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#### Sputnik

##### Extreme
« on: July 16, 2015, 06:08:41 PM »
EXTREME
This is my baby.

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How to cover 24 unique outcomes with only 15 placed bets.

Lets take clustering patterns into lines of three.
Principal of 1/3.

This is 8 unique combinations/patterns.
I can cover all possibilities for each pattern.

1. BBB
2. BPB
3. BPP
4. BBP
5. PPP
6. PBP
7. PBB
8. PPB

This is banker and player patterns.

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From scratch ...
Lets say you get a pattern with three outcomes.

BBB

This is three banker in a row.
Now i don't want more banker patterns to show.
This is because we are betting against all four banker patterns to show.
This is how the look like.

BBB
BPB
BBP
BPP

So when i have a banker pattern i will bet player next.

BBB
B

I lose my first bet and get one more banker.

Now i bet that next outcome will match my previous pattern, i aim for a repeat.
Then i need BB to hit to be towards BBB.

BBB
BP

I lose my bet.
I got a player, now i know that the banker pattern can not repeat with three banker, as i have banker and player as result.

We wait for next outcome to see what two patterns we will get.

BBB
BPB

Next i don't want any more banker patterns so i bet player.

BBB
BPB
B

I got a new banker pattern, now i will bet that one of the previous two patterns will repeat.
If i get BB i will play BBB and if i get BP i will play BPB.
That way i will catch a repeat.

BBB
BPB
BPP

We lose our bet and we got no repeat of the two previous patterns.

We got a new pattern to show and now we have three unique patterns that start with banker.
Next i don't want a new banker pattern to show so i bet player.

BBB
BPB
BPP
B

We lose the bet.
Now there is only one banker pattern left that could make that all four have a show each with no repeat.
The pattern looks like this.

BBP

Now we have following patterns.

BBB
BPB
BPP
B

Now we have two banker patterns that start with BP and they are BPB and BPP
So if we wait for next outcome to show and it is BP then we can not play for a repeat for BPB or BPP as they both already have a show.
So we have to bet before next decision show and play P as then we would catch one of does two patterns if they would repeat.
Same would be if you had two patterns who begin with BB.

BBB
BPB
BPP
BB

We lose our bet and no repeat of the two patterns i mention above BPB and BPP

Now we only have last bet for BBB to repeat.
If not then we have all four banker pattern to show once each.

BBB
BPB LL
BPP LL
BBP LLL

And we lost all bets.

Now we don't want all 4 player patterns to show once.
So out next bet will be banker.

BBB
BPB
BPP
BBP
P

We lose the bet.
Now everything repeats in the same way and you prevent all 8 possibility to show once with out any repeat.

BBB
BPB LL
BPP LL
BBP LLL
PPB L
PBP LL
PPP LL
PBB LLL

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This is about that a dice with 8 sides will repeat at least once and not show each side once with no repeat.
A dice with 6 sides has 98.2% to repeat at least once during 6 throws (one cycle) and 2.7% to show each side once with no repeat.With 8 sides you get higher probability favoring you, maybe 99% vs 1% ...
And the march or algorithm also capture zig zag ...

Now on topic.
You could see how you could betting against 4 formation to show once each with 4 bets, as i describe above.

BBB
BPB LL
BBP LL
BPP LLL

That is a total of seven bets.This could have been 4 player patterns, but with this example 4 banker patterns.
Now you don't want 4 unique patterns that begin with player, after having 4 unique banker patterns, so next you only bet once for banker to continue and avoid player patterns to show.

BBB
BPB LL
BBP LL
BPP LLL
PPP L

Now you have 4 unique banker patterns and will play that you won't get 4 unique player patterns.Just repeat the formula above.

BBB
BPB LL
BBP LL
BPP LLL
PPP L
PBP LL
PPB LL
PBB LLL

#### Sputnik

##### Re: Extreme
« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2015, 06:13:15 PM »
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99.76% odds of winning ...

