# Roulette Life Forum

## Roulette Forum => Gambling Philosophy => Topic started by: Scarface on March 13, 2018, 10:01:17 PM

Title: Few Numbers are Best Bet
Post by: Scarface on March 13, 2018, 10:01:17 PM
Every bet has the same 2.7% edge house edge working against them, no matter what you play.  But are some bets better than others?

I believe betting fewer numbers have an advantage over more numbers.  If you take zeros out of the equation, you should hit 1 number for every 36 numbers bet (on average)

Let's look at 2 scenerios for playing 36 numbers

1.  Bet \$18 on an even bet for 2 spins.  Total wager \$36.  Total numbers played 36

2.  Bet \$1 on 4 numbers for 9 spins.  Total wager \$36.  Total numbers played 36.

Both bets cover the same amount of numbers for the same amount of money.  BUT, if you go with #1, then your maximum amount you can win is \$36 if you win both bets.  If you go with #2, then you can win \$36 if you win 2 bets....BUT you have the maximum earning potential of \$288!

Another advantage of betting less numbers is the progressions are less painful.  Your average unit size from #1 is \$18, while #2 is only \$4

Personally, I like to start out with more and reduce to less.  Playing few numbers like 3-5, you will eventually cross that sequence hitting 3-5 numbers in one sequence and progression don't get out of control.  Of course, picking the right numbers always helps
Title: Re: Few Numbers are Best Bet
Post by: stringbeanpc on March 13, 2018, 11:52:43 PM
I never thought of comparing bets this way, but you are right.

With the 2nd scenario you have the chance to win multiple times within a cycle.
Title: Re: Few Numbers are Best Bet
Post by: Scarface on March 14, 2018, 12:44:01 AM
I like to use low number wagers on recent repeaters, usually 4 numbers.  It's not to often all 4 numbers go cold as soon as you start playing them.  Usually, at least 1 or 2 will keep hitting...the ones that don't I'll switch out with new ones.
Title: Re: Few Numbers are Best Bet
Post by: Horsewill on March 29, 2018, 09:17:27 PM
Although this is a simple concept, in my opinion, I don't think many players grasp it.  Most systems and different methods of play attempt to remove the risk from variations of  expected outcomes, by using long or steep progressions. One of the few systems or method of play that doesn't need to combat variations is the repeating numbers method of play. When you play for repeating numbers you are hoping for variation from the norm, the more variation the better, the longer your strategy allows you to play for repeats, the more likely a win. It seems better to go with the flow, so to speak, that against it.

I agree that the fewer numbers you play the better, as a variation is more likely to occur with fewer numbers.
Title: Re: Few Numbers are Best Bet
Post by: Scarface on March 29, 2018, 09:36:13 PM
Few numbers + recent repeaters are a good winning strategy imo
Title: Re: Few Numbers are Best Bet
Post by: mr j on March 30, 2018, 01:25:14 AM
"Few numbers + recent repeaters are a good winning strategy" >> Well, yeah. Welcome to the party. One less guy on my list, 143 more to go.

