### Author Topic: Dobbelsteen`Blog  (Read 187554 times)

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#### dobbelsteen

##### Re: Dobbelsteen`Blog
« Reply #720 on: May 08, 2019, 10:40:58 AM »
Mickp your approach is nearly the same as my program .My average was 6.48 from 20 trials.

US a final 789 is a 9 number bet. The statistic chance is 1 to 4

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#### MickyP

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« Reply #721 on: May 08, 2019, 11:57:07 AM »
I simply took the claim in the video I attached and tested it against 100 spins. I know you test things extensively and I do take your words as fact buuuuut I still test for myself anyway. It's good for learning and understanding.

I'm looking at the video method and trying to work out different ways to use the info in a new method. Fascinating Game!

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#### dobbelsteen

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« Reply #722 on: May 13, 2019, 08:43:39 AM »

The final game.
Here my new video for the finals.The finals are very suitable fo a strategy. A very useful tool is the Excel program to record the sleepers of the 10 finals. The sleepers are the triggers for the strategy.You can easy switch between the sleepers. Next to this program a general record sheet is very useful.

Do you play roulette on internet these record sheets are indispenseble.

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#### dobbelsteen

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« Reply #723 on: May 17, 2019, 03:20:59 PM »
Hereby a new 4 number bet strategy. The triggers are the dozens and the columns

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#### Third

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« Reply #724 on: May 17, 2019, 10:14:01 PM »
Nice Dobble!

#### fiben7

##### Re: Dobbelsteen`Blog
« Reply #725 on: May 20, 2019, 09:30:32 PM »
If your bet selection can win with flat betting, then you don't need a system. Just bet the "magical bet selection" again and again. However this seems much more unrealistic than a winning roulette strategy.

I copy what I posted in another forum:
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Roulette is a game, constructed to give the advantage to the casino.
In order to be able to compete with this we must use every little option we have at our disposal.
Entry and exit points, observation, bet selection and of course money management are options and tools in our quest to win.
It would be stupid not to use each and every one of them to create a valid strategy.

Flat betting only means that you think your bet will come more often than theoretically expected. This is a huge unprovable claim! (not to use another word)
Furthermore if there was a system that wins flat betting, it can easily be turned into a system that wins even more by using the proper progression.

Roulette is a hard game as it is. Use all your options in your fight. You have not the luxury to dismiss the flexibility and adaptability offered by the proper money management.

"[size=78%]Flat betting only means that you think your bet will come more often than theoretically expected. This is a huge unprovable claim! (not to use another word)"[/size]

[size=78%]No, flat betting means that even if withing the next 100 spins there will be 48 black, 48 red and 2 Zeros, i.e. the theoretical expectation, you have a model to predict that the blacks will come as a trend - say 37 blacks in the first 50 spins - and then the reds will come as a trend - 37 reds in the last 50 spins. Now if you follow the trend, i.e. you keep on betting on the previous colour, then you flat betting system would be highly profitable evem though the bets did not come more often than theoretically expected.[/size]

[size=78%]Using progession on the above would probably make a more profitable system, but progression would not be the reason for profitability; follow the colour trend would! [/size]
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#### fiben7

##### Re: Dobbelsteen`Blog
« Reply #726 on: May 21, 2019, 06:49:20 AM »
Apologies, mobile edit mixed it up

No, flat betting means that even if within the next 100 spins there will be 49 black, 49 red and 2 Zeros, i.e. the theoretical expectation, you have a model to predict that the blacks will come as a trend - say 37 blacks in the first 50 spins - and then the reds will come as a trend - 37 reds in the last 50 spins.

Now if you follow the trend, i.e. you keep on betting on the previous colour, then you flat betting system would be highly profitable even though the bets did not come more often than theoretically expected.Using progession on the above would probably make a more profitable system, but progression would not be the reason for profitability; follow the colour trend would!

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#### dobbelsteen

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« Reply #727 on: May 21, 2019, 08:11:24 AM »

For the bet selection Fibonacci, D`Alembert and Le Bouchere I have done an Excel research  for short sessions. The results prove that they have no effect on the final balance. They ended all with a loss of about 2,7%.

The Martingale bet principle is totally different. Without limits it has a positive win expectation.The SSB principle uses the features of a strategy, system and  Martingale. Basically  you bet on an odd with a statistic chance of about 1/512.The particular feature is ,you can play SSB continuous. After every hit you start again with a new trigger.

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#### dobbelsteen

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« Reply #728 on: May 23, 2019, 02:47:11 PM »

This video is the 4 number bet with the trigger of  the last two spins. The minimum bet is only 2 chips. This makes it possible to increase the bet after a long loss streak. In spite the strong behavior of the RNG the video show a beautiful profit. The note sheet makes betting easier.

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#### dobbelsteen

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« Reply #729 on: May 27, 2019, 01:41:38 PM »
For the roulette experts and the Excel nerts I have a particular dozen system. I bet  a dozen will repeat. It is impossible to win the loss/win  ratio is vey high. Every trial give the same results.

Here 3 random samples from 40 spins.

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#### fiben7

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« Reply #730 on: May 27, 2019, 02:06:22 PM »
If "follow the trend" does not win, then maybe mean reversion looks better

i.e. if Dozen 1 appears, then next bet is Dozen 2 and Dozen 3.

According to my data, the latter is not working that nice itself, however if combined with other Trend/Mean Reversion patterns of other Bet Types, then the combined system starts looking way better!
« Last Edit: May 27, 2019, 02:37:55 PM by fiben7 »

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#### dobbelsteen

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« Reply #731 on: May 27, 2019, 02:16:14 PM »
the attended observer could have discovered a small mistake. Number 13 is coded as 3 but that does not influence the conclusion.

Tomorrow I will publish some examples with another flat bet system.

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#### Astutillo

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« Reply #732 on: June 07, 2019, 10:14:31 AM »
I post here just because this thread is focusing on finals these days.

I'm also working on a system with 2 finals and testing it also on RNG.

Today final # 5 (5-15-25-35) miss for 86 spins!

Have you ever seen this happening on a real wheel? Can this event be considered "normal" although rare?
« Last Edit: June 07, 2019, 10:21:36 AM by Astutillo »

#### Stratege

##### Re: Dobbelsteen`Blog
« Reply #733 on: June 07, 2019, 11:47:02 AM »
A small calculation: 36/4 numbers = 9 ; and 86/9 = 9.5 cycles without winning. This corresponds to 19 spins without winning on EC (this happens 1 time on a little more than 500 000 spins but we don't know which side of the EC). Or it would make a dozen absent 28.5 times. These calculations don't count zero. Your 86 launched are exceptional but not impossible !
« Last Edit: June 07, 2019, 11:48:57 AM by Stratege »

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#### dobbelsteen

##### Re: Dobbelsteen`Blog
« Reply #734 on: June 08, 2019, 07:51:54 AM »
I agree. The number final is a 4 number bet. DTOP is very large. For low number bets the risk is very. In general my advice is ,start the wagering after a 3 times  sleeping cycle. In this case you had to wait for 30 sleeping spins.

There is no difference between the statistic expectations of the outcome of a real roulette or a pRNG.

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