Just look at the LW-Registry.
I attach files from random org.
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`2 1 2 1 1 2 W 1 1 2 LW 2 1 1 W 2 2 1 LL 1 1 1 W 1 2 2 LL 2 2 2 W 1 2 1 W 1 2 2 LW 2 2 2 W 1 2 1 W 2 1 1 W 2 1 1 LW 1 1 2 W 1 1 1 LW 1 2 2 LL 1 1 1 LW 1 2 2 LL 1 1 2 LL 2 1 1 W 1 2 1 W 2 2 2 W 1 1 2 W 2 2 2 W 1 1 2 W 2 2 1 W 1 2 2 W 1 1 1 LL 2 2 2 W 2 2 1 LW 1 2 2 W 2 2 1 W 1 1 2 W 1 1 2 LW 2 2 2 W 1 2 2 W 2 2 2 W 1 2 2 W 1 2 1 LW 2 2 2 W 1 1 2 W 2 1 2 W 1 2 1 W 1 2 2 LW 2 2 2 W 2 2 2 LW 1 1 2 W 1 2 1 LL 2 2 2 W 1 1 2 W 1 2 2 LL 2 2 1 W 2 2 1 LW 2 2 2 LW 2 1 1 LL 2 1 2 LW 2 1 2 LW 2 1 1 LW 1 2 1 W 2 1 2 W 1 1 1 W 1 2 2 LL 1 2 2 LW 1 2 1 LW 2 1 2 W 1 2 1 W 2 1 1 W 1 2 2 W 1 2 2 LW 1 1 2 LL 2 2 1 W 1 1 2 W 2 2 2 W 1 1 1 W 1 1 2 LW 2 1 1 W 2 2 2 LL 2 2 1 LL 2 1 1 LLW 2 2 2 LL 2 2 1 LL 1 1 1 W 1 1 1 LW 1 1 2 LW 1 2 2 LL 2 1 1 W 2 2 2 LL 2 2 1 LL 1 2 1 W 2 1 2 W 2 1 2 LW 2 2 2 LL 1 2 2 W 2 2 2 W 1 2 1 W 2 2 2 W 2 1 2 LL 1 1 1 W 1 1 1 LW `

#### Sputnik

##### Re: Extreme
« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2015, 06:17:08 PM »
I come up with Another game plan.
Situationally betting system - a non mechanical system - sequential betting method ...

I solve the optimal algorithm to play this method or as option 2 ...
Look at this LW-Registry:

LWLWLWLLWWWLLWLWLWLWWLWLWWLWWWWWLWLWWWWWWWLWWLLWLLLWWLW

3 loses once during 300 trails.
There is no triggers of bet selections, it is sequential betting following how the random flow unfold.
Still betting that not all uniq 8 patterns will show.

This is how Situationally betting looks like:

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` 1 1 2 1 2 1  2 2 2  2 1 1 2 2 1 L 1 2 1 W 1 2 2 L 2 1 1 2 2 2 2 2 2 W 2 1 2 1 1 1 1 2 1 2 2 1 L 1 2 1 W 1 1 1 1 2 2 L 2 2 1 2 2 2 L 1 2 2 W 2 2 1 2 2 1 W 1 1 1 1 1 1 W 1 2 2 1 2 1 L 2 1 2 2 2 1 1 1 1 LW 2 2 1 2 1 1 2 2 2 L 1 2 2 1 1 1 W 2 1 2 1 1 2 L 1 1 1 W 1 1 2 L 1 1 2 W 1 2 2 1 2 2 W 1 1 1 1 2 1 L 2 1 1 1 1 1 W 2 2 2 1 1 2 L 2 2 2 W 1 2 1 2 1 1 2 2 2 W 1 2 2 1 2 1 L 1 1 1 2 1 1 2 2 2 W 2 2 2 W 1 1 2 2 2 2 W 2 2 2 W 2 2 2 W 2 1 2  2 2 1 L 2 1 2 W 2 1 1 L 2 1 1 W 2 2 1 1 2 1 1 1 2 1 1 2 W 2 2 2 1 1 2 W 2 2 1 1 2 1 2 2 1 W 2 2 1 W 2 2 1 W 2 2 1 W 2 1 2 1 1 1 2 2 2 L 2 2 2 W 1 2 1 1 2 1 W 2 2 2 2 1 2 1 2 2 L 2 1 1 L 1 2 2 W 2 1 1 2 1 2 L 1 2 1 L 1 1 2 L 2 1 2 W 1 1 2 1 1 2 W 2 1 2 1 1 1 L 2 1 2 W 2 2 2`
2014 06 05 random org

