### Author Topic: Dobbelsteen`Blog  (Read 284602 times)

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#### dobbelsteen

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« Reply #750 on: July 12, 2019, 12:06:41 PM »

The 16 number bet with 5 corners  is a very bad system. I did some research with  an Excel program. The results are awful. With a start bet of 5 chips a progressive bet  selection is nearly impossible. Events of more than 10 no hits are not rare. Without a strategy only in the first 20 spins a profit and hit and run is possible.
Flat betting is very dull. Here the graphics of 6 random samples.

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#### Third

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« Reply #751 on: July 13, 2019, 03:37:03 AM »
Are you using the positive progression that Jesper recommended?  Basically "reverse D'alembert and hold"?

Just to be clear, if we get a hit on one of the bet numbers, any chips associated with the hit number receive +1 to their amounts.

#### dobbelsteen

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« Reply #752 on: July 13, 2019, 08:59:35 AM »
Jesper dit not describe a strategy. The possible long no hit streaks  make progression bet selection impossible for a start bet of 5 chips. I have tried Fibonacci . Here a small example of  my program.

#### Third

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« Reply #753 on: July 13, 2019, 09:51:29 AM »
He uses Reverse D'Alembert, without lowering.  He will lower when he feels like it but usually not until there is a significant profit.

#### Jesper

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« Reply #754 on: July 13, 2019, 01:36:56 PM »
I mention the fib, for aggressive play, but did not endorse it I add a chip on the winning number(s), no negative progressions. We have all different options, and that is OK I play only my money.

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#### dobbelsteen

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« Reply #755 on: July 14, 2019, 08:17:26 AM »
Jesper you published the 16 number bet with  5 corners as a system . Every player can play his own method.
There are infinite systems but the very most are not playable.

My conclusion is based on flat betting without a method. The result can be used to design  a playable method.

#### Jesper

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« Reply #756 on: July 14, 2019, 08:30:37 AM »
Why are some methods not playable? A ten step martingale is in you view a playable method?    There are players  not even think of methods and they use to not lose more than other.  We need to get our numbers regardless the method.  I think the turnover to possible win must be at a level, the odds against is at minimum possible, a win must recover losses.  At the end all method meet a stream it can not handle.   I never look at the past, and never read trends (at least not at my knowledge, may do some of it whiteout knowing it my self) and study graphs.  I think I can not win using flat bets, and try to get a good run using progression up as you hit.  That is of course not a sure method, there are not such.  I have got it good for long time, a few losses, which in some cases were quite large, but touch wood, it is still a plus.

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#### dobbelsteen

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« Reply #757 on: July 25, 2019, 02:22:42 PM »

The conditions of a playable methods are:
1 it must be very simple.
2 not too much chips to place.
3 easy betting
4 note of the past numbers not required.
5 easy control at the bankroll.
6 low risk.
7 not needed a computer device.

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#### dobbelsteen

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« Reply #758 on: July 25, 2019, 02:52:24 PM »

In the Netherlands we have only one gambling site , called OneTime. The Jackpot roulette system of one of the founders is often recommend but never analyzed. It is a neighbour bet system. His idea is that the last 4 numbers repeat very often. Very often the numbers next to these numbers fall. For tis reason  bet  two neighbour  numbers of the last 4 numbers

Basically it is a 20 number bet. I expect DTOP is about 200. A player play always a short run session. The result can be positive or negative. Without a strategy no succes is expected.
Neighbour methods are only recommend for high experience players with a large bankroll. The system is hard to design an Excel program but I solved this with a trick

This is a very playable system for  online roulette. An experience player can play the system with his own strategy.

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#### Astutillo

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« Reply #759 on: July 26, 2019, 07:50:52 AM »
Me too I'm testing this kind of method these days.
The last four numbers actually don't "repeat very often", but of course they do.
My test is betting the last 3 numbers spun waiting for at least 10 VL from the last repeater if the wheel is spinning few repeaters and many uniques, or betting continously if the number sequence provides lot of repeaters.

#### MickyP

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« Reply #760 on: July 26, 2019, 09:39:16 AM »
This falls in line with the hot zone testing and actual play that I have included in my approach. The core of this type of play is based on the wheel and the influences over selected sequences of spins. General mathematics on a 37 spin cycle reveal a mountain of information when tracked on the wheel.

To play this way, a player must "work" for the wins. He must apply both knowledge and experience to forecast a hit within three spins. There are magic numbers in roulette methods and with this that number is "3". If you miss in 3 spins then you need to redirect your game. Do not chase a loss and do not chase a win. Work for the win.

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#### UnlikelySam

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« Reply #761 on: July 26, 2019, 12:39:24 PM »
What I have noticed more frequently happening at a B&M scenario - the last 9 unique numbers tend to hit within the next few spins sometimes even on the 10th spin lol. However to play it safe and if one has the patience ; 3 or 4 spins could be played out virtually then play it for real so possibly it'll be 12 -13 uniques but be warned lol it could be a wait as the numbers could repeat way before that ( best to observe a couple of tables simultaneously playing out virtual losses). A progression is at times not even needed ; flat betting if you are content with the profit margin.

#### Jesper

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« Reply #762 on: July 26, 2019, 01:21:52 PM »
Yes be warned,if this really works, the casinos should not do so well.   It is interesting to follow the game, my conclusion is it is very hard to "predict", we have some stat, it tells some, but we never know.

#### UnlikelySam

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« Reply #763 on: July 26, 2019, 01:55:40 PM »
Jesper you remind me of things that have been running through my mind more so these few days ; i have lost count the many systems played they all won to an extent and then lost (run from hell). I even started questioning if everything is a pure lucky streak ; if it is then I gotta surf that wave till  it is no more. Just yesterday I watched 2 wheels next to each other spit out identical dozens and was waiting to see when it stops ; it did after 5 spins ; some weird stuff happens it goes without saying - then 29 hit 4 times in a row followed by 3 zeros...

There are some scenarios that are real system killers that's why Dobbelsteen emphasises one should have a strategy I guess a counteracting measure in place. Gamblers Fallacy (GF) call it what you may ; every system tanks eventually we just gotta enjoy it while it lasts and have a recovery in mind when it fails. Casinos will never go broke just look at the number of people who couldn't care less just scattering the chips all over the table like pizza toppings it's amazing to see even 1 winning chip on the table after the wheel is spun. I watch and watch how many chips are raked into the house's pocket and most people are totally oblivious to that fact or simply do not give a damn and continue to throw stacks of cash on the table. Without GF what is really left honestly... How much will a strategy help against totally "random" events... As most will agree MM is Key I think I have said before...
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#### Jesper

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« Reply #764 on: July 26, 2019, 03:34:45 PM »
Wooww!  If I when play parlay, I would love it, and I have the courage to be bold, a loss is one.  Today I went to EC, got problems. I bet just one, and if a hit and I am on debt, I martingale grand, to make recover short. This play cost 1 unit a spin until a win.  I went 4034 spins and a few lucky recover, but still I needed  10 wins in a row, which come at last. Just think  1,3,7,15,31,63,127, 255, 511, 1023. That will come soon or later, the session had a win of a few, but near run from hell.    High bet, but from bankroll just one a spin.   We see funny things, and why not use it.  I try sometimes to parlay a single.

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