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#### Mario12346

##### What do people think of this system for online roulette?
« on: April 09, 2014, 11:41:45 PM »
Ive not tried it, it just came into my head the other night while I was falling asleep. What if we put £1.00 on the first dozen and £1.50 on high numbers, (19 - 36), which leaves just the 0 and 6 numbers uncovered. The idea is to grind and keep winning 50p per spin but if the 0 or 6 uncovered numbers come out then we use the martingale to double up untill we win; surely a series of 0,13,13,14,15 for example would be unlickley?

#### kav

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##### Re: What do people think of this system for online roulette?
« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2014, 12:21:03 PM »
This is a great idea Mario.
I plan to elaborate on such a system in a future post ;-)

#### Mario12346

##### Re: What do people think of this system for online roulette?
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2014, 10:15:45 PM »
Thats good I look forward to seeing it. What would be the correct martingale double up for 50p on the 1st dozen and £1.50 on high numbers 19 - 36?

Thanks,

Marios

#### kav

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##### Re: What do people think of this system for online roulette?
« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2014, 09:02:39 AM »
Hi,

I call this type of betting "parallel betting" and I will post an article about soon. These type of systems have some nice traits.
To your question, if you used the martingale progression, the bets would be...

1rst DOZEN: 0.5 - 1 - 2 - 4   - 8   - 16 - 32
HIGH:           1.5 - 3 - 6 - 12 - 24 - 48 - 96

Bankroll needed for 7- step Martingale 254 units
Probability of losing your bank roll 0,001%

A great system Mario. Well worth studying further.
I wonder what else will you come up while sleeping ;-)
« Last Edit: April 15, 2014, 07:41:13 PM by kav »

#### beretta28

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##### Re: What do people think of this system for online roulette?
« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2014, 12:40:05 PM »
1st:this system has been invented one hour after the invention of roulette and it has made more victims than a war

2nd:your martingale is a suicide.Winning from the second term=draw.....

#### kav

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##### Re: What do people think of this system for online roulette?
« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2014, 01:25:47 PM »
Hi beretta28,

I do not share your sentiments.
I think this system is no worst than the majority of systems posted on all roulette forums, to deserve such bashing.
The fact that only the even chance bet produces a profit is not a problemor a disadvantage. The dozen bet is a "safety" bet against fluctuations.
Furthermore it can be modified in a specific way that wcan make it even more interesting.

I value very much your participation, but not in dismissing new methods from new members in such a intimidating way in a couple sentences. If you want to dismiss something please provide a complete rational, why this is worse than anything else.

#### Mario12346

##### Re: What do people think of this system for online roulette?
« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2014, 12:30:07 AM »

Kirie Kavoura thanks for the correct martingale progression, I own my own business and Ive been too busy the last few days to think about this in deph but I plan to try it.

Baretta I also disagree. In a real casino with a minimum of £5 and max £250 on outside bets then this could be suicide perhaps, but online with minimum 10p and max 50,000 then this is a potential gold mine if you are patient enough to grind the wins.

You only have two hands and cant walk out of the gold mine in one day with all the gold, you have to carry it out in small amounts which takes time.

People are too quick to dismiss martingale but I started a month ago with £200 and now have £1200 by using a capped martingale with a delay, (my trigger would be for example 7 odds in a row then bet even), the max I double up to is £160 and Ive only lost once in a month so Im happy to win £50 - £100 a day and lose £300 once every now and again as I continue to stay in profit and grow my original £200 into more and more and more as Id never double up past £160 to risk it all which is the reason people seem to dismiss martingale.

-Marios

#### Mario12346

##### Re: What do people think of this system for online roulette?
« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2014, 01:04:21 AM »
Another idea whilst laying in bed....

Wait for a string of low numbers to come out, then bet 50p on 1st dozen as a saftey bet and £1.00 on high numbers with the aim of making a 50p profit. Once the high number hits you end the progression with a 50p profit and wait for a new trigger. If 0 or 13 - 18 come out then we use martingale untill high number comes out and we win! This system works in reverse also such as if a bunch of high numbers came out then that would be a trigger to bet on low numbers.

I base my gambling on the law of balance and ecart and 9 out of 10 times it wins. People say the wheel has no memory and isnt influenced by the past but it is influenced by a balancing force! Otherwise strings of 100 reds would be common place! Playing roulette would be like playing the lottery but I see it as a game of skill!