LWLLWWWWLWLWLWWWWLWWWWLWLWWWWWWWLWLWLWLWWWWWWW

Sequence ...
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` 2 1 11 2 12 2 21 2 2 L1 2 2 W1 1 11 1 2 L1 2 1 L2 2 21 2 1 W1 2 1 W2 2 12 2 1 W1 1 21 1 2 W1 2 22 1 11 2 1 L1 2 1 W2 1 21 1 11 1 2 L2 1 2 W1 1 12 2 12 2 2 L2 2 1 W1 2 22 1 22 2 1 W1 2 12 1 11 2 1 W1 2 1 W2 1 11 1 21 1 1 L2 1 1 W1 2 21 1 12 1 1 W2 1 1 W2 1 1 W1 2 12 2 11 1 22 1 1 L2 1 1 W2 2 11 2 1 2 1 2 L1 1 21 2 1 W2 2 21 2 1 W2 1 22 2 21 2 1 W2 1 22 1 2 W1 1 11 1 1 W1 2 12 2 12 1 22 1 2 W2 1 2 W1 1 21 2 11 2 2 L1 2 2 W2 2 22 1 22 1 1 L1 1 22 2 2 W2 2 1 L1 1 21 2 22 2 2 W2 1 11 2 12 1 2 L2 2 2 W1 1 12 1 22 2 2 W1 2 12 2 2 W1 2 11 2 1 W2 1 21 1 11 1 1 W2 1 22 1 2 W1 2 22 2 11 2 2 W1 2 2 W `
« Last Edit: July 16, 2015, 06:18:40 PM by Sputnik »

#### Sputnik

##### Re: Extreme
« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2015, 06:20:59 PM »

I come to many conclusion during this patch ...
Does who not fully understand can read the two PDFs i attach ...

Will explain in more detail how to get does LW-Registrys ...

#### Sputnik

##### Re: Extreme
« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2015, 06:34:13 PM »

I find one losing session where 99.76% of winning fail ... i find 8 uniq patterns that i cover with only 8 loses ...
Random org 2015 07 11

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`1 1 21 2 12 2 11 2 1 W1 1 11 1 2 L2 2 12 2 2 L2 1 22 1 1 L1 2 2 LL1 2 1 LLL1 2 22 1 11 2 1 L1 2 1 W2 1 12 1 1 W`

#### kav

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##### Re: Extreme
« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2015, 08:09:23 PM »
Hello Sputnik,
Thanks for posting this

#### Sputnik

##### Re: Extreme
« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2015, 07:24:31 AM »

Here is some more results from random org:

2015 07 16
LLWLLWWWWLWWLWLLLWLLWWLWLLWWLLWWWLWLLWWWWLLLWW

2015 07 15
LLLWLWLWWWWWLLWWLWWWWLWWWWLWLWLWWLWWLLW

#### Constantinvs

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##### Re: Extreme
« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2015, 02:22:01 PM »
Hi Sputnik,

I will simplify my anterior question. How can I bet with this system? Can you or someone show me how?

Constantinvs
« Last Edit: August 11, 2015, 10:24:38 AM by Constantinvs »

#### weird

##### Re: Extreme
« Reply #8 on: August 18, 2015, 05:44:01 AM »
Sputnik,

I see that if u arrange the win/loss as a series /single..thus your,
loser Random org 2015 07 11
that[wLLLLLLLLLww]could be arrange into

w
LLLLLLLLL
WW

bet after a W, and u win once and lose once.

