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#### Reyth

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« Reply #30 on: October 21, 2017, 11:18:26 AM »
If the analysis is simple, its a simple system.

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« Reply #31 on: October 21, 2017, 01:16:53 PM »

all 4 systems on their own are simple. For every system are different strategies. The united systems are not so simple. A strategy with anti, anti -anti numbers is unplayable on a real roulette. The idea is beautiful.

The Excel programs are less difficult than I taught.. What do you have learned from the analysis?

#### Reyth

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« Reply #32 on: October 21, 2017, 06:34:53 PM »
I learned that there is a DTOP for every type of system but before reaching that point the results will vary.

If I know that there is a 99%+ chance of getting a hit across all systems AND I know that there is a 99%+ chance of getting a hit across one system, that is very valuable information that I can use to place a bet.

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« Reply #33 on: October 22, 2017, 09:00:50 AM »
How do you compute the 99%+ hit chance of a 20 number bet. All 37 number bets have a DTOP. With a mixed bet the DTOP is depended of more than one number bet. The betting scheme as Martingale has also an influence on the DTOP.A strategy has no DTOP.

In my blog I describe why an event is special or particular. That feature is also caused by using the features of more than one system.

SSB is a method with a very particular strategy. This is the reason that SSB has  a very beautiful performance.

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#### Reyth

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« Reply #34 on: October 22, 2017, 09:15:37 AM »
There are two calculations:

1) Convergence -- This is the percentage chance of the mutual numbers on ALL FOUR systems hitting
2) Single System -- This is the chance of a particular SINGLE SYSTEM hitting

These calculations can be determined by tracking the gaps, which doesn't necessarily mean that the selections have not been hitting but that there is significant gapping overall

If Convergence hits, it doesn't matter which system we have chosen but if on top of that, we choose a system that has the highest SINGLE percentage chance of hitting, that is VERY powerful.

Since we will always have at least 12 mutual numbers (Convergence), the chances of all of them sleeping for a very long time is minimized but when we add 10-15 MORE numbers to that mix, it is practially impossible (when configured properly).
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« Reply #35 on: October 23, 2017, 09:08:31 AM »
Reyth you introduce new words. I think ,I am not the only one who do not understand.
It must be very easy to visualize with an example what you are meaning.
If you need an Excel sheet, I can try to write a program.
This forum is visited by a lot of quest with a restrictive knowledge of the English language.

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#### Reyth

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« Reply #36 on: October 23, 2017, 03:01:57 PM »
The overall concept is what I call "misdirection", where we are betting on one thing but we get the advantage of this other thing in the background.

There are 4 systems that share mutual numbers, the statistics on those mutual numbers are the key to 100% success because if any of those numbers hit, we win no matter which individual system we bet on.

So we track those numbers and we call it "Convergence".  There are multiple ways of tracking the numbers.  The simplest way is by just counting the most recent gap.

This is easy using Fun's chart, for example:

D   P   K C-R
20      x   x   x    0
3        x        x    1
23      x   x         2
24                      3
12                      4
24                      5
28           x         6
28           x         7
9       x    x          8 <=== 91.97% chance of hitting all 3
17     x    x   x

Here we have the column C-R; Convergence Rating.  What we are monitoring is a hit on all of the mutual numbers which will show as all systems getting a hit at the same time; "x x x".  We can see a gap of 8 spins, which in this case its based on 10 numbers and so its 91.97% chance of hitting on the next spin, as indicated above.

The second kind of statistical monitoring we can do is based on each individual system.  The simplest analysis is to just count the last gap.  In the above example, we would bet System K because it gapped for 7 spins.

So you see the misdirection?  We are betting System K with its own statistics but in the background we have the mutual numbers that are also favorable statistically.

This is a simple statistical example, gap analysis can go much deeper and system performance can be much more detailed but the overall concept is the same:

We have 4 different way of approaching the mutual numbers (4 different systems) and we choose the BEST way to do so by using the BEST individual system.
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« Reply #37 on: October 24, 2017, 10:35:28 AM »

You can use the DKP principle also for the ECs, dozens and columns. Here an example for the ECs . Such systems are more simple than the DKP system. With an experience eye the triggers are faster visable. The triggers are particular events. In my early roulette life I started with these phenomenon.
The blanc l and the XXX lines are on the table hotspots.

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« Reply #38 on: November 02, 2017, 09:08:05 AM »
Funtomas and Reyth you were both researching DKP and looking for the features of a system based on more than one system. What is the result of your research. Do you have discovered some particular features and what are your conclusions?
It is a pity that many discussions end without a finish.

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#### Sputnik

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« Reply #39 on: November 02, 2017, 05:20:38 PM »

quick note

DKP - Kavoras - Brett Morton and so on ...

All can become EC bet with hedge bet
Where there is strong existing EC selection method and where the hedge reduce loses or give a second chance with break even territorium

That is the working solution for all does methods - my opinion

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#### Reyth

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« Reply #40 on: November 02, 2017, 06:05:32 PM »
Ya I like the idea of mutual numbers and individual stats for each of the systems (which cover a different mix of numbers).  I think we can obtain some FANTASTIC statistics in our favor by monitoring all of these!

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« Reply #41 on: November 02, 2017, 07:15:58 PM »
Sorry Reyth, nothing new from me. Tried to mix the systems various ways, but it seems for me nothing is better than choosing only one of them depending on the last numbers.

#### Reyth

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« Reply #42 on: November 02, 2017, 07:26:22 PM »
For one thing, I think we need to expand our horizons a bit and try and lengthen both our progression and the size and number of our triggers.

We should be tracking the mutual numbers as one statistic, each individual system as another statistic and ALL of the numbers as the final statistic.

We need to decide what percentage chances to hit that we are willing to bet at and follow all the statistics to obtain it.

There is a phenomenon called Cumulative GappingTM, where even if a selection just got a hit, it is still more likely to get another, with chances greater than expectation.  This also can apply to our mutual numbers as well as the individual systems.
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#### MrPerfect.

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« Reply #43 on: November 02, 2017, 11:34:54 PM »
Looks like some like it complicated. Just by reading all this l realise that l wouldn't be able to keep a track of all this "TM" .
My old i-7 Intel black eddition with 32 gb of RAM would freeze. ... just wondering how you would keep a track of all this crap in casino?

#### Reyth

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« Reply #44 on: November 03, 2017, 01:43:36 AM »
I'm a RNG player.  I design computer software to track everything for RNG (or live online casino) play.