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Sputnik

A different charting and tracking method - not as you know it!
« on: November 19, 2017, 07:33:11 PM »


Lets take a corner bet having 50% probability to hit within six attempts - equal a EC bet - that is the binomial probability. So say the corner hit once at attempt 2 and hit once more at attempt 5 then that would be the same thing as getting red twice in a row.
Now lets say you get a cycle with six attempts where the corner does not hit, then you get one black.

So when you chart and track the distribution for binomial probability positions equal a ec bet on the table. it might look like this:

2 5 X X X 2 X X X X 3 2 4 X 4 X X 2 X X X 6 X X 1 2 5 X X

Now to the selection process, one could place a bet for one corner with this example to repeat once.
For example corner hit at attempt 3 then during next cycle you place a bet at attempt 3 and if you want to cover more options you can bet wider spread, for example if you get a hit at attempt 1 & 3 then during next cycle you would bet at attempt 1 & 3, that is a pretty nice clustering solutions that can get deep into different ways to explore the selection process.

The other way is straight forward, you bet that there will be more hits within a cycle and get one side to hit several times, for example singles versus series of three methodology.

Cheers
 
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Third

Re: A different charting and tracking method - not as you know it!
« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2019, 09:29:03 AM »
The way I am doing it, is to bet a Dozen twice.  If I get a hit within 2 spins, than that is a hit on my EC (Black).  If I miss twice in a row, than my EC missed (Red).

So Sputnik (or anyone else that knows?), if I get a hit on the first of the two spins, do I still have to spin again before I can analyze for a bet or do I log the EC hit and can bet straight away after only the 1 spin?
 
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Sputnik

Re: A different charting and tracking method - not as you know it!
« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2019, 11:34:50 AM »


There is two ways doing this.

Write 1 and 2 if you hit within first or second attempts.

If you miss you wrote a cross.

In cycles of two attempts.

Then you get 1XX1X21X2X112X1

Advance:
Another way is to use singles versus series methodology.

If you get one hit, then i should get a hit within first and second attempts to get a serie.
If i don't get a hit then i have a single.
Then i need to wait for another hit to play to determine if there will be a serie or a single.

Cheers
 
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Third

Re: A different charting and tracking method - not as you know it!
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2019, 02:01:35 PM »
So 2X (LWLL) is stronger than 1X (WLL) because there is more of gap?
« Last Edit: April 18, 2019, 02:03:21 PM by Third »
 

Sputnik

Re: A different charting and tracking method - not as you know it!
« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2019, 02:25:48 PM »


I would say the strength comes from match calculation using probability where one single has the value of 1 and one series of two the value of 0 and series of three the value of 1.
You can implement that using binomial distribution with any amount of numbers.

Here is singles versus series using dozen 3
So when dozen 3 hit you play twice, if you win within two attempts you have a series.
If you lose two attempts you have a single.

3
2 L
3 W
1
3
1
2
3
1 L
3 W
1
1
2
1
3
3 W
1
1
2
3
2 L
3 W
3
1
3
2
1
3
3 W
2
3
3
1
2
3
1 L
1 L
2
1
1
3
2 L
2 L
2
2
2
1
1
1
1
1
2
1
2
3
3 W
3
2
2
1
2
1
3
1 L
3 W
2
2
1
1
2
3
1 L
3 W
2
1
2
2
2
2
1
2
1
2
3
1 L
2 L
1
2
3
3 W
3
1
3
3
1
3
2
2
1
1

Now if you play Red/Black as they come then the results look like this following dozen 3.

3 W

2 L
3 W

1 L
3 W

1 L
2 L

3 W

1 L
3 W

1 L
1 L

2 L
1 L

3 W

3 W

1 L
1 L

2 L
3 W

2 L
3 W

3 W

1 L
3 W

2 L
1 L

3 W

3  W

2 L
3 W

3 W

1 L
2 L

3 W

1  L
1  L

2 L
1 L

1 L
3 W

2  L
2  L

2 L
2 L

2 L
1 L

1 L
1 L

1 L
1 L

2 L
1 L

2 L
3 W

3  W

3 W

2 L
2 L

1
2
1
3
1
3
2
2
1
1
2
3
1
3
2
1
2
2
2
2
1
2
1
2
3
1
2
1
2
3
3
3
1
3
3
1
3
2
2
1
1
 
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Third

Re: A different charting and tracking method - not as you know it!
« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2019, 08:15:28 AM »
The actual profit here was only 10 units.  This example does not include the Banker commission.  This shows the total devastation that this feature causes; 17 units earned without it and only 10 with it. 

This is probably an exaggerated example because Banker bets dominated this session.
There are a total of 69 spins, only 28 Player and 41 Banker!

33 bets were placed and 17 wins achieved.  This is an example of betting with the trend for the win; it is glaringly obvious that my bet selection was nothing special and only following the trend saved me.

Banker
Player
Player
Banker
Player BET PLAYER (L) -1
Banker
Banker BET PLAYER (W) +1
Player
Player BET BANKER (W) +2
Banker
Player BET PLAYER (L) +1
Banker
Banker BET PLAYER (L) -1
Banker
Player BET BANKER (W) +3
Banker BET BANKER (L) +2
Player
Banker
Player BET BANKER (W) +4
Banker BET PLAYER (L) +3
Banker
Player BET BANKER (L) +1
Player BET BANKER (W) +5
Banker
Banker
Banker BET PLAYER (L) +4
Banker
Banker
Banker BET BANKER (L) +2
Player BET BANKER (W) +6
Banker
Player BET BANKER (W) +7
Banker
Banker
Player BET BANKER (L) +6
Player BET BANKER (W) +8
Banker
Player
Banker
Player BET BANKER (W) +9
Banker
Banker
Banker
Banker BET BANKER (W) +10
Banker BET BANKER (L) +9
Player BET BANKER (W) +11
Banker BET BANKER (L) +10
Player BET BANKER (W) +12
Banker
Banker
Banker
Player BET BANKER (W) +13
Banker
Player BET BANKER (L) +12
Player
Banker BET PLAYER (L) +10
Banker
Player BET BANKER (W) +14
Banker
Player BET BANKER (L) +13
Player BET BANKER (W) +15
Banker BET PLAYER (L) +14
Banker
Player BET BANKER (W) +16
Banker
Banker
Player BET BANKER (L) +15
Player BET BANKER (W) +17
Banker
« Last Edit: April 19, 2019, 08:33:21 AM by Third »
 
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Sputnik

Re: A different charting and tracking method - not as you know it!
« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2019, 02:07:16 PM »


I don't understand the Banker/Player example, this topic is about binomial probability.

Cheers
 

Third

Re: A different charting and tracking method - not as you know it!
« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2019, 02:50:36 PM »
Sorry wrong thread.  I was just experimenting and wanted to document and analyze what I did.  However, the same betting formula can be used binomially and I was just thinking about that a few moments ago.
« Last Edit: April 19, 2019, 02:54:13 PM by Third »