### Author Topic: EC labby, for Dozen?  (Read 5857 times)

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#### weird

##### EC labby, for Dozen?
« on: July 28, 2015, 03:27:12 AM »
Gentlemen,
I happened to read someone posting about Labby, to bet Dozen,
which I think too complex for some.
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What I think is .
Since Labby needs 33%+one to win.
And the Dozen hit expectation=33%, albeit zero.

Thus isnt it logical to bet..

LABBY meant for EC, BUT bet single Dozen with it.

Since Dozen payout=2:1.

Then we just need 33/2=16.5%-plus-one-win to profit...

[of course the dozen may sleep for 45spins..sigh!]

What u think?
Thanks.

#### weird

##### Re: EC labby, for Dozen?
« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2015, 03:35:50 AM »
below a simplified labby for EC, but bet single Dozen.

L1=-1
L11=-2
L112=-3
L1123=-4
L11234=-5
L112345=-6
L1123456=-7
L11234567=-8
L112345678=-9
L1123456789=-10=-55
W1123456789,10= 11X2=22
W123456789=10X2= 20
W2345678=10X2= 20

#### Harryj

##### Re: EC labby, for Dozen?
« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2015, 01:05:10 PM »
below a simplified labby for EC, but bet single Dozen.

L1=-1                                                                 W=+2
L11=-2   (4)                                                        W=+2
L112=-3  (7)                                                       W=+2
L1123=-4  (11)                                                    W=+1
L11234=-5   (16)                                                 W= -1     BET 1= +1
L112345=-6   (22)                                               W= -4     BET 3= +2
L1123456=.7  (29)                                              W= -8     BET 5=  +2
L11234567=-8  (37)                                            W=-13    BET 7= + 1
L112345678=-9  (46)                                          W= -19   BET 9=    0
L1123456789=-10=-55 (56)                                 W= -26  BET 11= -4  BET 3 = +2
W1123456789,10= 11X2=22
W123456789=10X2= 20
W2345678=10X2= 20

Hi Weird,
I have taken the libertyof adjusting your layout and putting in a possible 2nd bet. Some players may feel that I am being too conservative  here, but this is in line with my policy of not exposing my bankroll. as it stands I think this is pretty agressive. with a decent trigger you will hardly ever need that 2nd bet.

Harry

#### scepticus

##### Re: EC labby, for Dozen?
« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2015, 10:50:17 PM »
Could you clarify this for me ?
First 4 bets lose so lose 1-2-3-4 =10. Next bet 5 points which if won recovers past losses but no profit .After that losses occur even if your bet wins ?
And why not bet only 1 point on first two bets and increase thereafter to show a profit if a bet wins ?

#### weird

##### Re: EC labby, for Dozen?
« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2015, 03:31:27 AM »
Hi Harry,
That very interesting.

May u please explain more.

Eager to learn.

Thanks in advance.

#### albalaha

##### Re: EC labby, for Dozen?
« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2015, 04:29:32 AM »
Any progression that is meant for an EC bet will look like doing great on Dozens but that is only for pink stages of the game. Once dirty variance like one hit in 25 spins or 3 in 45 rolls in, it will go suicidal.

I do not recommend them, in any manner but you can have fun with them, if you feel like.
« Last Edit: August 05, 2015, 03:22:45 AM by albalaha »

#### Harryj

##### Re: EC labby, for Dozen?
« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2015, 08:09:32 PM »
Hi Weird,
As Scep pointed out I should have started with 2 bets of 1. Your 1st 5 bets then show a profit no progression needed. I was trying to show you that your betting was much too aggressive. With only a couple of wins needed to cancel a dozen losses. AS Albalaha pointed out if you hit a bad sreak you could never recover.
If you have the right bet selection no bet is worth chasing for more than twice it's odds. With dozens you can expect 1 hit in 3 spins If you can't get a hit in 6 spins. your bet selection is wrong and you should look for another target. The amount you have lost up to that point is recoverable. acouple more of those aggressive bets and you in it, up to your neck, without a shovel.

If you must chase dozens try this.
bet 1
1
2
3
4   So far 1 hit gives you a profit Now total the last 3 bets and divide by 2
ie 2 + 3 + 4 = 9 divide by = 4.5 use next whole number = 5
5 W  total 16 pick up 15 = -1  Take the loss and restart.
L add 3 + 4 + 5 = 12 bet 6
6 W  tot 22 pu 18 = -4. You can make a 2nd bet o 3 for a profit of 2
L  6 + 5 +4 = 15 bet 8
8 W  tot 30 pu 24 = -6  2nd bet 4 for a profit of 2

You can take this as far as you like. in a short while it will take 3 wins to clear the line. Unless you are unlucky it will clear but
you are risking ever increasing amounts for a very small profit. Remember Albalaha.

Personally 5 bets is about as far as I will go on dozens, and I am not completely happy about going that far.

Harry

#### mogul397

##### Re: EC labby, for Dozen?
« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2015, 02:12:35 AM »
Let me redirect you here.

rouletteforum-cc /index.php?topic=15761.0

The link doesn't seem to save right. Just use the part starting with "www".

I have been testing this live. Seems to be working.
« Last Edit: December 28, 2016, 09:16:30 PM by kav »

#### Harryj

##### Re: EC labby, for Dozen?
« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2015, 11:56:52 AM »
Thanks Mogul that is very useful. Double dozens have never had it so good.

PLUS ANOTHER NAIL TO HAMMER INTO MIKE'S VIRTUAL COFFIN.

That virtual bet makes it difficult to lose. the casino would have to produce  a series LLW which is exactly opposite of the math expectancy of WWL.

Harry

#### palestis

##### Re: EC labby, for Dozen?
« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2015, 01:54:57 PM »

I noticed that you mentioned Plainridge in the other forum.
Do they really have a mechanical roulette? I thought this casino that just opened up only has slots.
I hope it's not like the roulette in Twin River where a spot of white light spins around like a ball, without the wheel moving at all.
« Last Edit: December 28, 2016, 09:18:10 PM by kav »

#### mogul397

##### Re: EC labby, for Dozen?
« Reply #10 on: August 05, 2015, 01:06:47 AM »
Correct. There is an actual ball that mechanically spins.

Not like the lights at twin river.

And craps with this 8" dice that bounces from vibration.

#### palestis

##### Re: EC labby, for Dozen?
« Reply #11 on: August 05, 2015, 01:35:37 AM »
Correct. There is an actual ball that mechanically spins.

Not like the lights at twin river.

And craps with this 8" dice that bounces from vibration.
I was there yesterday. 2 roulettes and an auto craps in the middle.
The third roulette is different, The \$1 one. The wheel spins in both directions. The interblock G5 only spins clockwise. I hope that some day they will put real tables for roulette and black jack. For now they only have the stupid virtual black jacks.
But the Twin River will add more tables in August upstairs plus Texas Holdem.
I might opt to take my business to the  poker. The live roulettes at Twin river are very slow plus high minimums, and the auto roulette at Plain Ridge too fast. Y do they make it so hard to play?
I never had this problem in European casinos. Here I can't even play roulette.
I can only gamble in roulette.