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2015 07 16
LLWLLWWWWLWWLWLLLWLLWWLWLLWWLLWWWLWLLWWWWLLLWW

LL
W
LL
WWWW
L
WW
L
W
LLL
W
LL
WW
L
W
LL
WW
LL
WWW
L
W
LL
WWWW
LLL
WW

7w
5losses

#### weird

##### Re: Extreme
« Reply #9 on: August 18, 2015, 06:54:06 AM »
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99.76% odds of winning ...

Just look at the LW-Registry.
I attach files from random org.
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`2 1 2 1 1 2 W 1 1 2 LW 2 1 1 W 2 2 1 LL 1 1 1 W 1 2 2 LL 2 2 2 W 1 2 1 W 1 2 2 LW 2 2 2 W 1 2 1 W 2 1 1 W 2 1 1 LW 1 1 2 W 1 1 1 LW 1 2 2 LL 1 1 1 LW 1 2 2 LL 1 1 2 LL 2 1 1 W 1 2 1 W 2 2 2 W 1 1 2 W 2 2 2 W 1 1 2 W 2 2 1 W 1 2 2 W 1 1 1 LL 2 2 2 W 2 2 1 LW 1 2 2 W 2 2 1 W 1 1 2 W 1 1 2 LW 2 2 2 W 1 2 2 W 2 2 2 W 1 2 2 W 1 2 1 LW 2 2 2 W 1 1 2 W 2 1 2 W 1 2 1 W 1 2 2 LW 2 2 2 W 2 2 2 LW 1 1 2 W 1 2 1 LL 2 2 2 W 1 1 2 W 1 2 2 LL 2 2 1 W 2 2 1 LW 2 2 2 LW 2 1 1 LL 2 1 2 LW 2 1 2 LW 2 1 1 LW 1 2 1 W 2 1 2 W 1 1 1 W 1 2 2 LL 1 2 2 LW 1 2 1 LW 2 1 2 W 1 2 1 W 2 1 1 W 1 2 2 W 1 2 2 LW 1 1 2 LL 2 2 1 W 1 1 2 W 2 2 2 W 1 1 1 W 1 1 2 LW 2 1 1 W 2 2 2 LL 2 2 1 LL 2 1 1 LLW 2 2 2 LL 2 2 1 LL 1 1 1 W 1 1 1 LW 1 1 2 LW 1 2 2 LL 2 1 1 W 2 2 2 LL 2 2 1 LL 1 2 1 W 2 1 2 W 2 1 2 LW 2 2 2 LL 1 2 2 W 2 2 2 W 1 2 1 W 2 2 2 W 2 1 2 LL 1 1 1 W 1 1 1 LW `
Next i don't want a new banker pattern to show so i bet player.
Next i don't want any more banker patterns so i bet player.
Now i don't want more banker patterns to show.
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The above statement shows that , u play accordingly by what u think...
it difficult to follow.
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I Think, if we bet like mechanical, without whim&fancy,
[matrix three]the result will not far away...from near equilibrium.

