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MickyP

Successful RNG players?
« on: July 31, 2019, 08:26:19 AM »
Are there any successful RNG or online players on the forum?

Playing on B/M casino tables and earning a few chips a session keep a player under the radar to a point. If you play online, surely you are limited to only a few reputable casinos with good business practices; so, how do stay under he radar when everything you do is reflected on your online account? If an online casino picks up that you constantly withdraw x amount every few days, will they not terminate your membership?

In short, can a player earn a reasonable monthly wage from playing online roulette?

 

Jesper

Re: Successful RNG players?
« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2019, 08:45:41 AM »
They are not so fast doing it, at least they I use. I do not win large amount, but a withdraw of 6000 Euro was not any problem. What some casinos do, if you win much, make a lot of paperwork, and even pay out in portions over some month. They can limit your winning, so you will not be able to win more than a limit.  It should not be much problem with casinos paying license fee in my Country. We do not pay tax on winnings, they tax the casinos.

Casinos making cheating, will soon lose reputation.
Most players lose anyhow, they have theire hold, so why do not pay out the winning. A player can hardly cheat an on line casino.  I have heard of players which bet very few spins on an heavy used line can be throwing out because of inactivity.

I have had problem a few times, but it was casinos which we not should use from start.
 
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GIAJJENNO

Re: Successful RNG players?
« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2019, 08:49:26 AM »
I advise to play online, but must do some things to "stay under the radar". If you win consistently, I dont know how much daily, dont withdraw it immediately. Wait few days, or a week, 2 weeks and wihdraw a bigger amount, but in the same way deposit too, so they will see that you not just withdraw. Deposit more times smaller amount. Go to play slot machines twice a week, and just spend, give a casino back some free chips, they will see you are gambler, and not serious roulette player. I dont know if they watch the amount how much you withdraw and deposit, maybe they are able, but it should not be a problem.

Try bitstarz.com. I not heard about that they would bann someone because he withdraw big amount monthly. But of course, if money congragate to a big amount, it is hardery but just keep yourself to a play. If you win 1000 euro a day, or 3000 euro in 3 days, wihdraw 1500 and deposit 500, and do this the next 3 days. It will out for you the clear 3000 euro. Wait few days, deposit 2-3x 100 euro, thand withdraw 1500 again, deposit 250, do this again. Go some blackjack, slot machine to lose 10-20 euro.

Hope I helped.
 
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MickyP

Re: Successful RNG players?
« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2019, 09:10:38 AM »
Thanks guys. I'm asking out of curiosity and not because I want to begin playing online. I have a good approach at B/M casinos and am happy for now but when I relocate I may not have the luxury of so many casinos on my doorstep, so, its always good to probe other options.

Do the American players prefer online European roulette (single zero) to American roulette (double zero) in B/M casinos? If the answer is yes then I can understand the reason but would you rather play on a B/M casino table than online and deal with the disadvantage of an extra zero just to make sure you can access your winning immediately?
 

GIAJJENNO

Re: Successful RNG players?
« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2019, 09:20:50 AM »
No, never American roulette. The 2 extra number is lot. I dont cover the 0, I not play singles, so for me one zero is bad too, not even double zero. Whit one zero maybe I can deal, but with one more extra shot its a lot yet.
 

ahlidap

Re: Successful RNG players?
« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2019, 11:12:38 AM »
Deposit 100, accept bonus, lose all.
Then, deposit 200, lose only 50 on slots, then play to win.
Before withdrawal, just make sure to lose 20 to 25 on slots.
This way you will be safe to withdraw.

C'mon guys.. Is that really necessary?
Computers, Databases, transactions IDs, e-wallets ids, VISA / MASTERCARD cards numbers, verification (KYC) processes that verify all of these.. and you're gonna "trick" the casino with losing on purpose? (not to talk about different casinos owned by the same companies, and people don't even notice)

Micky, reputable and legal casinos. (just check askgamblers for example, Thomas shared another website of this kind recently)

Pick B&M casino tables (there are some of them to chose, from Malta, Germany, Romania, UK, Switzerland.. it will be the same game as if you were there at the moment).

A good thing that was said is that, some casinos have their own restrictions (max weekly / monthly withdraw - just have another account on another reputable casino || longer pending times to make players cancel their withdrawals and return to play, and lose -- you're stronger than that)

That's it.
 

GIAJJENNO

Re: Successful RNG players?
« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2019, 11:34:19 AM »

Micky, reputable and legal casinos. (just check askgamblers for example, Thomas shared another website of this kind recently)

On askgamblers are extralarge fake profil from the casinos, who wrotes good about doghorses*** casinos.
 

Jesper

Re: Successful RNG players?
« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2019, 12:07:06 PM »
Americans play American roulette at places there it also is European, I do not know if it is patriot thinking, or they think it is better to have more numbers to chose. ???

I have used NOZ a lot.
 

