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#### Reyth

##### Re: A message for thanks to Charles win3million
« Reply #30 on: January 30, 2017, 10:28:34 PM »
Charles and his cwb was such a fraud.

You will have to pardon me if I look upon this statement with somewhat of a jaundiced eye as you have a large bias and I don't need a team of highly trained experts to collect any more data to be certain of it.

In other words, I expect you to say the same thing about any system.

#### Jesper

##### Re: A message for thanks to Charles win3million
« Reply #31 on: January 31, 2017, 07:55:55 AM »
None will win a million with betting small, and using a bet which is sure. There are no such bets. Winning a million is possible if we risk large money.  Theoretical we can win all our bets, by luck then, but that is astronomical small chance.

The martingaler losing on the 14th step, COULD have parlayed opposite.

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#### Bayes

##### Re: A message for thanks to Charles win3million
« Reply #32 on: January 31, 2017, 02:59:19 PM »
We are speaking of such a winning stability and consistency that can make + after every 100 placed bets.
This is impossibe if you haven t found a real winner.

No it isn't.

All I'm saying is, I wouldn't put a deposit on the Ferrari just yet. It's hard to put a number on what's a "safe" number of spins to test over without knowing your coverage of the wheel; it could be anything from about 2000 if you're betting on 30 numbers to over 150,000 if betting on one number. Of course, the best way to be sure is to find a mathematical proof, but that's impossible, given the assumptions of the game.

If you've been researching this for 8 years you must have been through an awful lot of bet selections, so sooner or later you're going to find one which appears to be a winner, just by chance.

Anyway, good luck.

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##### Re: A message for thanks to Charles win3million
« Reply #33 on: January 31, 2017, 04:50:49 PM »
Yes, the "makes a profit within every batch of 100 spins" is where some extra giggles happen.

#### Jesper

##### Re: A message for thanks to Charles win3million
« Reply #34 on: January 31, 2017, 05:29:58 PM »
Ha, sometimes it can go strange. Not only connection problem or throwing outs. An unbelievable row of losses, at a magnitude, many would think it is a set up.

Several hundred spins to turn it back, and end with a profit of a few ships. It was centt play so I had no real worry.  Profit of every 100 spin is to just forget, it can takes weeks sometimes, before we catch up. Win is possible but not easy as a "bet" or was the bet in the "bet".

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#### TheGenner

##### Re: A message for thanks to Charles win3million
« Reply #35 on: January 31, 2017, 09:05:08 PM »
This forum wasn't around when that scam was going on. A few of the other ones still are. So I find it odd that you come here looking for Charles and you aren't asking around any of the other older forums. Strange that!

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#### scepticus

##### Re: A message for thanks to Charles win3million
« Reply #36 on: February 01, 2017, 01:42:35 AM »
Duncan
Why do you think you have sussed Charles' method if you haven't contacted him since your discovery ?

#### Duncan

##### Re: A message for thanks to Charles win3million
« Reply #37 on: February 01, 2017, 07:20:35 AM »
In his clues he has something that verifies the bet if you found it.

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#### Trilobite

##### Re: A message for thanks to Charles win3million
« Reply #38 on: February 01, 2017, 10:31:53 PM »

#### Jake007

##### Re: A message for thanks to Charles win3million
« Reply #39 on: March 06, 2017, 03:47:48 AM »
Just common sense... why would someone with a winning system sell it for \$500, then scam everyone and then disappear?

