COLUMN,1 1st DOZEN,1 LINE 4/9,1 LINE 7/12, 1 QUAD 7/11                                                                         -4
6 1 LOW,1 EVEN,1 BLACK,1 2nd COLUMN,1 1st DOZEN,1 LINE 4/9,1 LINE 7/12,1 QUAD 7/11                                                                         +3
21 1 LOW,1 EVEN,1 BLACK,1 2nd COLUMN,1 1st DOZEN,1 LINE 4/9,1 LINE 7/12                                                                                             -4
0 1 LOW,1 EVEN,1 BLACK,1 2nd COLUMN,1 1st DOZEN,1 LINE 4/9,1 LINE 7/12,1 QUAD 7/11                                                                        -12
21 1 LOW,1 EVEN,1 BLACK,1 2nd COLUMN,1 1st DOZEN,1 LINE 4/9,1 LINE 7/12,1 QUAD 7/11,1 QUAD 4/8                                                      -21
5 1 LOW,1 EVEN,1 BLACK,1 2nd COLUMN,1 1st DOZEN,1 LINE 4/9,1 LINE 7/12,1 QUAD 7/11,1 QUAD 4/8,1 QUAD 8/12                                  -8
26 1 LOW,1 EVEN,1 BLACK,1 2nd COLUMN,1 1st DOZEN,1 LINE 4/9,1 LINE 7/12,1 QUAD 7/11                                                                        -9
27 1 LOW,1 EVEN,1 BLACK,1 2nd COLUMN,1 1st DOZEN,1 LINE 4/9,1 LINE 7/12,1 QUAD 7/11,1 QUAD 4/8                                                      -18
9 1 LOW,1 EVEN,1 BLACK,1 2nd COLUMN,1 1st DOZEN,1 LINE 4/9,1 LINE 7/12,1 QUAD 7/11                                                                         -2
28 1 LOW,1 EVEN,1 BLACK,1 2nd COLUMN,1 1st DOZEN,1 LINE 4/9,1 LINE 7/12,1 QUAD 7/11                                                                        -6
6 1 LOW,1 EVEN,1 BLACK,1 2nd COLUMN,1 1st DOZEN,1 LINE 4/9,1 LINE 7/12,1 QUAD 7/11                                                                        +1
19 1 LOW,1 EVEN,1 BLACK,1 2nd COLUMN,1 1st DOZEN,1 LINE 4/9,1 LINE 7/12                                                                                            -6
17 1 LOW,1 EVEN,1 BLACK,1 2nd COLUMN,1 1st DOZEN,1 LINE 4/9,1 LINE 7/12,1 QUAD 7/11                                                                        -7
22 1 LOW,1 EVEN,1 BLACK,1 2nd COLUMN,1 1st DOZEN,1 LINE 4/9,1 LINE 7/12,1 QUAD 7/11                                                                        -11
13 1 LOW,1 EVEN,1 BLACK,1 2nd COLUMN,1 1st DOZEN,1 LINE 4/9,1 LINE 7/12,1 QUAD 7/11,1 QUAD 4/8                                                     -16
2 1 LOW,1 EVEN,1 BLACK,1 2nd COLUMN,1 1st DOZEN,1 LINE 4/9,1 LINE 7/12,1 QUAD 7/11,1 QUAD 4/8                                                     -13
25 1 LOW,1 EVEN,1 BLACK,1 2nd COLUMN,1 1st DOZEN,1 LINE 4/9,1 LINE 7/12,1 QUAD 7/11,1 QUAD 4/8                                                     -22
26 1 LOW,1 EVEN,1 BLACK,1 2nd COLUMN,1 1st DOZEN,1 LINE 4/9,1 LINE 7/12,1 QUAD 7/11,1 QUAD 4/8,1 QUAD 8/12                                 -25
6 1 LOW,1 EVEN,1 BLACK,1 2nd COLUMN,1 1st DOZEN,1 LINE 4/9,1 LINE 7/12,1 QUAD 7/11,1 QUAD 4/8,1 QUAD 8/12,1 QUAD 5/9              -12
18 1 LOW,1 EVEN,1 BLACK,1 2nd COLUMN,1 1st DOZEN,1 LINE 4/9,1 LINE 7/12,1 QUAD 7/11,1 QUAD 4/8                                                    -17
2 1 LOW,1 EVEN,1 BLACK,1 2nd COLUMN,1 1st DOZEN,1 LINE 4/9,1 LINE 7/12,1 QUAD 7/11,1 QUAD 4/8,1 QUAD 8/12                                -15
28 1 LOW,1 EVEN,1 BLACK,1 2nd COLUMN,1 1st DOZEN,1 LINE 4/9,1 LINE 7/12,1 QUAD 7/11,1 QUAD 4/8                                                    -20
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22 1 LOW,1 EVEN,1 BLACK,1 2nd COLUMN,1 1st DOZEN,1 LINE 4/9,1 LINE 7/12,1 QUAD 7/11,1 QUAD 4/8,1 QUAD 8/12,1 QUAD 5/9              -33
30 1 LOW,1 EVEN,1 BLACK,1 2nd COLUMN,1 1st DOZEN,1 LINE 4/9,1 LINE 7/12,1 QUAD 7/11,1 QUAD 4/8,1 QUAD 8/12,1 QUAD 5/9,1 STREET  -43
18 1 LOW,1 EVEN,1 BLACK,1 2nd COLUMN,1 1st DOZEN,1 LINE 4/9,1 LINE 7/12,1 QUAD 7/11,1 QUAD 4/8,1 QUAD 8/12,1 QUAD 5/9,1 STREET  -51
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24 1 LOW,1 EVEN,1 BLACK,1 2nd COLUMN,1 1st DOZEN,1 LINE 4/9,1 LINE 7/12,1 QUAD 7/11,1 QUAD 4/8                                                     -15
9 1 LOW,1 EVEN,1 BLACK,1 2nd COLUMN,1 1st DOZEN,1 LINE 4/9,1 LINE 7/12,1 QUAD 7/11,1 QUAD 4/8                                                     -7
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Re: (How to) Play & Win Systematically
« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2018, 06:07:40 PM »
So 19 chips bet on each spin  BA ?