Jesper

Re: Successful RNG players?
« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2019, 02:20:49 PM »
I publish systems which can work at RNG better as BM.  Lots of small bullits.  I am very close to the HG, not there, as once in 10000 spins there is a risk of a big loss.   I am at the opinion the distribution of the numbers never reach the probability. We see near never all numbers in a spin of 36.  I do then a lot of numbers with small stakes, and are "almost" sure it is winning. I have shown some methods, but still not the "heart" of the idea. I did it once for some years ago, and that casino change some rules.  The NOZ become time depended, you could not fight more then 24 hours instead of a week or more. If you do not play in an hour, the NOZ will take the share of 10 %. before it was at with draw. I got at that time good winnings. As a sole they may not change the rules, but I publish my findings.
 

MickyP

Re: Successful RNG players?
« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2019, 03:55:34 PM »
Jesper, with all due respect, I think your random number selection as a target for a win drags you down. Do you actually make a living from roulette? I mean you play pennies on an online platform. I know small wins add up but your cost of doing roulette business is excessive to say the least.

DrTalos plays in a similar fashion to you in that he selects a target at random. I'm sorry, but my experience favours prediction not only of specific numbers but of defined zones on the wheel. Without prediction methods in place there is about a 33% chance that you will not get a hit within a spin cycle of 37 spins. It is for this reason that your game runs into hundreds of spins to realize a small profit. Your approach is not playable on a B/M table, especially with minimum chip values and low table limits.

I maintain that there is a big distinction between online and B/M roulette play. I know that there are many players who earn well on the B/M tables but I'm afraid that online roulette is a different beast. Maybe Thomasleor wins on his online platforms but I doubt if he can rely on his roulette income alone. I know MrPerfect plays online at times but the actual tables played amounts for the greater portion of his roulette income. Third is in the process of establishing himself as an online player but has he reached the point where he can comfortably earn a good income from roulette? I think not and I say this based on his continuous chasing and testing systems. I know its a good process to learn and improve oneself but if you have a winning approach then the search should simply be a secondary learning exercise. Third/Reyth is not there yet. So, is there one online player that earns enough from roulette to only play online and not have to rely on a supplementary income?
 
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Jesper

Re: Successful RNG players?
« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2019, 04:19:37 PM »
I did even read all of your post. I have never claim I live on roulette.  I have my life with a steady income, as retired  from retirement insurance, and that the state retirement gives. Roulette is more as a hobby. I am winning yes, but it is not my bread and butter. I got every month about 2000 Euro, and my wife little more.  I play for fun, with smaller stakes, I am winning, but not for living.

 

MickyP

Re: Successful RNG players?
« Reply #11 on: August 01, 2019, 03:13:31 AM »
Good for you Jesper. I meant no disrespect and I did try and explain what I was getting at, besides, I did start the post with "with all due respect".
 

Re: Successful RNG players?
« Reply #12 on: August 01, 2019, 12:42:06 PM »
I've been playing RNG for a long time.

My overall score of the past ten months is profit.

I tell you how I behave with online casinos, you can trust me or not it's up to you.

First of all, I play four-six sessions a day from at least three different casinos.

This way I can keep my session goal target low and try to compound the profits.

I only play from tuesday morning until satudarday morning: thus I avoid playing from saturday afternoon to all monday. In my experience (and not only mine) RNG provide more "resistance" in those days maybe because the traffic is higher, or I don't know.

Weekend I go the BM casino.

With RNG now I play only hot repeaters methods, because they are the only that can work. I completely avoid sectors systems, combo bets, bets with >80% probability, because after few spins the number generators starts playing against you - consider that I only play in online casinos which are allowed by the government...

Someone said that RNG is not Roulette, and in fact it's true. But it is exposed to the same laws, and a RNG in a "fair phase" operates just like a wheel: it provides the same patterns.

Sometimes you hit a session you simply can't win. YOU CAN'T so you have to set up a loss limit and quit as soon as possible. Possibly you avoid playing again on that platform for the day. Other times sessions are ridicolously easy, so you have to push hard for bigger profits. Just like in a real session.

Almost every time I received a bonus I lost the next session.

Almost every time I cash out money I meet a very tough session and must remember to myself to stay conservative and keep a low profile for the day on that platform.

I try to withdraw money about every two weeks from any casinos I am in profit, using a particular MM strategy for my bankroll on any sites. Usually I cash out from 150 to 300€ when things go fine (I bet cents).

Fighting against RNG is a war. But going to BM casinos is not a walk under the stars. Always it's a struggle. Therefore try and limit the outflows (time, fuel, etc.) and playing from home is worth of it.
« Last Edit: August 01, 2019, 12:48:27 PM by Astutillo »
 
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Jesper

Re: Successful RNG players?
« Reply #13 on: August 01, 2019, 01:57:09 PM »
RNG can be played, but you have a bit more to understand. HOW can a weekday or something irrelevant make impact of the outcome??   
 

MickyP

Re: Successful RNG players?
« Reply #14 on: August 01, 2019, 02:59:22 PM »
Astutillo, you raised some very good points about RNG/ online play. I am not qualified to comment from an experience perspective on RNG/online roulette so thank you for clearing a few things up. From what you shared the general perception is that RNG/online is rigged.

B/M tables have a degree of consistency to them and trends tend to change with croupier changes but this not a hard and fast fact. B/M table play is tough but once you get tuned into playing on tables the game opens up somewhat.
 
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