New Forum Address: ROULETTELIFE.COM
  Update your Bookmarks

Author Topic: Christmas gift method of play!  (Read 1713 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Jesper

Christmas gift method of play!
« on: December 25, 2017, 02:50:40 PM »

Christmas Gift method of play!

We need preferable a NOZ table, and a table with 0.1 stakes.
Bankroll at least 1000. (100 Euro).
Practice in fun before even try it real.
We must know our methods before they are used.

First bet is on two dozen one chip each!

If that bet is won, session over restart.
If the bet is lost, next bet is 2 chips on one dozen.

If that bet is won, session ends, restart.
If the bet is lost, we move to double streets.

2 chips on one double street, one chip on three other double streets.
If we hit the highest bet, session over we are on plus.
If we hit on any other street with a bet, we win one chip, and
and continue if not new high.

If we hit an uncovered number, we move one chip from a bet
with one chip, to the high pile.

When all 5 chips are on the double street, and got a miss, the
bet of the five chips is moved to a quad, and three other quads
are betted with one chip each.

As soon we hit the highest pile, we are on new high.
If we hit a bet with one chip, we continue if not
on new high.
If we miss a spin, we move a chip to the highest pile.

When we have missed and the quad pile is alone, we move the
8 chips to a street. We add a chip to three other streets.
As soon we hit the highest pile we are on new high.
If we hit a street with one chip, we continue if not on
new high.
If we miss a spin, we move a chip to the highest pile.

As soon the street has 11 chips, and we just miss a spin,
we move the 11 chips to a split, and bet 6 more splits with
one chip.
We do as before, and as soon we are on new high we restart or stop.

If we still not win on splits, we have singles left.
We put the seventeen chips on a number and 18 numbers are
betted with one chip.

Precede as before, if we hit the high pile we are on plus.
If we hit a number with one chip, we win one and
continue if not on new high.
If we miss, we move a chip to the high pile.

We are allways on new high when and if we hit
the tall pile. We win a chip every time we
hit an other covered number.

I hope a have explained it so everyone understand the method,
otherwise welcome to ask.

If we win early we risk less and win less.
If we win late we risk some more, but win more.
We can win over 250 units in a session if it
reach streets and splits.
 
The following users thanked this post: kav, Jake007, december, Reyth, valter

Reyth

Re: Christmas gift method of play!
« Reply #1 on: December 26, 2017, 05:04:03 AM »
Awesome!  Thanks so much!!

Have you figured out the exact bankroll required for a full losing session?
 

Jesper

Re: Christmas gift method of play!
« Reply #2 on: December 26, 2017, 08:07:23 AM »
I estimate around 1000 units. But it depends, I  can theoretical think we never hit a chip, but that would be astronomical low probability.

I once ended up with 35 ships in a pile and 567 chips backward. This was on a zero wheel, using 1 cent, so in money it was not so much, and I recover the game using more play.

It happens we win 400 u in a session which ends on a straight up. I have done a lot of sessions, and won well, got some lucky there it was not too many spins before end with a pile of 35.

I have not found out the probability of a loss yet.
 
The following users thanked this post: Reyth

Reyth

Re: Christmas gift method of play!
« Reply #3 on: December 26, 2017, 08:37:46 AM »
Yes I agree.  Kind of dificult to figure out because of your genius delaying tactics! :D
« Last Edit: December 28, 2017, 06:31:25 AM by Reyth »
 
The following users thanked this post: december, Jesper, valter

Mike

Re: Christmas gift method of play!
« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2017, 01:55:45 PM »
We need preferable a NOZ table,

It's interesting to see what the chance of a straight loss playing this is on a table with and without a zero. By "straight loss" I mean no wins at all, so after every spin you either move a chip to the main pile or start a new bet on higher odds.