Ken
Title: Re: Few Numbers are Best Bet
Post by: leowls on March 30, 2018, 01:31:39 AM
mrj, what do you say about betting on the last number, line, street or dozen?
Title: Re: Few Numbers are Best Bet
Post by: MrPerfect. on April 01, 2018, 10:56:46 AM
There are 2 schools of thought. ... more numbers - less variance. Less numbers- less expensive mistakes.
How many numbers to bet do not really affect how much you will win. You can bet many numbers ( following Klotz criteria for example) and still win a lot. But it's cucumbersome,  calculating precise bet on many numbers for different denominations is not easy, especially playing on table. ... Klotz is better for automated betting with bots on online casino.
Realistically speaking , 3-4 numbers is much better choice in term's of ability to cover them with bets.
Title: Re: Few Numbers are Best Bet
Post by: petespin on April 01, 2018, 11:44:41 AM
I agree playing lesd numbers, 4 numbers its the best bet , but imo u have to choose as random bet selection as it gets , always based on the wheel.
Title: Re: Few Numbers are Best Bet
Post by: MrPerfect. on April 01, 2018, 11:46:33 AM
I prefer numbers that are positive in expectation. .. it produce better results then random choice
Title: Re: Few Numbers are Best Bet
Post by: petespin on April 01, 2018, 12:00:44 PM
In rouletge we have to expect things to happen , bit u cant be sire WHEN? If for ex finals of 2 and 5 have to appear for many spins iys likely that will apoear in a row , so thats predictable isnt? We dont know the exact spins ( if we could number the spins) but we know tjat in a range of spins it will happen ,.
Title: Re: Few Numbers are Best Bet
Post by: MrPerfect. on April 01, 2018, 12:27:24 PM
Apriory we know nothing, but if we have data we can model. If something has more then expected amount of hits, randomness goes to hell.  If our model include physical variables with verified cause- effect relatinships,  then yes we can know when things is to hit with accuracy better then random.
It's still a probability game, but odds will be shifted to our side when we do things right.
Title: Re: Few Numbers are Best Bet
Post by: petespin on April 01, 2018, 12:49:53 PM
People say rouletfe had bad odds for the players  , i disagree , 2,7 is tbe edge of european roulette , not big at all , think about keno or slots ,  or even lotto game , i defenetily can  be beaten gemes with such this precentahe , the big problem is that people think no casino game is beatable , i ve seen guys lose a fortune lplaying roulette , but they dont knowv how to play , i ve seen guys divorced , go bankrupty or even worst kill themselves  , u MUST know when to atop otherwise u have no hope ....
Title: Re: Few Numbers are Best Bet
Post by: MrPerfect. on April 01, 2018, 12:59:16 PM
Pete,majority of folks do not wake up even when they f*** their own wifes.  If for something like that they do not pay attention, how would you expect them to pay attention playing the game. ???
Title: Re: Few Numbers are Best Bet
Post by: DrTalos on April 01, 2018, 01:20:58 PM
I like the image, MrPerfect. They don't wake up even when you f*** their own wife, in their own bed, with them sleeping there meanwhile...
Title: Re: Few Numbers are Best Bet
Post by: MrPerfect. on April 01, 2018, 01:43:31 PM
Yap... image itself is funny, however.. it's reality.
Humans have very sofisticated brain... biologically speaking it's very expensive on resources it requires. So most of time it's shut down to prevent starvation . 1kilo and something of brain tissue consumes 75% of available resources! !!! Nature came up with a way to address this issue..  it's permanent sleep with moments of put it on only when situation require... our life style in general doesn't help either...
Biological facts!!! Only few can "get hold" on this processes.  People look like "zomby" most of the time , deep sleep with almost  no chance to wake up.
Title: Re: Few Numbers are Best Bet
Post by: mr j on April 01, 2018, 02:49:30 PM
mrj, what do you say about betting on the last number, line, street or dozen?

I know I have answered this more than once. I would never do the ECs, too many numbers.

I think people that bet on the ECs think that its a security blanket of sorts cause its a large portion of the board. They *FEEL* better about the bet. Not a lot of thinking goes into betting 12, 18, 24 numbers. If you want to bet 2-4 numbers, you *MUST* have your s**t together. Much more SKILL and experience NEEDED (imo).

6 numbers in a line bet.....too many.

You mentioned the last number OR street that just hit, bet it again? Why? So the 35 just hit. I should maybe bet the 34 35 36 street? What if the 34 36 have not hit in the last 150 spins, why would I bet it?
I just wasted TWO units!! There are 3 numbers in a street.

What about betting three hot numbers? Its better than betting on two cold numbers.

To me, there are no splits, streets, corners etc. If the 7 & 10 are two hot numbers, its only a COINCIDENCE that its a split. The goofs that bet on a column/dozen. So thats 12.

Its *VERY* plausible that 2-4 of those numbers are cold. You have *WASTED* 2-4 units betting on cold numbers. Cold is cold regardless if its straight up OR in a column/dozen.

Ken
Title: Re: Few Numbers are Best Bet
Post by: Scarface on April 01, 2018, 04:35:32 PM
I agree with you Mr J.  I would rather get 3 hot numbers, instead of a hot street.  The street might be hot only because of 1 number.
Title: Re: Few Numbers are Best Bet
Post by: petespin on April 02, 2018, 07:54:27 AM
A good way to choose 6 numbers to bet is to follow single doz bet xxy , but play 6 no instead of a dozen , how can u choose the numbers? U can look back in spins and watch this particular doz hot or cold numbers , speaking personally i d choose 3 no that didnt appear yet, and 3 hot no , playing for 6 spins , no progressions,
I think its a nice way to play 6 no bet , i have a better bet selection for playing few no ,but iam sure this could work