I have never heard of the "win 3 million" site until now... sounds interesting enough to research. Here is an archive page. It already sounds SCAMMY

http://web.archive.org/web/20080729014043/http://www.win3million.com/

EDIT: my question is... was it a straight up scam to take \$500 from thousands of people? Thats a lot of money. Or... was there something to be learned from whatever "Charles" was saying.
« Last Edit: March 06, 2017, 03:58:44 AM by Jake007 »

#### Jake007

##### Re: A message for thanks to Charles win3million
« Reply #40 on: March 06, 2017, 04:28:34 AM »

I am posting the text from "Charles" website since its difficult to read... (green background with blue lettering)...

http://web.archive.org/web/20080729014141/http://www.win3million.com/THE_ROULETTE_BET.html

HOW TO FIND A CONSISTENT WINNING ROULETTE BET

I REVEAL A SECRET KNOWN ONLY TO VERY FEW PROFESSIONAL PLAYERS
ALLOW ME TO SHOW YOU WHERE TO LOOK

YOU CAN SEARCH EVERY LIBRARY OR WEBSITE IN THE WORLD....AND THIS PAGE IS THE ONLY PLACE....WHERE YOU WILL FIND THE ANSWER

THIS SITE IS NOT FREE...YOU HAVE TO GIVE SOMETHING TO
CHILDREN IN NEED....ONLY AFTER I MAKE YOU A WINNER!
THATS THE DEAL

Allow me to tell you once and forever…you can… find a bet that will beat the game of roulette.
Allow me tell you once and forever…you can only… find a way to beat the Game…not the Odds.
There are a few bets you can engineer that will give you a profit every time you play a session of roulette. My Trust members and I only use the one bet I developed 13 years ago. There are a small number of bets in use by professional players that will give you a profitable and consistent income. Finding them, or having the knowledge to engineer one is the difficult thing.

Totally honest people and mathematicians who fail to find a way, say it cannot be done. They have been looking at beating the odds. Roulette is a casino owners dream game. The odds as one would normally look at for any betting cannot be beaten. It is the game itself where I and the other professional players have found the answer.

Unfortunately there is much confusion about roulette. I will now try to cut through the absolute rubbish you have been subject to by amateurs and losers who do not understand the game, or the fact the game is random, is actually to your advantage.

You must understand one important fact before you proceed. You will never find a roulette bet that will win every bet you place. You can find a bet that will win more bets or money than losing ones. So for example if you win 3 bets out of every 5 you place at even odds you are winning at a rate of one in five or two in ten. Therefore to win twenty x your bet you would need to plan a session of one hundred bets. Different odds mean a different calculation.

There are numerous reasons why almost 99.9% of people lose…and only one reason why professional people win. Professionals have a formula to beat the game, which they work with and make more winning bets than losing ones…. that’s it.  It is that simple.

It is of course not that “simple” to find a “bet” that fits into a “formula” to give you a “consistent winning bet”.  The bottom line here of course, is it possible for an ordinary person to find it?  Yes of course….the big…IF is,  are you prepared to put some effort into learning.  If you are one of the thousands of “expert losers” I have met. You will have to forget all the crap you know, and start afresh.
Do not proceed until you understand each section.
There are of course the millions of losers, and those who bet who will say no. There are of course me and my “Trust” of 64 members…and about 200 more roulette professional players in the world who are living proof…it is a resounding yes!

I am going to tell you how they, all and I found what I call “a consistent winning bet”.
We found it by looking at the “Game” not the “Odds”, and used a great deal of “lateral thinking” in the research. I was not the greatest of thinkers and found mine by default.
I do, however lucky I may have been…know that of all the winning bets, mine is far superior to all the others in respect of not only simple to use, but the most profitable of all. I am not in the habit of bragging…that is simply a fact.  It may well be beaten on performance one day, by one of you.

Many people included the over-educated do not understand this concept of thinking. You can get many books on this subject and study. Please allow me to show you some “shortcuts” the average person can use without years of brain training

First you must know all there is to know about “roulette” and all the “conventional” bets, the table, and wheel layout etc. If, as most punters in the casinos, you don’t know the basics, you deserve to lose. Quite simple…if you’re not totally professional, you are the mug punter casinos love.