Without the zero, the chance is

P = 0.0000004285 or 1 in 2333637

On a standard table with one zero, the chance is

P = 0.0000007272 or 1 in 1375109

If you were dumb enough to play it on a double zero table, the chance is

P = 0.0000011869 or 1 in  842528

And some say the house edge doesn't matter.  ::)

Code: [Select]
const
  D = 38;
var
  p : double;
  i, N : integer;
begin
  p := (1-24/D) * (1-12/D);
  N := 6;
  for i := 1 to 4 do begin
    p := p * (1-N/D);
    inc(N,6)
  end;
  N := 4;
  for i := 1 to 4 do begin
    p := p * (1-N/D);
    inc(N,4)
  end;
  N := 3;
  for i := 1 to 4 do begin
    p := p * (1-N/D);
    inc(N,3)
  end;
  N := 2;
  for i := 1 to 7 do begin
    p := p * (1-N/D);
    inc(N,2)
  end;
  N := 1;
  for i := 1 to 19 do begin
    p := p * (1-N/D);
    inc(N,1)
  end;   
  writeln('P = ', p:10:10, ' or 1 in ', 1/p:7:0);
end.
 
The following users thanked this post: Reyth

Jesper

Re: Christmas gift method of play!
« Reply #5 on: December 28, 2017, 10:01:14 AM »
Normally the payout is  36 total on a number, and that is why we speak of Zero. 
There are at least one EU and one  AM roulette table on line, which pay fair, 37 or 38. So it is the pay out which change the figures dramatic.

What many EC-players sometimes think is the zero is very small obstacle. If they lose 10 times in a row in a martingale session, they blame  zero if it is showing in the 10 losing spins. The true is zero on that wheel would have been working against the player even if it was not showing. It is every spin  19 against the player and 18 for, whatever shows up.
« Last Edit: December 28, 2017, 10:03:29 AM by Jesper »
 
The following users thanked this post: Reyth

Jesper

Re: Christmas gift method of play!
« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2017, 05:01:19 PM »
I have spent some time running this method on a NOZ , there the stakes is 0.05 as minimum.

Got very well, a few ended with  about 100 to 300 units plus. The last I was using 0.1 and run it up to over 1000 units in profit (a bit over 100 Euro).

In the last 1491 sessions I lost in one (near 100  Euro). It is an incredible streak of win!!
« Last Edit: December 29, 2017, 05:06:22 PM by Jesper »
 
The following users thanked this post: Reyth

Jesper

Re: Christmas gift method of play!
« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2017, 07:22:29 AM »
I did another this morning. Trying to see how often the bets get high.  I won 104.5 Euro in 410 spins using 0.1 on a NOZ.

We see the first bet is on 2 doz, if hit gain 1. This happen 2/3 of the time.
Next step is a 1/3, and the  DS start with a 2/3, the quads are 1/2 the table, and the streets 1/3.

It is rather good chance of a hit in the beginning, and that makes the play a grinder. If we come up to using
split or singles we win on a hit much more. We are also down quite more, and things can get scary for a player
don't aware of what can happen if we try many times.

I was three times at the stage betting splits, which hits stand for about half the winnings, and the rest is taken near one by one on double doz and DS.
« Last Edit: December 30, 2017, 07:26:50 AM by Jesper »
 
The following users thanked this post: Reyth

Jesper

Re: Christmas gift method of play!
« Reply #8 on: December 31, 2017, 03:52:20 PM »
Some casinos have a much larger min bet bet on outside bets. Have seen  here in Sweden minimum is four times on outside bets.

To get the method working the ground bet must be twice the min bet for inside bets. And we replace the dozen with two double streets.

We have to check so we can at least 70 times the min bet before table max.

I think it is in any case best using on line our automatic roulette, as the minimum should be lower than most BM tables..
 

valvo

Re: Christmas gift method of play!
« Reply #9 on: January 01, 2018, 05:59:46 AM »
Fun system Jesper,

How do you pick your numbers?

Thanks

Val
 
The following users thanked this post: Reyth

Jesper

Re: Christmas gift method of play!
« Reply #10 on: January 01, 2018, 09:59:11 AM »
I use to bet on the location which have had more hits or there the last hit occurred.

If I have done the last bet on DS, the main quad bet include last fallen number.