### Author Topic: How to bet below the minimum bet.  (Read 3264 times)

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#### kav

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##### How to bet below the minimum bet.
« on: July 02, 2014, 12:26:19 PM »
An example of out of the box thinking...

I'm always trying to develop and refine further the Kavouras Bet system.
As you know this system uses a betting selection that incorporates 7 different minibets. The minimum bet being 1 unit.
In order to offer even more safety and lessen the "luck" factor I wondered if it was possible to add an additional bet that would cover additional numbers.
But I would like to keep the main characteristics of the system. I wouldn't want it to degrade to a "bet everything" system. The new safety bet should have the lowest reward and the minimum risk. I wouldn't like it to cost one additional unit. That would increase the total bet from 8 units to 9 units, a 12,5% increase, which is unacceptable as it will lower the returns significantly. So what is the solution?

To put it more generally, say you have decided on a bet. For example you bet one unit (the minimum) on the first dozen. How can you also bet half a unit on the second dozen for added safety? The mathematical answer to this question is bet on the second dozen one unit half the times you bet on the first dozen.
The 1 unit on the first dozen half unit on the second dozen for 10 spins is equal to 1 unit on the first dozen for 10 spins and in 5 of those spins also bet 1 unit on the second dozen.
Nice!

#### palestis

##### Re: How to bet below the minimum bet.
« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2014, 12:04:11 AM »
An example of out of the box thinking...

I'm always trying to develop and refine further the Kavouras Bet system.
As you know this system uses a betting selection that incorporates 7 different minibets. The minimum bet being 1 unit.
In order to offer even more safety and lessen the "luck" factor I wondered if it was possible to add an additional bet that would cover additional numbers.
But I would like to keep the main characteristics of the system. I wouldn't want it to degrade to a "bet everything" system. The new safety bet should have the lowest reward and the minimum risk. I wouldn't like it to cost one additional unit. That would increase the total bet from 8 units to 9 units, a 12,5% increase, which is unacceptable as it will lower the returns significantly. So what is the solution?

To put it more generally, say you have decided on a bet. For example you bet one unit (the minimum) on the first dozen. How can you also bet half a unit on the second dozen for added safety? The mathematical answer to this question is bet on the second dozen one unit half the times you bet on the first dozen.
The 1 unit on the first dozen half unit on the second dozen for 10 spins is equal to 1 unit on the first dozen for 10 spins and in 5 of those spins also bet 1 unit on the second dozen.
Nice!
The case of the dozen bet is a totally different situation than the Kavouras bet. I would suggest to add another double street like 4-9 or 19-24 (1 unit), which will equalize the 0-1-2-3 bet (if it wins), reduce the 31-36 bet to 3 units profit  instead of 4, and still give a good profit of 9 units in the splits. But if the safety double street comes out, you only lose 3 units instead of 8, (thought there is a chance to hit the double street plus one of the splits ) . And if none  hits,  it doesn't make much difference if you lost 9 units instead of 8.
But my opinion is that you don't need any safety bet when you bet 20 numbers. It takes away from profits and adds more units lost if it didn't hit.
The way I would play this system is to walk up to a roulette and play the bet in  VIRTUAL mode and wait to lose twice in a row. Then I would play the next spin with money. One time only or 2 times? I'm not sure. If won, stop and start the same again. If lost, stop again and wait for another 2 virtual losses. The logic is that the roulette cannot keep up the same pattern. Like 2 virtual losses followed by another 2 losses. In effect failing to produce a number in this bet 4 times in a row. Caution:  this is not the same as looking around to see a roulette where a number in this bet failed to show up twice. And use that as a ready made virtual loss. Because when you observed something by looking around you did not use your probability chance (which is 54% in the Kavouras bet).  It was already there. The idea is to start counting only when you approach the roulette and use your probability right there and then. That's when your 54% starts counting.
That's the way I would play this system. Because the progression can be very dangerous when you play 20 numbers. Instead I would use progression in the CYCLE LEVEL. Not on the spot. To make that understood is like playing black and the roulette brings 5 reds in a row. Is it possible for the roulette every time it brings a red,to continue spinning another 4 reds? In 3 consecutive situations? I doubt it. The pattern has to break at some point. I found that to be a life saver in many systems. Even in Ellison's 3QA  system, it says quit after 3 bets and use progression the next time around. An I couldn't agree more.