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MickyP

Re: The Talos debate
« Reply #30 on: March 03, 2018, 08:08:01 PM »
Mickey,  at this point it will be rude to not advice you mind your own benefit. Literally! !!
   I just posted algorithm for creation of winning systems in general. Do you realise? If not, l will be worried for your future as a player.
    Tread is about designing systems, right? Anyone who follow algorithm l posted  ( with some reading around, like few books and few posts here.) will be able to designe winning systems on demand . I would advice you to copy my previous post and reread it till you understand.

MrPerfect, according to you I am to read books and posts to get to what may be good pointers on developing a system. Give me a break.
You put a lot of hot air together hoping to lure DrTalos into accepting your challenge to do likewise.
As I stated... The fishing continues.

 

MrPerfect.

Re: The Talos debate
« Reply #31 on: March 03, 2018, 08:54:27 PM »
Hot air, Mickey?
  Do you see... Reyth , for example, is impressed with 75 times bank multiplication...over years!!!
 I posted on this very forum proves of win 150 times bank. In 2 sessions... like same day!!!
   I told you absolutely in open what to do, step by step. Obviously you will need to read some books to be able to implement my step by step, but it's expected. .. things like hypothesis testing, factor analysis,  baesian probability ... they all are in books and generally available knowledge. 
    Or you can follow Dr. Taos with his bla .bla. .woodoo,  wich he himself is unable to explain in simple words.
    Looks like forum posting for you is much more interesting then how to win in roulette. That's exactly what l mean when l say you need to mind your own benefit. 
 

jerome26b

Re: The Talos debate
« Reply #32 on: March 03, 2018, 08:55:18 PM »
MrTalos and others,

you said already more than one time you are italian so it’ not new but already more than one year we know  :)  anyway not so important.
i saw very good remarks and posts the last few days and very smart interventions from Kav i would say as well. Because it’s impossible to solve the trick if you say the truth or not we have to maybe try a more orignal way with the absurd. I’m always laughing about the same sentences like ‘if i’m talking about my system the casinos all around the world will change the game’ come on this game is there for so long you really think the casinos will change their roulette tableswheels or the rules (it will cost billions to adapt for sure nd train the croupiers) for just millions grinds by grinding players cause that’s an issue and like you said your system is boring to play and has its limits. Nobody will be very very rich with this system. Some people are getting rich on stock markets (more than in roulette) are they banned ? are they changing the rules ?
The casinos have these extra power they can even put you off if you gain too much so even with public HG or not i don’t have any worry for their business. Like in stock market there will be the vast majority of gamblers and récréative players that will make the business good. What i mean is the fact talking about that is a non sense.
A second point is there’s surely many winnings systems on many forums i doubt the system of DrTalos is the only one, he said that in an honest way many times.
Like Kav i strongly believe there’s some sequences  the wheel will deliver at a time than no system can resist, never even using statistical way of playing of needing one hit every 60 number plays. I did thousands of simulations and stacking plans and at a moment the worse will happen for sure.
It came so to my mind that the important point is the weakness of the wheel MrTalos discovered, now he’s talking about a rule we ignore ?!? I’ve got the idea that mrtalos found a way to exploit the bad distribution of the numbers among the American wheel and i’m still convinced it’s about that in some way (as well as distribution of black/reds) on the second and third columns. i tried many things around these topics but they failed too when i pushed them to the limits.
i get lots of interests on DrTalos clues nearly 1 year and half ago and i’ve to say i spent numbers of weekends and late evening working about his clues. I would not say one thousand hours but maybe yes ... at a moment you just feel you are a foul spending so much time around a system, not finding the trick and maybe for something that doesn’t exist at the end and it’s frustrating. When you are studying or spend time for a business at a moment you will be rewarded at the end if you don’t suck. In this case you can just pursuit a chimere all your life. So better at a moment to just try your own way even if his clues have values.
I agrée with the fact not all systems are for everybody, with all respects for the dozen system of Palestis for example it’s not working for me i don’t win with it and i don’t want to wait the extra virtual loss needed to play; it’s too time consuming and not my style. But for some members this system is an HG i respect that and the work done around this system. To finish this first long reply i’ve some open questions for you DrTalos :
- one day you will pass away like we will all do, even if you kept the secret for so long don’t be naive that your descendance will do the same or it will be just forgotten.
- if i got a real HG like you pretend i will write a book and probably make more money than i can make in casino and take more time with my family and benefit for that. Furthermore you can be famous and have maybe your statue in front of the Belaggio  :D  i’m kidding.
- Pursuing last point probably you could benefit more from your system building a team and a business around it.

These 3 open questions (everybody can think about that) and the answers you give to them can answer to the fact you have a real HG or not in my opinion in an intime conviction way.

Jerome.
« Last Edit: March 03, 2018, 09:00:44 PM by jerome26b »
 
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jerome26b

Re: The Talos debate
« Reply #33 on: March 03, 2018, 09:26:16 PM »
wow,

you raised an interesting point and in fact it’s something i was afraid at a moment when i said i’ve got a good system (and i still have it) some people can be so desperate they can do everything to catch you and try to get your system by violence. I’m active in other business even more tricky and for that reason many times i use a VPN. I don’t activate it all the time like here for example but it’s a very very good remark you did. This world is full of sick mind and envy can lead to the worse things.

jerome.
 