To find a consistent winning bet you must forget all about “the maths” of roulette. You must forget all the silly “systems” that abound. You must apply the finest asset man has available to him. It is pure commonsense.  Maths of course will come to play its part when testing the consistency and profitability of the bet you formulate. If it is consistent and profitable…the odds have been taken care of.

Now you see that trying to beat the odds will only distract you from trying to find a bet that beats the game. Beating the game?  Simple…lets look at the game properly, and what happens in roulette that is totally different to any other casino game.

Here are the three main “Traps” and why, unless you can beat them…you cannot win. To beat them you must understand them.  No “shortcuts” here, if you don’t learn…you will not earn. Roulette players will not accept that all they do is…guess!  But that’s a fact! They are the world’s biggest losers…, which open the cash door to professional players.

Roulette produces random results:
1.  Roulette  series results
2.  Roulette  mixed results
3.  Roulette  cross combination results

I could go on and on, but understanding those three will lead you to finding a consistent winning bet. There are only a few that will give you a profit return to secure your wealth for life. Some are of course better than others in percentage returns. Professional players or city money dealers will know that even a small but consistent margin can make a fortune if exploited regular.

Lets continue with proven facts like this. Lets deal with each of those “killer” traps.

SERIES RESULTS:
Because roulette is random it means that anything can happen and at anytime within the parameters of the game. Because it is random it throws up colours, numbers, dozens, even bets, and blocks in short and longer series. This results in a “pattern” that you may recognise. A good lesson to look at these patterns, because it will teach your brain how to think about roulette.

However you will not find a consistent winning bet within any of the series simply because you will never know when the change comes. This kind of bet is often touted by the roulette system sharks. You will lose…twice.

MIXED RESULTS:
These are the kind that jump all over the table or wheel. Look closely and of course you can see patterns of a kind too. Ie. abccbaabcabcdca …etc. Same rules as above apply.

CROSS COMBINATION RESULTS:
This is probably the area where there is the most confusion, and perfect for the sharks to sell you a system. There is no such thing as “Cross combination results” They are simply past results that anyone can say…look at how many reds followed high etc.etc. It is wide open to impress you with what’s looks clever.  I have to cover this crap because so many “experts” and “sellers” all over the Internet use this.

They are all traps you use, and lose. You have to set your own trap that consistently traps more winners than losers. Only correct knowledge can help you find one. Proceed slowly.

THIS IS THE KEY TO THE DOOR TO FINDING THAT WINNING BET:
You will need to know as much as possible about roulette
Now you should look in detail at all the moves that happen on a roulette table. (Not the wheel)  At first or even second glance you will perhaps not see them, because you are looking at all the conventional moves. This is the “Unconventional” thinking you need
This is the only place where you find that genuine winning bet. There is nothing complicated about the bets you can find. For example...our bet is "automatic". We know where to bet each and every spin of the wheel. We know that individual bets do not matter win or lose...because we know that we will have enough winning bets to return a great profit every session.

To the best of my knowledge there are four winning bets in total to be found within the game. I have learned to always keep an open mind. Therefore I accept there may be others I have no knowledge of. I do know that this website is miss-named!  It should be 4million.com because that is the average I earned from my bet in 13 years play.
There is no-one only yourself, stopping you from doing exactly the same. Dreams are a wonderful to have...but without the action to turn them to reality...they remain just a dream.
I can tell you that it may not be easy, and may take you some time, but you are now looking in the right place, where you can spend all your time, effort, and research. There are a few bets that can be engineered from certain movements. Some have a very small risk factor, ranging to a bet like ours with a proven no risk factor at all. The only risk coming from the casino management. (See page 5 on how to deal with that.)
Now you can perhaps make one more clever move yourself. For instance...if you can find a bet that has real "Stability", and it does not lose, but does not give you a profit, you could look and test to see if there is "A BET WITHIN THAT BET".  It will be a slow winner...but a winner is a winner!  It also may be that the "CONSISTENCY" is so good you can bet quite heavy. You may just need a "Dummy" (no win - no lose) bet to while the time.  (see page 5)
I am going to give you one last clue that will take you as far as I can without giving the bet away.  Make a list of every move that can happen…check out the possibilities of each move…if you have not found the right ones…you must look again. They are there and that is a proven fact.  It may take you some time…the payoff is huge…and for life!