No, we dare as much as we must, not unnecessary risks and not all the eggs in 1 basket...by spreading the chips to various but "connected" betting locations we are counterbalancing variance, on the other hand, when our target will hit we will be there!
 

scepticus

Re: (How to) Play & Win Systematically
« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2018, 07:40:39 PM »
You never mentioned Black /Red  in your intoductionB A .So when do you change your bets - and Why?After a loss ?
 

Rinad

Re: (How to) Play & Win Systematically
« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2018, 07:53:33 PM »


  BA, that is a very interesting.
beleive it or not I have been using the same concept playing a single number.
not the exact same format but the leverage of making other bets that include your main number I think is key and as you stated we always need to include our number in it.
I will study your format and see how you made it work.
have you been using that same one and found it to be the best in term of "buying spins cheaply and taking you on a ride for that many spins?".
have you been playing it live yet ? table,airball?
Rinad
 

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Re: (How to) Play & Win Systematically
« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2018, 08:24:22 PM »
@ Scep, I mentioned 3 ECs, since number 8 is the target then the connecting ECs are Black, Even, Low.
I change always with the same order as you see them from the side of the table.
From left to right, LOW, EVEN, BLACK.

@ Rinad, there are 2 ways to play it, the one which I've presented above is calculating the total draw-down from last high or it could be from session's start, then you bet as many odds that would provide net profit if the targeted number was hit.
You begin adding the payouts by outside and moving gradually towards the inside, by 1 unit each bet type/location.

The other way to implement it is again calculating the odds needed in order to achieve net profit by hitting the targeted number.
Still begin by outside, 1 unit per bet type/location, BUT the ECs will raise up to 64 units, these 3 ECs have to reach 32 units each before you begin adding on the dozen and column.
The dozen and column will reach up to 32 units, they have to reach 16 units each before you begin adding on the 2 lines.
The 2 lines will reach up to 16 units each, they have to reach 8 units each before you begin adding on the 4 quads.

The 4 quads will reach up to 8 units each, they have to reach 4 units each before you begin adding on the street.

The street will reach up to 4 units, it has to reach 2 units before you begin adding on the 4 splits.

The 4 splits will reach up to 2 units each, they have to reach 1 unit each before you add 1 final unit on the targeted number.

Try to imagine it as building up a pyramid, from the ground up, each layer has a priority, the lower payouts must have proportionally more units than the higher payouts, we want our base to be rock solid in order to endure the rest of the "building" and the vibrations of variance.

