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#### BlueAngel

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##### Flat bets on trends
« on: January 29, 2016, 12:54:39 PM »

Hello everybody, today I'm going to show you how you could be an overall winner by playing roulette.

There are many systems which by using progressions are striving to increase winning rate, but they forget one important fact of the game;
Winning is not only about probability but it's also about payouts...this is what I call risk and reward.

Given the time roulette can produce any kind of results, even the less possible.
If you understand and accept it then you would realize that this game rewards the patience and discpline, not the opposite behavior.

About 90%, if not more, of the systems out there are having a ''sleepers'' mentality, how many times in a row my selection could be sleeping? That's what I call ''sleeping'' mentality and finally they are attaching a progression to this fouled mentality and here is your beautiful system!

What I'm about to present you bets on sections which occur more than their theoretic probability, needs only 35 units bankroll per session, applies only flat bets and its winning sessions provide more profit than what you lose on a lost session.

Another element of this strategy is that the bets are non stop, no waiting for specific conditions to happen before you begin.

You start by observing the last result, let's say that this was number 13, now you bet 1 unit on Low.
13 - bet 1 unit on Low (1-18) possible net profit +1 unit

Let's say next outcome is number 24, so we lose and now the next bet goes to 2nd dozen.
24 - bet 1 unit on 2nd dozen, possible net profit +1 unit

Number 36 hits and we lose, next bet goes to six-line 31-36
36 - bet 1 unit on six-line 31-36, possible net profit +3 units

27 hits and lost once more, now we bet either six-line 22-27 or 25-30
27 - bet 1 unit either six-line 22-27 or 25-30, possible net profit +2 units

Number 3 comes and we lose, now bet six-line 1-6
3 - bet 1 unit on six-line 1-6, possible net profit +1 unit

Number 0 comes, bet the quad 0,1,2 and 3
0 - bet 1 unit on quad 0,1,2 and 3, possible net profit +3 units

Number 16 appears, bet either corner 13,14,16 and 17  or  16,17,22 and 23
16 - bet 1 unit either corner 13,14,16 and 17  or  16,17,22 and 23, possible net profit +2 units

18 hits, lost again, now bet either corner 14,15,17 and 18 or  17,18,20 and 21
18 - bet 1 unit either corner 14,15,17 and 18 or  17,18,20 and 21, possible net profit +1 unit

24 hits, now bet the street 22,23 and 24
24 - bet 1 unit on street 22,23 and 24, possible net profit +3 units

35 is the next number, bet street 34,35 and 36
35 - bet 1 unit on street 34,35 and 36, possible net profit +2 units

7 hits, now bet street 7,8 and 9
7 - bet 1 unit on street 7,8 and 9, possible net profit +1 unit

13 hits, now bet one of the splits which are containing number 13, there are three possible variations, with 10 or 14 or 16
13 - bet 1 unit on one of the splits: 10/13 or 13/14 or 13/16, possible net profit +6 units

0 hits, bet on one of the zero's splits: 0/1 or 0/2 or 0/3
0 - bet 1 unit on one of the splits: 0/1 or 0/2 or 0/3, possible net profit +5 units

27 hits,now bet one of the splits which are containing number 27: 24/27 or 26/27 or 27/30
27 - bet 1 unit on one of the splits: 24/27 or 26/27 or 27/30, possible net profit +4 units

23 hits, bet one of the splits which are containing number 23: 20/23 or 22/23 or 23/24 or 23/26
23 - bet 1 unit on one of the splits: 20/23 or 22/23 or 23/24 or 23/26, possible net profit +3 units

8 appears, bet one of the splits: 5/8 or 7/8 or 8/9 or 8/11
8 - bet 1 unit on one of the splits: 5/8 or 7/8 or 8/9 or 8/11, possible net profit +2 units

35 comes, bet one of the splits: 32/35 or 34/35 or 35/36
35 bet 1 unit on one of the splits: 32/35 or 34/35 or 35/36, possible net profit +1 unit

4 hits, bet it straight up with 1 unit for a possible net profit of +18 units

7 hits, bet 7 straight up with 1 unit for a possible net profit of +17 units

17 hits, bet 17 straight up with 1 unit for a possible net profit of +16 units

17 hits for a net overall profit of +16 units!

I think by now you understood how to bet under any circumstances.
Last but not least, we are going to set the win target per session to exactly the same amount we risk per session, 35 units.
Of course a winning session adds to our bankroll 35 units, but a losing ALWAYS costs less money since we are not going to lose before we gain some profit, whether it's 1 or 30 units.
By having equal or more positive sessions than negative we are OVERALL winners!:-)

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#### BlueAngel

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##### Re: Flat bets on trends
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2016, 02:14:45 PM »

Just to give you something to think about, what would happen if three different players was betting with this method but each one of them bets with one spin difference??

Let's make an example, first number is 13, the first player bets on Low 1 unit of 5 \$ value.

Next number is 24, first player loses 1 unit of 5 \$ value and bets the same unit value on 2nd dozen.
The second player bets 1 unit of 10 \$ value on High following last number 24.

Number 36 hits, player 1 loses again, so far lost 2 units of 5\$ value and now bets the six-line 31/36 with same amount.
Player 2 wins one unit of 10\$ value and bets again High with same amount.
Player 3 enters the game and places 1 unit of 25\$ value on High following last number 36.

27 hits and player 1 loses for third time in a row, an overall of -15\$ loss.
Player 2 wins again, thus a total of +20\$ net profit.
Player 3 achieves his first win of +25\$.

Can you imagine how many players can join in different spins with or without different value of units...??
What would be the overall outcome? Just think about it.

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#### Reyth

##### Re: Flat bets on trends
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2016, 02:20:12 PM »
Hmmm.... thinking.... YES its coming to me.....  is it fanning?? no....  tanning?? no.....  Give me a sec, I'll get it...