Now you know why I have cancelled my email advice service. I cannot tell you more without disclosing our bet. I will therefore not answer any questions. There is a comprehensive Q & A page to help you Page 6
If  you found a bet that was guaranteed to consistently... LOSE.
You have found a guaranteed... WINNER?
It is of course my full intention for you to do some “work” and put your own effort into finding that bet and securing your own future. You will be the right person who will keep the “deal” to help children in need.

Assuming that many of you armed with the above information will find a winning bet, you will now need to know some more facts in order to exploit your bet to the full as a professional does. You must follow through in order to put together a complete winning formula.

MONEY MANAGEMENT:
This is a subject that you can spend a lifetime reading!  Do not bother! Tied in with all of the losing systems…double after a loss…reduce after 46 reds, parlays, change after you have lost a million? Etc. etc. Total bulls*** for fools. This is straight betting to win…not the “Stock exchange”   Take note, you will lose.

There is only one “Money Management System” you need, and it is simple. Housewives do ot every week.

You use a betting bank based upon the bet you are using. You multiply it by 3 times your worst losing run. This gives you the same amount for each bet. This gives your bet a good insurance against a bad run. That’s it…You win the session with more winning bets than losers.  If you lose…you have been cheated…or your bet is useless.
Nothing complex, simply commonsense. If your bet does not win on straight level betting…your bet is no good….go back to the drawing board.

May I explain by way of example? Our bet has shown on occasions to lose 6 in a row. So we need to multiply our session bank  3x6 = 18 (we round it up to 20) Therefore all the trustees always divide by 20. They have 20 bets of the same amount to use each session. In most sessions we never use more than 2 units from our bank before being in profit.
Ie. If we use a playing bank of £10.000 for a session we have 20 bet units of £500. For each bet.
You can now see that you must “Fit” your bets to the weakest part of your bet. All very simple. Do not be fooled by complexity. Keep everything simple and safe.

It will explain how we decide how much money we wish to win…we adjust our playing bank…but keep to the 20 units to bet with. We only adjust the total amount to suit.

OUR BETTING RULES:    Please copy them.
We play safe at all times.
We bet one bet at a time.
We never place other bets
We don’t guess
We never gamble
That is what we do. That is what every professional does. That is what you should do.
When you find your “Winning Bet” you must have a set of “Rules” It is the bet and the rules combined that give you a “Winning Formula” you must never deviate from.

A major rule for professional players who will play in excess of 400 sessions per year is that you must finish your session with at least 2 consecutive wins. Never on a losing bet.
The difference is a small fortune. I won’t do the maths for you…do it yourself, as a lesson you must never forget. Look very hard at your winning bet, and it will tell you if it is worth making that more than two. Keep in mind that professionals always play safe.
TIPS:
There are other simple rules like not drinking alcohol etc.
I will cover them on page 5
Don’t forget to take your winning bet off the table.
Patience and tenacity is worth a fortune to you
Because roulette is random you must remember it is also confined
Doing what everyone else is NOT doing can make you very wealthy
MOST IMPORTANT:  When you think you have found a consistent winning bet...it must pass these two tests:
1.  At least 30 sessions play with a consistent winning margin
2.  It must have a "Reason" why it wins? If you can find a genuine answer, then you know you have found a real bet you can rely on for life.
I am sure that you who make the effort needed will reap the rewards. That’s how it should be. We all need some help or a kick-start sometimes. I trust this will be yours.

