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GIAJJENNO

Re: NEW SYSTEM: SINGLE DOZEN
« Reply #1215 on: June 12, 2019, 03:42:33 PM »
A long time the website marked, that starteing to download, but hasnt started, because my Chrome, or Mozilla, Opera etc wrote, that the download aborted/breaked.

Third, would not be a good idea that you could send me the file? It seems I will never download from this website.
 
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GIAJJENNO

Re: NEW SYSTEM: SINGLE DOZEN
« Reply #1216 on: June 12, 2019, 04:59:01 PM »
And writes this when I open to a new site.

 
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Mako

Re: NEW SYSTEM: SINGLE DOZEN
« Reply #1217 on: June 12, 2019, 05:10:02 PM »
After any palestis method trigger

I play 6 times

10 10 15
20 20 30

If i lose, i prefer to wait the session ends. It may take 5B2B session doesnt matter.
After it ends. I search a new palestis method trigger and re-start again.
I accept the loss, but if your bankroll sufficent to cover it you may raise the progression as a ladder to cover it.
Even after losing 2 pocket 3s which is 6 times. Just see what will happend if the third pocket i mean third 3 times losses too. It's almost 9 times + first 3 = 12 times and you can also chase and bet against 4B2B losses at the same time. If it goes 5B2B losses which 12+3 i prefer to bet on numbers individually.
By using this version you can play 6 times after trigger and also by skipping 3rd step you can chase 4th and 5th B2B losses betting against them. I called WIN & WIN to this way.

Cheers,
Optimistique

Hmm, that's interesting.  When I tested previously, I found that going to a fourth betting spin after a trigger was a bit of a wash...it wasn't a negative per se, but it didn't help either.  I discarded it because the system was as effective with three betting spins per trigger versus four. 

But going to six, that's interesting because you DO get a lot of hits in the 4/5/6 range.  As third would say, the probability of a hit keeps climbing of course the more you spin for it, as does the chance that the dozen has gone to sleep and it's not going to hit for 10+ spins unfortunately. 

So you play a single trigger, six betting spins, and if it loses you have two options:

1. Accept the loss, find a new trigger, start over at the same 10-10-15 / 20-20-30 and play long enough that you get a run of wins to recover.  No progression, just grind it out until positive.

or

2. Increase the progression after the 6-spin trigger loss, but stay on that trigger watching how it does for the third set of three spins (which you're not betting, just watching). 

If it loses again during that watching, which is now nine spins where the Y dozen has missed in a row (B2B2B), you hop back on it for another six betting spin attempts at a high enough progression to cover the first six spins you lost.  And for the final three spins of that second attempt (which would be 15 total misses in a row of the Y dozen, or the mythical 5x B2B losses in a row), you bet the inside numbers instead.

Good thinking Optmistique, both ways to play seem to have great advantages for someone playing "Harry style" as Third said, where you've only got one table to play at and have to find a way to make it work practically for time.

 
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Re: NEW SYSTEM: SINGLE DOZEN
« Reply #1218 on: June 12, 2019, 07:33:07 PM »


Here is an another explanation how i play lately:

Let's say 10 20 22 12 23 8 25 17 33 8 13 2 last 12 numbers on the marquee.

I have 6 different triggers to play on this scenario.

10 20 22 we bet first dozen and 12 is a win at first step of 6 times long progression.
Now i look at the marquee and no need to wait any new 3 numbers

my new trigger is 20 22 12 and i bet first dozen again after 23 lost i continue to progression and bet the same dozen again and 8 is a win.

Now i look at the marquee again and see 12 23 8 and i decide to bet on 2nd dozen. 25 is a lost and 17 is a win again.

8 25 17 NO TRIGGERS so wait for a spin to search a trigger and 33 comes

25 17 33 is our new trigger. We bet at the 2nd dozen. 8 is a loss and after that 13 comes and we win.

33 8 13 has no triggers we wait for a new spin and our new number is 2

8 13 2 it's a trigger and we bet on 2nd dozen.

I try to make it easier to understand easily how i play.

We gain it from demand. I mean we have lots of options in that kind of play.

Let's say we bet on first 2 steps which is 6 times progression and lost it.

NO BET at third set of new play which is 6+3=9 times

If it ends with a win it means the session ends for us and re-start again and search a new trigger
BUT if there is no win at our Virtual Play of 3rd set. It means it goes to 4B2B loses and we can bet on inside numbers 3 times and if it is also no win at 3 set of progression (which is 12 times)
We climb the 5th step and now we should be more agressive on inside numbers again.

Hope it helps
Feel free to ask.