WAIT.  Its corrosion! errrf no... illusion!!  no... contusion! no durn its on the tip of my tongue...
« Last Edit: January 29, 2016, 07:25:39 PM by Reyth »

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#### december

##### Re: Flat bets on trends
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2016, 06:00:44 PM »
Hello everybody, today I'm going to show you how you could be an overall winner by playing roulette.

Music to my ears...
Thanks  Blue!

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#### Reyth

##### Re: Flat bets on trends
« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2016, 06:16:44 PM »
Hmmm, 35 spins without a back to back hit...

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#### Real

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##### Re: Flat bets on trends
« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2016, 07:19:36 PM »
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Can you imagine how many players can join in different spins with or without different value of units...??

Enough to fill a casino?
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What would be the overall outcome? Just think about it.

Laughter?
« Last Edit: January 29, 2016, 07:26:50 PM by Real »

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#### BlueAngel

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##### Re: Flat bets on trends
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2016, 10:00:29 PM »
It's like splitting yourself in many instances...casino can stop one at a time but not all of them!

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##### Re: Flat bets on trends
« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2016, 05:47:58 PM »

Another interesting variation is the following:

Instead of the first bet to be on High or Low, bet 3 units on the same as last high/low AND 2 units on the opposite dozen.
As long as you win 1 unit from 30 numbers is fine, but what happens when you lose 5 units?
You are going to continue the bet series as stated on the first post BUT from corners, always including the number which make you lost 5 units.
In other words the first 5 units bet (3 low or high + 2 1st dozen or 3rd dozen) replaces five first bets:
1) low or high
2) dozen of last number
3) six line of last number
4) six line of last number
5) six line of last number

When you went all the way to 35th spin without a hit you may continue to bet straight up number(s) with the following progression:
For 18 spins 2 units
For 12 spins 3 units
For 9 spins 4 units
For 7 spins 5 units
For 6 spins 6 units
For 5 spins 7 units
For 4 spins 8 units
For 4 spins 9 units
For 3 spins 10 units
For 3 spins 11 units
For 3 spins 12 units

If after 109 spins you cannot win one time then you've lost 416 units (minus previous profit) and it's better to quit.

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##### Re: Flat bets on trends
« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2016, 07:07:22 PM »

If you asked me about what's better I'd responded to take a closer look on each stage separately.

The first stage comparison is between one bet of 30 numbers which has 81.08% probability, could win 1 unit and could lose 5 units
OR
5 successive bets on high/low, dozen and three times a six line with total probability                                        48.64 + 16.21 + 5.40 + 4.05 + 3.24 = 77.54%, could win 1 up to 3 units and could lose 5 units

The first option provides slightly more chance but the second could win up to 3 times more

(5.4 * 2) + (4.05 * 1) - (3.54 * 6) =
(10.80 + 4.05) - 21.24 =
14.85 - 21.24 = -6.39

In other words betting 30 numbers (3 low or high + 2 1st dozen or 3rd dozen) seems to be better.
Ignore the common middle stage and let's compare the final stage, first option doesn't continues after 35 successive unsuccessful bets, thus minimizing profit and loss.

The second option adds a third stage with 74 additional bets, therefore increases win rate and total loss.
Statistically speaking, there are 2 up to 4 numbers which are sleeping beyond 109 spins, so the question is how to avoid those numbers.
There is not an easy answer BUT the only sensible way is to bet last number, this way you are avoiding numbers which have not appeared, among them the super sleepers.

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#### Reyth

##### Re: Flat bets on trends
« Reply #9 on: April 30, 2016, 09:49:36 PM »

I think it will do much better however with a trigger of X SPINS with no back to back repeaters.

The question is, "How many spins can we expect to see without any back to back repeaters?"

Yikes, I should of realized this but I needed the comp to tell me that we actually do better betting a single number straight up than waiting for a single number to repeat... >.<
« Last Edit: April 30, 2016, 11:24:33 PM by Reyth »

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#### UK-21

##### Re: Flat bets on trends
« Reply #10 on: May 01, 2016, 10:20:05 AM »
The problem in waiting for so many spins where a number, or combination of numbers, doesn't show is that you can sit waiting for a very long time.

There's a notorious nonsense system in circulation from a guy named Balvinder Sambhi, who's method is to wait for 12 spins where none of 8 specific numbers (from two corners) put an appearance in - after which you'd then make your first bet of £0.20 (on an electronic terminal). I kid you not.

I've just simmed 5,000 trials of his system; the result was having to wait 114 spins before placing the first bet (which progressed 6 steps before hitting a win), then a further 105 before placing a single bet that won (£0.20), a further 12 before placing another single winning bet, and then a further 244 spins before placing the next bet which kicked off a 17 step losing cycle before a winning number popped up. These figures don't prove anything in themselves, but you get the picture - of 5,000 spins, only 243 bets were placed (representing less than 5% of the total).

++++

Applying a "wait" is, of course, groundless (assuming randomness and no wheel or dealer bias) and based on Gamblers Fallacy, as the number of slots on the wheel do not change and previous results have no bearing on those to come. I'm sure this is not news to the regulars on this site.

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#### random

##### Re: Flat bets on trends
« Reply #11 on: June 17, 2016, 11:17:00 PM »

I think it will do much better however with a trigger of X SPINS with no back to back repeaters.

The question is, "How many spins can we expect to see without any back to back repeaters?"

Yikes, I should of realized this but I needed the comp to tell me that we actually do better betting a single number straight up than waiting for a single number to repeat... >.<

i believe seven is the magic number

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##### Re: Flat bets on trends
« Reply #12 on: July 03, 2016, 06:39:44 PM »