Don’t forget the “Deal”  I dont need anything, but them kids are desperate
Take care,
Charles Edward Hampshire
(Known to some as Charlie x  because I am ex-playboy, ex-pilot, ex-financier, ex-roulette player, and now administrator of a trust fund. The next ex means I'm dead.....but I have no intention of that happening for some time yet.)

THE BOTTOM LINE IS...AS ALWAYS

YOU WIN…..AND THE CHILDREN WIN
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#### Jake007

##### Re: A message for thanks to Charles win3million
« Reply #41 on: March 06, 2017, 05:00:23 AM »

Here are two links I have dug up regarding the Win 3 Million system... also seems to be referred to by others as "the Boffin Bet". In the links people discuss the system and have outlined it. Im too tired to decipher the magic tonight. But interesting none the less...

betselection[dot]cc/general-discussion/has-anyone-tested-the-boffins-bet-with-the-exact-rules/

rouletteforum[dot]cc/index.php?topic=12071.0
« Last Edit: March 06, 2017, 10:06:30 AM by kav »

#### Jake007

##### Re: A message for thanks to Charles win3million
« Reply #42 on: March 07, 2017, 01:22:10 AM »

Sorry in advance for the wall of text. Since Duncan started the thread, I was hoping he would elaborate on the betting method, but after some digging I had no problem finding the "Charles/win3million" or "Boffin Bet" as its also called. I'll try to format it for easy reading and am posting this hopefully to create an ongoing discussion about this. Its merits, if anyone has used this, is it profitable, etc.

Remember! This was being sold for \$295 and then for \$500 before the guy Charles disappeared with a lot of peoples money.

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Ok here is the Full system for you and another member that isnt familiar with it.

It is an “outside” even money bet.
I.e., Red or Black, Odd or Even, High or Low.
It is a leave it on to double, treated as one bet

For the purpose of explaining this bet we will just use Red and Black.  You follow the others in identical pattern as shown in the example below.

Any number of same Reds or Blacks two or over in a row is the figure you must look for. Ie. 2 –3 –4 –5 –6 etc.

You wait for a change of colour to occur, then bet the same as your run of two or more. In other words Not the change colour. The penultimate colour! (one before last)

This bit is crucial to this bet…. On a win.. You must leave it “Ride” once on the same bet.  You now have two units running to complete the double.

ie. You have placed one unit from your “Bank” as per the bet, and take four (4) off for a win

All losses = 1 unit.  (if lose at stage one or two!)
All Wins = 3 units profit (you have only bet one unit…but take four off) for each unit you bet.
That is the basic bet.

THE same BET…… Stage two

Because this bet is based on the most staple and safest of movements on a Roulette table, you now have to take advantage of this fact. And this is how you do it.

After any loss you increase your bet by one unit only. And you stop the increase at a win! You will have won an amount as per the calculator below

Because you are getting a “return” of 4 to 1 on this bet, you can go to times six, and still make a profit of three units.

BET AND RETURN CALCULATOR:
Bet 1 units = bet total =  1 = 4       returned  Win 3
Bet 2 units = bet total =  3 = 8       returned  Win 5
Bet 3 units = bet total =  6 = 12     returned  Win 6
Bet 4 units = bet total = 10 = 16    returned  Win 6
Bet 5 units = bet total = 15 = 20    returned  Win 5
Bet 6 units = bet total = 21 = 24    returned  Win 3
Bet 7 units = bet total = 28 = 28    returned  Win 0
STOP DO NOT BET. Take a O loss or 28 unit loss

NOTE!  It will happen! You will lose a 28 unit mini-bank now and again. Your win ratio will always exceed any losses by a big margin. Consistent playing will give you better Mean Average Returns. (M.A.R.)

IF THIS DOES EVER HAPPEN WE RECOMMEND YOU TAKE THE SAFE ROUTE. STOP! YOU HAVE LOST A MINI-BANK. WRITE IT OFF AS A LOSS! DO NOT DOUBLE YOUR BANK!