Cheers,
Optimistique
« Last Edit: June 12, 2019, 07:35:13 PM by Optimistique »
 
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palestis

Re: NEW SYSTEM: SINGLE DOZEN
« Reply #1219 on: June 12, 2019, 07:57:54 PM »
That's basically how HARRYJ (the designer of this system) was playing it. His reasoning was going with the flow. But his progression was very mild. He was counting on the high frequency of wins to make the profit rather than thru a risky progression if the first few steps did not win.
There are many ways to adapt this system to everyone's personal style.
 
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Re: NEW SYSTEM: SINGLE DOZEN
« Reply #1220 on: June 12, 2019, 08:10:43 PM »
That's basically how HARRYJ (the designer of this system) was playing it. His reasoning was going with the flow. But his progression was very mild. He was counting on the high frequency of wins to make the profit rather than thru a risky progression if the first few steps did not win.
There are many ways to adapt this system to everyone's personal style.

I don't know HarryJ or any other person share similiar way of playing your method.
My point is to wait new 3 spins is just a clue of a perfectionist personality.
I believe roulette has no pattern like waiting new set of 3 spins.
It's like a high-speed flowing river or a big wave which we try to stand on our board and try to surf on it.

I agree that progression is a key. I created a different progression for this way. Still testing it.

There are many ways to play your genius method. 
Thank you again.

All the best,
Optimistique.
 
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palestis

Re: NEW SYSTEM: SINGLE DOZEN
« Reply #1221 on: June 12, 2019, 08:36:27 PM »
HARRYJ was a member here but unfortunately he passed away last year. He contributed a lot of knowledge to the forum. Very experienced player and a good person.
In fact a then member Reuth, copied all his posts and made a roulette bible out of it. ( and he named it Dirty Harry).
Yes roulette is unpredictable and patterns can be deceiving. But I can't turn a blind eye on the max. B2B losses that have been established thru extensive tests.
This is my guide I base my actions on.
That is not a coincidence, and it's not going to change in future spins, unless a record is broken which in itself is extremely  rare.  My personal style with VL's and other defenses, comes from the fact that when I lose 2 spins I go paranoid. Probably because of the distance I have to travel to return from the casino. With plenty of time to reflect all the negative thoughts that go thru my mind if I lost.
Hopefully I can change this attitude with the casino near me. I lose plenty of opportunities to win a lot, but at the same time I don't lose much when I lose. Just my time.

« Last Edit: June 12, 2019, 08:44:16 PM by palestis »
 
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Re: NEW SYSTEM: SINGLE DOZEN
« Reply #1222 on: June 12, 2019, 08:52:00 PM »
Let's say we bet on first 2 steps which is 6 times progression and lost it.

NO BET at third set of new play which is 6+3=9 times

If it ends with a win it means the session ends for us and re-start again and search a new trigger
BUT if there is no win at our Virtual Play of 3rd set. It means it goes to 4B2B loses and we can bet on inside numbers 3 times and if it is also no win at 3 set of progression (which is 12 times)
We climb the 5th step and now we should be more agressive on inside numbers again.

Honestly I completely miss what you are talking about here. My fault. But I can't understand how you actually play here.
When exactly do you start your virtual play?
What you mean with "third set"?
When you talk about B2B losses you mean spins or whole triggers lost?

Sorry but I'm both intrigued and confused
 
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Re: NEW SYSTEM: SINGLE DOZEN
« Reply #1223 on: June 12, 2019, 08:55:16 PM »
HARRYJ was a member here but unfortunately he passed away last year. He contributed a lot of knowledge to the forum. Very experienced player and a good person.
In fact a then member Reuth, copied all his posts and made a roulette bible out of it. ( and he named it Dirty Harry).
Yes roulette is unpredictable and patterns can be deceiving. But I can't turn
This is my guide I base my actions on.
That is not a coincidence, and it's not going to change in future spins, unless a record is broken which in itself is extremely  rare.  My personal style with VL's and other defenses, comes from the fact that when I lose 2 spins I go paranoid. Probably because of the distance I have to travel to return from the casino. With plenty of time to reflect all the negative thoughts that go thru my mind if I lost.
Hopefully I can change this attitude with the casino near me. I lose plenty of opportunities to win a lot, but at the same time I don't lose much when I lose. Just my time.

Sorry to hear that about HarryJ. I remember that i heard his name but don't now he passed away. I'll check his contributions.

I know you mention about the distance from casino to your home and it's reasonable to play your way and I DO RESPECT to the way of your playing. I'm sure you calculated and tested many things.

I guess your point of similiarties about Harry J and my systems that backing few spins and search new trigger from there but my point is not that actually.

I think roulette is full of suprises and as you i don't like bad roulette suprises so that to cut it short. I turn to whole roulette ocean to 6 times progression.