GIAJJENNO

Re: The Talos debate
« Reply #34 on: March 03, 2018, 09:40:17 PM »
Exactly. It is not conspicuous for casinos, where he plays, or the players in casinos who see he always win in 5 years??? He should be very very caruful since he posted his HG topic here. He said, he has afraid of changinging the roueltte rules, if he tell his system, but if he always win, like a computer, make a living from it, the cainos did not do anything until now? Really? Any players on the casinos, which he visited, did not pay attention for his system, and always winnings? Impossible. He should pay attention around his world.

If I would have a HG, I sometimes would make a direct losing sessions, of course.
 

MickyP

Re: The Talos debate
« Reply #35 on: March 03, 2018, 09:44:24 PM »
MrPerfect  I understand you being angry with me. Nobody likes to be put on the spot. Now you openly insult DrTalos and I.
I was right in my previous post about your motive but anyway ..... moving on.
 

DrTalos

Re: The Talos debate
« Reply #36 on: March 03, 2018, 10:05:14 PM »
This thing is getting out of hand. Now I answer those three question then I am out.
  I already answered 1 and 3. Check my post.
  Let say that I will try to keep it in my family. If I will not succeed I will write in my will to send it to Reyth and Mickyp.
  About the team I thought about it. I thought to have an entry fee for a selected number of player.... I guess is in talos dump thread.
  About a book. A succesfull one sells around 100.000 copies (unless is Harry Potter or the last on Trump) with your rights, around 8% on sell price, you get probably 20 thousand. And you have to pay taxes... No way is more profitable than my system.

 
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scepticus

Re: The Talos debate
« Reply #37 on: March 03, 2018, 10:16:08 PM »
Dr Talos
I agree with you that no one should share what the exact method is that they use but we can give pointers to it -as both you and I| have done.  Kav  and Mr Perfect are  prepared to share their  methods - for a price .That is their choice but I don‘t think they are in a position to criticise us .

Where I agree with kav is that a winning method is not  a Holy  Grail -  there is always Risk in gambling so there can never be a Risk -Free method- and that  is the reasoning behind an HG .Whether or not a winning method  is an HG  cannot be determined until your betting lifetime is finished   Dobbelsteen could claim to have found the Holy Grail because he wins consistently.  No one doubts that but it is possible that he could lose all of his winnings and more should a bad streak occur. He feels the risk is justified while I don’t . Different strokes for different folks.

As to your illustration .
You use “losing progressions”?
With Three levels  ? 
Why the sudden jump to 4 units at 2nd level after 4 losses?
Why not just 2 units ?
 
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Junscissorhands

Re: The Talos debate
« Reply #38 on: March 03, 2018, 11:34:45 PM »
HG does exist . As long as the European wheel contains 37 pockets and that the statistics remain the same after a complete spin cycle ,then you can win consistently coming out with profit even as little as +1 unit. Sometimes under 24 spins sometimes up to 185 spins.

Repeated many times, but random is limited in roulette. You don't have to be Einstein to beat it (no pun intended). Sometimes the most obvious what happens during the game is being overseen by most experienced players.

Golden rule remains play b+m and airball only, stay away from RNG at all costs.
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Scarface

Re: The Talos debate
« Reply #39 on: March 04, 2018, 01:08:25 AM »
Just one more final thought.  I get it that someone may not want to share their winning system with others here.  But what's the point in posting a long string of clues and riddles to figure out.  Either you wanna share, or not.  Meanwhile you have people jumping through hoops and kissing but for more clues.

Jerome said that he has spent countless hours trying to decipher these clues.  So have many others.  Why waste people's time.

I know I'm not gonna change DrTalos mind.  But to those reading this, I say find your own way.  If anything someone post here is useful to you, then great!  But don't follow blindly.  Be sure to thoroughly test your idea and follow your own path  :)
 
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Junscissorhands

Re: The Talos debate
« Reply #40 on: March 04, 2018, 01:26:44 AM »
You are right at one thing Drtalos could've kept it simple, just say a HG exists. Period. But there is nothing to convince the people here.  All the forummers play and test systems anyway.

Hope.
 

scepticus

Re: The Talos debate
« Reply #41 on: March 04, 2018, 01:50:48 AM »
Juniorscissirhands
If you know of an HG that exists why don't you share it with us ?
 

Junscissorhands

Re: The Talos debate
« Reply #42 on: March 04, 2018, 02:12:42 AM »


Scepticus after so many years being on roulette forums you know that the HG will never be found on any of these forums. The ones that have it , won't share it, makes perfect sense.

It's human nature. Also a game made by human can also be beaten by human. All games can be beaten.

I know what messages will follow after this post, stringing people along and such.

Some that have found an HG won't even mention it or be on forums.

 
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MickyP

Re: The Talos debate
« Reply #43 on: March 04, 2018, 05:38:19 AM »
Scepticus , you have a HG with your 9 blocks or am I wrong?

This is truly a sad day to see how poorly some of you have behaved.

 
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Fyodor

Re: The Talos debate
« Reply #44 on: March 04, 2018, 05:57:01 AM »
HG, should stand for "hopeful gambler" or "helpful guidance" as the last option mentioned, should be one of the principles of this type of forum, IMO!
 
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