NOW REVERT TO ONE UNIT AGAIN TO START THE PROCEDURE WITH A NEW 28 unit Mini-Bank AS PER THE BET STAGE ONE AND TWO.

This bet is well profitable enough to stand the occasional loss of a “bank” now and then. In Roulette odd things do happen from time to time, but they also work in your favour as you will see some extraordinary long winning runs!

Over any reasonable period and regular betting to gain the M.A.R this bet will return far more winning sessions of 30 units and perhaps a few losing ones of 28 units

Never change this formula! We know on certain occasions that a different approach would profit better?….but you MUST look at this bet as a LONG TERM proposition. And long term following the formula will PAY BETTER PROFITS!

That’s it….. it is that simple! Please don’t make the mistake in underestimating how profitable this can be.

You must now understand that this bet must be used in conjunction with the “Whole” formula as laid out below.

We always use and recommend a Mini-Bank of 28 units, for each of the outside bets you are betting. Plus a backup Bank for each one. We call these mini-banks. If you lose a mini-bank do not DOUBLE your next!  Just write it off.
There is a “factor” built into this bet called The Mean Average Return.

This is the Golden Key you must never change!

Let this “WORK” for you. You cannot beat it, or “Know” when it is working to your advantage. Follow the instructions exact

Do not GAMBLE or you will lose!

You must have one “BACK-UP” bank for each of the bets you are betting. This will ensure you should never have a losing session.

THE SESSION:

This is not a fixed session bet! This is a “Target” bet
We have researched all the possibilities of this bet, and for many reasons this bet is best treated as a “Hit and Run bet!

Not least of all you can exploit the short time factor that many sessions will give you.(you can do many sessions per day)

So this is a set Profit Target Bet. The optimum target is 30 units of bet (thirty) At this figure you get the maximum return for time and profit YOU HAVE JUST DOUBLED YOUR BANK! plus expenses! Playing outside of these figures will increase your risk factor a little from what is a safe bet. Professionals should play safe at all times.

THE RULES:
The most important rule you must obey is “Win and Walk”
This not only protects your profits, but also gives you as a Professional player, protection from detection!

There is just one very important “Rule” to apply here, and that is applied always!

Finish playing on a WINNING BET!

Note! Silly gamblers finish on a losing bet?

SIMPLE EXAMPLE USING ONLY RED AND BLACK: * = change

R
R
B   *        These stars* represent a change! Ok!  Bet after any change!
B         bet 1 unit red and lose
B
R   *
B         bet 2 units black and win…….leave on black to double
B         bet wins     Win=5 (total of 3 units on) you take 8 units off
B
R   *
R         bet 1 unit and lose
B   *
B         bet 2 units lose
B
R   *
B         bet 3 units black and win…leave on black to double
B         bet wins    Win =6  (total of 6 units bet) you take 12 units off
R   *
B         bet 1 unit and win…..leave on to double
B         bet wins    Win = 3 ( total of 1unit bet) You take 4 units off
R   *
ETC.
ETC.   (in the example you have won 14 points)

REMEMBER AFTER ANY WIN REVERT TO ONE UNIT BET!

A LOSS OF SEVEN IN A ROW MEANS YOU HAVE LOST A MINI-BANK…REVERT TO NEW BANK AND START AT 1 UNIT.

You can see now how you can simultaneously bet all three of the outside bets, as per the “formula” as soon as you have learned one correctly. THIS WILL TAKE SOME TIME TO DO!

I.e.   Red/Black…Odd/Even…High/Low

In Europe you can use the cards to record, but in areas where they frown upon this you will have to develop your own secret system. Just takes a bit of thought! A good idea wherever you are if you are a full-time professional.

ONE FINAL POINT ON THIS BET!

You will find that only one or two of the three bets will streak ahead, whilst the other one or two will show a smaller profit each.

Therefore do not guess like a gambler?  Eventually bet all three to get that important overall Mean Average Return.

