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#### Jesper

##### We will win 100% IF......
« on: June 06, 2015, 06:45:25 AM »
We hear sometimes claims for 100% winning system. There is allways an IF.  A martingale works 100% IF we are able to do the next bet.  Other works IF a run of 8 comes in 400 spins.
Some system claims it is just a small bankroll, which can not survive the variance.

A bankroll too small for the method, is bad. That's the reason I like casinos using low bet and still allow high bet.

The NOZ eliminate the unfair odds, and it is "only" the variance to overcome. That is hard, the expectation of the long run is +/- 0. The variance if it goes down we lose the risking Money, before a win target make us losing. NoZ Wheel use to have a time limit for a session, and that make it costly to continue an other day. So we have to end sessions on plus, minimizing the fee.

I am gong to start a play, using 100 Euro, which is far below a decent bankroll according to my method, but it can work, if I lose them, I will decide if I top up or take the loss.

The method is a 100% Winner IF, the repeating numbers not are more than single numbers in a session. IF the bankroll not reach zero  Before it turn better, and the table limit will be high enough.

If we survive long enough, the variance have a near 100% together with the prog, to make a win.

We start betting 35 numbers, using lowest possible bet. If win or lose we add a chip on the last betting numbers except the hitted. The hitted number we take away all chips, if it is less than 36, otherwise 36.  We run until we are decent plus, or break even id the bets are high.

If we could play until the table is empty, we will have a large win 100%, but it is adviceable to start over on a decent plus.

The risk of hitting the table limit of 600000 is minor. The risk of losing a the bankroll is according to its size, and the amount the player can accept losing .   2000 units is the size I start with, and it is  10% of what is realistic. With a good start it can turn out 10 fold.

I did the first. It Went down to at most 26 Euro, which is  1480 of the 2000 units, and ended at 2742, which is 137.1 Euro. Such downdrown is expected, the bankroll is too low. The win% is high, expected as well, due to the low bankroll.  40 spins were made in this first session.
The risk of ruin is not low.

I will start over then I get time. It is holyday here today.

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#### Jesper

##### Re: We will win 100% IF......
« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2015, 07:07:41 AM »
Did another short session. As I got nine spins witout a repeating number, I decide to stop, and the
balance is now.151.35. (I do help until next play

started with the 35 first numbers exkluding 36.

I streak with no repeating number makes no losing spin.

#### Reyth

##### Re: We will win 100% IF......
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2015, 07:10:50 AM »
I found a method similar to this on YouTube.  The difference here is you progress on every spin, whereas this other fellow only removes chips (except for the repeaters which he never removes).

I think your strategy seems much better as "as long as single numbers outweigh repeaters".  It almost sounds like you must win if your bankroll is big enough to outlast any "repeater streaks".

I am tempted to put this into a computer and see how it does...

Why not just start over on a positive balance?
« Last Edit: June 06, 2015, 12:51:13 PM by Reyth »

#### Jesper

##### Re: We will win 100% IF......
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2015, 07:45:26 AM »
Starting over a every positive balance, will be Close to bet all numbers except one and gain just one a spin, until a loss of 35. The progression starts then on a streak of repeaters.

I do sometimes the opposite, play repeters. Then I start wit the last fallen and add a chip until it is max seven. On a hit I use grand martingale progression on the hitted number. Start over as soon on decent plus.

#### Jesper

##### Re: We will win 100% IF......
« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2015, 08:13:12 AM »
Got some nasty repeaters, and the bets Went up. Stopped a a win of about 200 units.

Balance now is  163.75.   equal to 3275 units: 1275 +.

#### Jesper

##### Re: We will win 100% IF......
« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2015, 08:36:04 AM »
This short session started with a hit on 36, the only number not covered.

Stopped at  173.50 balance.   3470 u.   73.50 plus or  1470 u.

No large downdrawn.

#### Jesper

##### Re: We will win 100% IF......
« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2015, 09:39:57 AM »
Double the bankroll at this session. I think it is about 50% doing it.  The bankroll of 2000 unit is for the method small. I was large down after some misses.

If we double the bankroll with 50% probability, it should be 25% to do it twice. If done once, it is 50% chance to repeat it.
Every method on a NOZ should have at least 50.001 % chance to double, otherwise a spin on an EC with all Money is better (excluding the fact it is fun to play).

Session Went 19 spins.

Balance 200.40   100.4 plus or  2008 u.

#### Jesper

##### Re: We will win 100% IF......
« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2015, 09:55:31 AM »
An 8 spin session. No number repeated, so no losing spin. After 8 number it is expected  more than 50% a repeat.

Balance is 210.60.

I Think still it may work using this small bankroll, a bust can come fast. It is win or bust play!
« Last Edit: June 06, 2015, 09:57:34 AM by Jesper »

#### Jesper

##### Re: We will win 100% IF......
« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2015, 10:10:42 AM »
The same as last 8 spin, no losing spin.

Balance is 220.80 or  4416   plus is  2416 u.

#### Jesper

##### Re: We will win 100% IF......
« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2015, 10:32:23 AM »
An eleven spin session, had miss once at number 10.

Balance is 230.15.

For some strange reason I am feeling the next can be harder. At least I can dive 200 Euro and may be come back.

#### Jesper

##### Re: We will win 100% IF......
« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2015, 11:02:31 AM »
24 spins a few misses. Pictures overlap, still possible to follow.

The balance is now  254.50.

It is 154.50 Euro winning, the net is 90% of that, as every session Went plus it is 10% of the net winning. 139.90.

I stop here, it is may be not sensible to challenge the luck using a bankroll which is far small for the method.

Better switch the play if not deposit more, I do switching.

#### Reyth

##### Re: We will win 100% IF......
« Reply #11 on: June 06, 2015, 12:50:25 PM »
When you start over, you just go immediately with 35 chips, you don't wait X number of spins to re-start?

LOL.  This system is so funny, its like "who needs pen & paper, let the chips track the cold numbers!" X D

And you're looking for that ONE BET, the one that gets you the GOOD profit & has MAX ODDS to hit too!

I decided to stop out at 157 units profit after 11 spins & 2 repeaters; didn't have the guts to go for 200 units like you!

2000 units is too small??  Really??

Just went 8 spins with no misses, & 112 units profit.  I play on a single zero wheel.
« Last Edit: June 06, 2015, 01:22:49 PM by Reyth »

#### random

##### Re: We will win 100% IF......
« Reply #12 on: June 06, 2015, 12:55:25 PM »
Congratulations! You more than doubled your Bankroll

#### Reyth

##### Re: We will win 100% IF......
« Reply #13 on: June 06, 2015, 01:31:01 PM »
Hey don't give up on this, OK?

#### dobbelsteen

##### Re: We will win 100% IF......
« Reply #14 on: June 06, 2015, 01:39:14 PM »
Jesper make first a picture  of the board with the scissors program. Afterthen you can past the picture with the tynipic program. The picture is direct in the reply and also readable for quest who are not inloged. I use this method also in my replies.