I hope this helps.
 

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Re: (How to) Play & Win Systematically
« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2018, 08:45:23 PM »
This is negative progression ? the ECs must reach a certain level  before you introduce the next element -and so forth ?What bankroll do you use for this ?
 

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« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2018, 08:55:51 PM »
Mild negative, cannot be otherwise since we are expecting to profit by just 1 hit on the targeted number.
The max bets per bet type are the following:
ECs 64 units each
D/C 32 units each
LINES 16 units each
QUADS 8 units each
STREET 4 units
SPLITS 2 units each
NUMBER 1 unit
Total maximum bet 333 units.
This is about the 2nd variation, the 1st which is the 1 I presented the example needs smaller BR because it proceeds per bet location by 1 unit, it adds odds before raises to 2 units per bet type.

For the 1st it will be sufficient around 600 units, for the 2nd about 1000 units.
 
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« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2018, 09:15:23 PM »
Thanks AngeloNot for me though ,
I don't do Progression Betting . Unless I drop my guard  !
 

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« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2018, 09:34:15 PM »
About the 1st variation, we want to use ALL available odds in our disposal BEFORE we raise to 2 units per bet selection.
Per level the total net from accumulating the odds are 163, multiply this number by the amount of units, for example:
Level 1: 163 x 1 = 163
Level 2: 163 x 2 = 326
Level 3: 163 x 3 = 492
Level 4: 163 x 4 = 652

The money management is NOT only one way up, it's also regresses/decreases the units and/or odds according the current result.
Therefore it's not correct to characterize it as progression, it moves up and down between the levels, it goes back and forth with the betting types/locations, in 1 word; FLEXIBILITY!
 
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« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2018, 09:35:02 PM »


  Scept, you dont have to play it to overcome that many spins, right Angelo ? in other words a player could be playing the method in a way that souts him, and adapt it to its style.
the idea in genius because it fits my style of play and I know the power behind this method. you truly can make some decent profit and play it to endure 200/300 spins if one chose it.
I can look at weeks and months if not years before I dont see a number go more then 300 spins.
yes it does takes some calculations but you get use to it and it becomes easy after while.
the progression can be mild for sure and the bankroll is decent, heck I dont mind risking $$$ if I know I have a great method. glad you shared it Angelo and hope some will benefit from it.
Cheers,
Rinad
 
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« Reply #12 on: September 30, 2018, 09:45:39 PM »
Love this as it helps you expand your thinking in terms of utilizing different paths to attack the same target.

Great post BlueAngel, thanks for sharing.
 
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« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2018, 09:49:25 PM »
Thanks Rinad for confirming what I already know.
We have to consider it as a rock solid method which can endure even more than 300 missed spins and according to that the total of units is relatively LOW!
Have you any idea how many units you would need in order to win with a long sleeper?!
So even if we risk 1,000 units it's MUCH less in regards with the HIGH win probability it provides.

I want to be 100% honest, the only 2 disadvantages are there are MANY calculations involved which COULD lead to mistakes and it is "grinder", the cost of making something as safe as it gets comes with the cost of lesser payouts and slower coups during tougher sequences.

Not everything for everyone, perhaps people are attracted by outrageous claims because they WANT to believe them, maybe people want to naively believe that betting something really simple as a dozen is a HG...for your own good you have to realize that EFFECTIVE and SIMPLE are NOT going together!
There is not a free launch guys, I'm sorry if what I'm saying is not so pleasing, but my purpose is not to make impressions and mislead people.
 
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« Reply #14 on: October 01, 2018, 12:29:46 PM »

  BA, that is a very interesting.
beleive it or not I have been using the same concept playing a single number.
not the exact same format but the leverage of making other bets that include your main number I think is key and as you stated we always need to include our number in it.
I will study your format and see how you made it work.
have you been using that same one and found it to be the best in term of "buying spins cheaply and taking you on a ride for that many spins?".
have you been playing it live yet ? table,airball?
Rinad

I've just tested the 2 variations against sequences with super sleepers.
The fact that it needs many calculations discourages me to use it in B&M casinos, but it can be used on RNG or if programmed online physical wheels too.

How is your variation, is it much different?
Regarding your post at the other topic from Dane, you said that you had long winning streaks by playing defensively, part of your success in this defensive strategy must be the leveraged approach, right?
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