It will take some effort on your part to learn perfection, but the returns are better than much harder efforts in other careers.

BE A REAL PROFESSIONAL….AND COLLECT THE REWARDS!

AND NOW FOR A NICE SURPRISE!

There is an even safer way to play this same bet with a longer wait for the bet to opportune itself.

THIS IS THE ORIGINAL ULTRA-SAFE BET

The bet above is an update on this bet. This was to improve the speed of the sessions so more sessions per time could be played. Most players use the bet above.
Many still prefer this one. It is really easy!

It is as the bet above but….this is FLAT betting.
NO DOUBLES  NO INCREASING

You only play one larger unit bet in the second position (where you would normally double) as above
Do not bet the first position. You ONLY bet if the first position WOULD HAVE WON….OK! or NO bet!
This is straight forward even betting

No increases! No Doubles

We recommend a HIT & RUN approach of 4 wins per session for each of the even money bets. ie. 4 for 1, 8 for 2, 12 for 3

These figures do not apply to EACH but if playing all 3 as soon as 12 units profit Total is hit…that’s the Run point!
Move table…or move Casino!

Recommended BANK….20 units for all three even bets total.
10 for 1 or 15 for 2

THIS IS THE BET YOU SHOULD ALL PLAY FOR AT LEAST SEVEN VISITS. YOU WILL THEN NOT ONLY HAVE WON SOME CAPITOL BUT BE FULLY AWARE HOW THE “COMBO” BET WORKS.

This is the bet you paid for! The rest is your bonus. Please go slowly..make money..get experience!

PS. Always keep records of all your sessions..if you have made a mistake….you will spot it quick. Be Professional.

Make every day a good Pay-day!

WE WISH YOU A GREAT FUTURE

Now the real Bonus if you have not spotted it yet?

Play the two bets above as ONE combined bet!

IE.  Play your Ist. Bet as explained
Play the ultimate bet on the 2nd hit as explained. You will automatically know to “Play” the 2nd bet … because you only Play it IF the first part of your “parlay” has won!

Regardless of how much you are betting from your 1st 28 unit mini bank…you bet your Flat fixed bet (ultimate bet) with the 1st part of a winning bet.

Please take your time to go over this many times! It will pay big dividends being a total Professional. Do not play until you know this bet well.  Do not Gamble!
You don’t need to now!  You can now always “Play” to win.

JUST ONE MORE DETAIL:

ZERO?  When this comes up during a bet you can ignore or you can restart the bet at the next point. The consensus of opinion is to ignore it at all times. Chose one and stick to it always. Unless it is a Losing bet then you treat it as a LOSS

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#### Duncan

##### Re: A message for thanks to Charles win3million
« Reply #43 on: August 16, 2017, 10:23:24 AM »
The bet you posted above is not the ACETF bet.
My bet ( ACETF) has not lost yet and every session is a winning one.
I will give some help for the people that are still trying to find the bet.

The ACETF logo means 13223 .
Charles was using letters a lot of times meaning dozens or col "1,2,3".
A=1 , C=3 , E= 2 , T= 2 .F= 3 .
By telling the English ABC like this:
1  2  3
A  B  C
D  E  F   ETC.

His logo describes the pattern that the bet traps.

There are 2 kind of patterns to happen
1) AAAA or BBBB
ABAB or BABA

2) AABB or BBAA
ABBA or BAAB

The bet has triggers that traps the 2nd pattern.

The deal is to find those triggers. There are 2 triggers that are in 3 Movements.

Win3million(W3M) is coded meaning Win 3 Movements.

his site is all black and read... try thinking why he did that.

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#### scepticus

##### Re: A message for thanks to Charles win3million
« Reply #44 on: August 16, 2017, 10:54:08 AM »

I think that parlaying / doubling is the best way to go with ECs
The key, though, is that you need a settled Bet Selection method ..

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