2 set of 3s are enough for me to make profit.

Let's suppose we have 1700 units bankroll

Divide it 10 and we have 10 piece 170 units bankroll.

And the progression is

Bet 10 for first spin
Bet 10 for second spin
Bet 20 for third
Bet 30 for 4th
Bet 40 for 5th
BET 60 for 6th

End if it goes to 7th step we accept lose.

According to my test the frequency of my system is worth to try so far.

This is just an option of a progression trial.
You can test varies progressions.

I've been still testing some other progressions.

Stop loss is 6 times progression
To determine a logical daily profit rate is the real question.
And only the frequency of winning rate could determine the favoriable %.

Cheers,
Optimistique
 
 
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Re: NEW SYSTEM: SINGLE DOZEN
« Reply #1224 on: June 12, 2019, 09:05:58 PM »
Let's say we bet on first 2 steps which is 6 times progression and lost it.

NO BET at third set of new play which is 6+3=9 times

If it ends with a win it means the session ends for us and re-start again and search a new trigger
BUT if there is no win at our Virtual Play of 3rd set. It means it goes to 4B2B loses and we can bet on inside numbers 3 times and if it is also no win at 3 set of progression (which is 12 times)
We climb the 5th step and now we should be more agressive on inside numbers again.

Honestly I completely miss what you are talking about here. My fault. But I can't understand how you actually play here.
When exactly do you start your virtual play?
What you mean with "third set"?
When you talk about B2B losses you mean spins or whole triggers lost?

Sorry but I'm both intrigued and confused

Probably it's my fault sorry for my english.

My point is my system is only betting on 2steps.
It is totally 6 times betting 3+3
2 triggers totally
and accept the loss

Your mention about VL is an option people prefer to chase back to back losses as palestis did ordinaryly.

I just ignore after betting on 2 step and if it ends loss.
Different from palestis i do not start to bet on 3rd step
just wait what will happend at third step.
If it wins, i re-start searching new trigger BUT it also lost as first and second steps.
It means 3 + 3 + 3 times lost
I start to bet at there to BUT on inside numbers.
If it also lose at there which is total 3 + 3 + 3 + 3
it's total 12 times lose
In  the light of palestis test 5B2B lose is rare SO we should bet more agressive on inside numbers.

But it's an option. As i said before i call it WIN & WIN or ALL THE WAY WIN

You may prefer only playing 6 times which is 2 triggers 3 + 3 ONLY
or you may continiue playing by skipping the third step.

Hope it's more clear than other one.

Please feel free to ask.

All the best,
Optimistique
 
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palestis

Re: NEW SYSTEM: SINGLE DOZEN
« Reply #1225 on: June 12, 2019, 11:11:59 PM »
Bet 10 for first spin
Bet 10 for second spin
Bet 20 for third
Bet 30 for 4th
Bet 40 for 5th
BET 60 for 6th
So you play 2 triggers 3 steps each. Total 6 betting steps. And you stop if you lose all 6 steps.
If you keep on winning do you continue playing to win more?
And if you accept the loss do you find it easy to recover the 170 units next time you play?
Some betting steps win more than other steps. (Usually the 1st and 3rd step in that type of progression).

« Last Edit: June 12, 2019, 11:14:26 PM by palestis »
 

Re: NEW SYSTEM: SINGLE DOZEN
« Reply #1226 on: June 13, 2019, 04:55:20 AM »
Bet 10 for first spin
Bet 10 for second spin
Bet 20 for third
Bet 30 for 4th
Bet 40 for 5th
BET 60 for 6th
So you play 2 triggers 3 steps each. Total 6 betting steps. And you stop if you lose all 6 steps.
If you keep on winning do you continue playing to win more?
And if you accept the loss do you find it easy to recover the 170 units next time you play?
Some betting steps win more than other steps. (Usually the 1st and 3rd step in that type of progression).

Yes, one of my favourite progression so far is that.
Yes i accept all losses and keep playing until reach my goal.

Here is an example of a rutin session:



 

Baelog

Re: NEW SYSTEM: SINGLE DOZEN
« Reply #1227 on: June 14, 2019, 02:28:27 AM »
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Here is an example of a rutin session:





What happened? I can’t see the session.
 

GIAJJENNO

Re: NEW SYSTEM: SINGLE DOZEN
« Reply #1228 on: June 14, 2019, 03:32:31 AM »
It was a very short session of his life! Zero spins needed.
 

Re: NEW SYSTEM: SINGLE DOZEN
« Reply #1229 on: June 14, 2019, 09:30:43 AM »
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Here is an example of a rutin session:





What happened? I can’t see the session.

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