2 1 2
1 1 2 WLL=L
1 1 2 LLL=LLL
2 1 1 WLW=W
2 2 1 LWL=L
1 1 1 WWW=WWW
1 2 2 LWW=W
2 2 2 WLL=L
1 2 1 WLW=W
1 2 2 LLW=L
2 2 2 WLL=L
1 2 1 WLW=W
2 1 1 WWL=L
2 1 1 LLL=LLL
1 1 2 WLW=W
1 1 1 LLW=L
1 2 2 LWW=W
1 1 1 LWW=W
1 2 2 LWW=W
1 1 2 LWL=L
2 1 1 WLW=W
1 2 1 WWL=W
2 2 2 WLW=W
1 1 2 WWL=W
2 2 2 WWL=W
1 1 2 WWL=W
2 2 1 LLW=L
1 2 2 WLW=W
1 1 1 LWW=W
2 2 2 WWW=WWW
2 2 1 LLW=L
1 2 2 WLW=W
2 2 1 WLW=W
1 1 2 WWL=W
1 1 2 LLL=LLL
2 2 2 WWL=W
1 2 2 WLL=L
2 2 2 WLL=L
1 2 2 WLL=L
1 2 1 WLW=W
2 2 2 WLW=W
1 1 2 WWL=W
2 1 2 WLL=L
1 2 1 WWW=WWW
1 2 2 LLW=L
2 2 2 WLL=L
2 2 2 LLL=LLL
1 1 2 WWL=W
1 2 1 LWW=W
2 2 2 WLW=W
1 1 2 WWL=W
1 2 2 LWL=L
2 2 1 LWL=L
2 2 1 LLL=LLL
2 2 2 LLW=L
2 1 1 LWW=W
2 1 2 LLW=L
2 1 2 LLL=LLL
2 1 1 LLW=L
1 2 1 WWL=W
2 1 2 WWW=WWW
1 1 1 WLW=W
1 2 2 LWW=W
1 2 2 LLL=LLL
1 2 1 LLW=L
2 1 2 WWW=WWW
1 2 1 WWW=WWW
2 1 1 WWL=W
1 2 2 WWW=WWW
1 2 2 LLL=LLL
1 1 2 LWL=L
2 2 1 WWW=WWW
1 1 2 WWW=WWW
2 2 2 WWL=W
1 1 1 WWW=WWW
1 1 2 LLW=L
2 1 1 WLW=W
2 2 2 LWW=W
2 2 1 LLW=L
2 1 1 LWL=L
2 2 2 LWW=W
2 2 1 LLW=L
1 1 1 WWL=W
1 1 1 LLL=LLL
1 1 2 LLW=L
1 2 2 LWL=L
2 1 1 WWW=WWW
2 2 2 LWW=W
2 2 1 LLW=L
1 2 1 WLL=L
2 1 2 WWW=WWW
2 1 2 LLL=LLL
2 2 2 LWL=L
1 2 2 WLL=L
2 2 2 WLL=L
1 2 1 WLW=W
2 2 2 WLW=W
2 1 2 LWL=L
1 1 1 WLW=W
1 1 1 LLL=LLL

#### Sputnik

##### Re: Extreme
« Reply #10 on: August 18, 2015, 08:43:05 AM »

Hello ,,, i am taking a pause from roulette and invest my bankroll into gold ...

Cheers

#### dobbelsteen

##### Re: Extreme
« Reply #11 on: August 18, 2015, 09:09:00 AM »
My  LW sequence of a EC sample.

LLWLLLWWWLLLLLWWWLWLWLLLWLLLWLLLLLLLLLLLWLLWWLLWWLLWWLLLLWLLLLWLLW
I have bet total 865 units, the payout  886 with a profit of 21 units. Profit 2,43%

#### Reyth

##### Re: Extreme
« Reply #12 on: October 07, 2017, 04:09:46 AM »
I am not sure I understand.  I am counting 21 losses in a row.  Even including the 0 in roulette, I show the following odds against this happening as:

99.99991

Why do you say its only 99.76%?

BBB (0)
BPB LL (3)
BBP LL (3)
BPP LLL (3)
PPP L (3)
PBP LL (3)
PPB LL (3)
PBB LLL (3)

Isn't the true odds based on the pattern and not our bets?
« Last Edit: October 07, 2017, 04:14:50 AM by Reyth »

#### Sputnik

##### Re: Extreme
« Reply #13 on: October 07, 2017, 09:08:57 AM »

R i have improve this with less placement to cover 99%
I can explain this with private PM

It has to do how i solve the puzzel with Eriscott HG
I can show you situational betting that is not mechancial

LWLWLWLLWWWLLWLWLWLWWLWLWWLWWWWWLWLWWWWWWWLWWLLWLLLWWLW

Cheers

#### dobbelsteen

##### Re: Extreme
« Reply #14 on: October 09, 2017, 03:10:37 PM »
Sputnik why not an Excel simulation? With out a computer i can create also a LLWWWLWLW WWLWLWLW WWWWWW  sequence.
I doubt ,if there is someone who understand what you are doing.