In the real casino some players throw hundreds down on random numbers and seem to snigger at my carefully placed minimum bets but I walk out after a couple of hours £100 in profit but they might be £2000 in profit one day and £10,000 in minus the following week!

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##### Re: What do people think of this system for online roulette?
« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2014, 11:49:40 AM »

You only have two hands and cant walk out of the gold mine in one day with all the gold, you have to carry it out in small amounts which takes time.

People are too quick to dismiss martingale but I started a month ago with £200 and now have £1200 by using a capped martingale with a delay, (my trigger would be for example 7 odds in a row then bet even), the max I double up to is £160 and Ive only lost once in a month so Im happy to win £50 - £100 a day and lose £300 once every now and again as I continue to stay in profit and grow my original £200 into more and more and more as Id never double up past £160 to risk it all which is the reason people seem to dismiss martingale.

Marios,

You are one of the very few people I know who win at online roulette. What casino are you playing at?
Have you tried to withdraw money yet?
Keep up the good work and please keep us informed.

#### Mario12346

##### Re: What do people think of this system for online roulette?
« Reply #9 on: April 12, 2014, 05:06:13 PM »
I have sent you a PM with the answers you required.

Tonight Im going to a land based casino where the minimum outside bet is £5 and max £2000 but Id still like to discuss here and experiment with methods to grind at online roulette by playing the minimums like 50p or even 10p even though my bankroll is £1200 so I can safley use the martingale.

-Marios

#### dobbelsteen

##### Re: What do people think of this system for online roulette?
« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2014, 09:44:32 AM »
I have made a table for the martingale suggestion of Kav. The table show that the expect results are very poor. Please correct me when I made a failure.

The system is a game for the double streets. For a profitable hit you must cover 5 DS each with one unit.

A dozen is the same as 2 DS and High or Low 3 DS

You have to bet every spin 5 units. This system with variations is the game of the dices. Every DS is one site of a dice. I play it very often in the casino and on internet. It is part of my strategy.

#### Mario12346

##### Re: What do people think of this system for online roulette?
« Reply #11 on: April 15, 2014, 05:11:25 PM »
Thanks for making the table but could you explain it better for me please? Also explain what the abreviations at the top of the table table stand for.

Thanks,

-Marios

#### kav

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##### Re: What do people think of this system for online roulette?
« Reply #12 on: April 15, 2014, 07:50:39 PM »
I have made a table for the martingale suggestion of Kav. The table show that the expect results are very poor. Please correct me when I made a failure.

The system is a game for the double streets. For a profitable hit you must cover 5 DS each with one unit.

A dozen is the same as 2 DS and High or Low 3 DS

You have to bet every spin 5 units. This system with variations is the game of the dices. Every DS is one site of a dice. I play it very often in the casino and on internet. It is part of my strategy.

Hello dobbelsteen,
Thanks for your work. I would like some clarifications too, as I cannot understand the results of the table and where are they coming for. How many spins have you tested, what was the longest loosing streak etc.

I would also like to point out that this system is NOT the same as betting 5 double streets. In 5 double street every hit on each of the 5 double streets pays 1 unit profit. In this system, 3 double streets pay 2 units profit. On the average it is the same, as everything in roulette is the same in average, but there is some important strategical difference between the 5 split bet and the system of Marios.

#### Mario12346

##### Re: What do people think of this system for online roulette?
« Reply #13 on: April 15, 2014, 10:50:51 PM »
Indeed the 5 double streets system looks far more interesting than the system I originally suggested.

Dobbelsteen could you please make a table for the 5 double streets system and also explain it with more detail.

Perhaps we could also discuss some strategies based around this?

#### BKS11

##### Re: What do people think of this system for online roulette?
« Reply #14 on: April 16, 2014, 02:23:50 PM »
What is your mathematical expectation betting the way you do................?

Quote..."What if we put £1.00 on the first dozen and £1.50 on high numbers, (19 - 36), which leaves just the 0 and 6 numbers uncovered"

And how you implement this. Are you putting 1 pound on each number of the first dozen and 19-36 you put on each number 1.50 pound. Why you do not keep it equal?  Could you clear this up?  I looks like you can play instead brandy handy way............. and double up the next time you have 2 repeating number. That is way more mathematical and less risky I think cause you cover all numbers except 4 instead of 6! Seems to me a better outcome?