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#### MrPerfect.

##### Out of topic posts
« on: June 11, 2019, 08:01:39 PM »
If you got a good system, you should understand reason why it lost. If it's due to variance alone... then continue play,  if it's due conditions that are non favorable, you should stop for a beer.. hour.. dealer..  till the sun goes up..
If you do not understand why system lost, stop playing all together.

This makes complete sense

But how do you understand if the loss is due to variance alone or other accidents?
for that need to base system on something other then only spin results, like spins themselves and conditions in wich they happen.  Spins offer many points of control, resulting number is only one of them. For example while ball spins, rotor does something as well ...  with different speeds, ball falling different places in different ways..  it all can and should be accounted when creating your bet selection.
If you did everything right, you can plot the graph of your bet selection performance in time.. differences between high and low picks on graph will permit you to estimate variance that you could expirience in game, how many spins are needed to win...ets. In short, need to do homework.

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#### scepticus

##### Re: Out of topic posts
« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2019, 11:01:14 PM »
" for that need to base system on something other then only spin results, like spins themselves and conditions in wich they happen. "  Mr Perfect.

You are quite wrong to say that , Mr Perfect.  It is clear that your continued repetition of that  fallacy  is to induce the gullible to  seek your advice -- at a price .   Even if it were true the casinos could easily counter it by calling No More Bets as soon as the ball is launched.

#### MrPerfect.

##### Re: Out of topic posts
« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2019, 11:51:08 PM »
" for that need to base system on something other then only spin results, like spins themselves and conditions in wich they happen. "  Mr Perfect.

You are quite wrong to say that , Mr Perfect.  It is clear that your continued repetition of that  fallacy  is to induce the gullible to  seek your advice -- at a price .   Even if it were true the casinos could easily counter it by calling No More Bets as soon as the ball is launched.

Quite a cretin statement from you , my archaic senile friend. On your opinion l ( together with the industry itself) am wrong?
1. I'm not an adviser,  same as you are not a roulette player.
2. Correlation between spin variables and spin results is a secret only for you personally. All other adequate individuals within the industry already figured this one out. On both sides of the table.
3. Stop being jealous to me making money, it's not your business,  just get a life , if you are able.
4. This correlation is exactly the thing what enable player to bet before spin.
5. "Gullible" is not applicable to my students. I teach roulette,  not 9 blocks.

#### MrPerfect.

##### Re: Out of topic posts
« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2019, 11:59:50 PM »
I am the homework man
would you like to put it to the test?
I'm running unprecedented promotion. I teach folks to play dealer signature in order for them to win money to pay my vb course.  It started with Bulow  ( fellow forum member) and looks like it may work...  at least him was reporting small test wins almost from the start. If you wanna try it out, contact me. Only reasonable thing required is to do the homework.

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#### scepticus

##### Re: Out of topic posts
« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2019, 10:58:49 AM »
You have a good line in abuse Mr  Perfect.  Your imagination is  also in good working order.

You think I am jealous of you ? When  I have  said that I don’t believe your hype ? Your claim that  players should not balk at paying \$3,000  for advice on how to play VB because they could  easily make that back ! Really ?

You are - or was - the moderator of  VB in this forum . Why don’t you teach  other members about the magic of VB there ? Perhaps because there is no profit in it for you  ?

Your view that there is a difference between  players and gamblers shows that you don’t even realise everyone who plays roulette  IS gambling .

I invited you to show your alleged skills in a real casino . You declined .

Until you offer to show your alleged  skills in a real casino I think newbies should decline your offer. They will get knowledge of  VB / AP by  reading books such as -
“ Get the Edge at Roulette “ by Christopher Pawlicki  - or

“ Spin Roulette Gold “ by Frank Scoblette.

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#### MrPerfect.

##### Re: Out of topic posts
« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2019, 05:56:00 PM »
You have a good line in abuse Mr  Perfect.  Your imagination is  also in good working order.

You think I am jealous of you ? When  I have  said that I don’t believe your hype ? Your claim that  players should not balk at paying \$3,000  for advice on how to play VB because they could  easily make that back ! Really ?

You are - or was - the moderator of  VB in this forum . Why don’t you teach  other members about the magic of VB there ? Perhaps because there is no profit in it for you  ?

Your view that there is a difference between  players and gamblers shows that you don’t even realise everyone who plays roulette  IS gambling .

I invited you to show your alleged skills in a real casino . You declined .

Until you offer to show your alleged  skills in a real casino I think newbies should decline your offer. They will get knowledge of  VB / AP by  reading books such as -
“ Get the Edge at Roulette “ by Christopher Pawlicki  - or

“ Spin Roulette Gold “ by Frank Scoblette.

Scepticus,  l will be absolutely open with you.
I have no interest in you or any other member in this forum. From hundreds of people who visit it and registered here only 1% is my target auditory.  About others l do not give a f***.
I only interested in helping people who deserves help, have shown it by own self motivated dedication and is dicceplined enough to follow directly stated playing model. Only these who do, these are welcome to contact me. These who tolk, post, research, breaking their brain with roulette... are out.
I do not search leaches,  only colaborators.
I do not look to educate anyone, for me all of you can permanence in dark and never wake up to reality. I'm in business to play and to study play opportunities,  everything else does not bother me.
What lm looking here is to give a chance to these who like myself in the past... beat with face on the wall trying to figure out how to beat demn thing and make money during the process.  You can see their feedback in my vb section where lm still a moderator.
I do not teach for free, do not work for free, do not bother to get up from my bed in the morning for free. I may give a chance,  like now, giving away info just enough to make some profit in order to make person able to pay me , if they are dedicated enough.  I want colaborators being invested 100% in what they are doing. If l could buy info I'm after, l would prefer to pay with the money... unfortunately it's not the case. Only solution l found is to help others to help me. This is exactly what l do here. I look for others to help me help themselves. .. it's a mutual help in best human traditions.
I would like to specifically state one more time that lm tired of your cretin statements. No one win after reading books you mentioned. If you not prove me wrong l will call you a cretin on regular basis. Show me one !!! I do not ask for more.

##### Re: Out of topic posts
« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2019, 06:40:03 PM »

Mr Perfect, un cretin ca fait longtemp que je n'ai pas entendu ce mot, ca fait plaisir.
R.

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#### scepticus

##### Re: Out of topic posts
« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2019, 07:32:16 PM »
Thanks Mr. perfect for confirming my suspicions . You are only here for the money !

Thanks  also for your honesty in saying   that you  don't give a f^ck for 99%  of the  members here .

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#### MrPerfect.

##### Re: Out of topic posts
« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2019, 08:51:27 PM »

Mr Perfect, un cretin ca fait longtemp que je n'ai pas entendu ce mot, ca fait plaisir.
R.
Rinad,  l do not have a pleasure to call people this way. But in his particular case, how else can l call him? He simply do not follow common logic , he is not in this game for money, he only posts to keep senile mind exercised. It's just one more nullity that exist only for inconvenience of others. I come to speak roulette,  he comes to speak others... instead of roulette forum it becomes a circus.  I am not a big fun of clowns from childhood and yet here he is jumping from every conner. Or he is payed to do so by casinos or he is a cretin,  l do not see any other alternative.

#### Astutillo

##### Re: Out of topic posts
« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2019, 09:02:23 PM »
Thanks Mr. perfect for confirming my suspicions . You are only here for the money !

Thanks  also for your honesty in saying   that you  don't give a f^ck for 99%  of the  members here .

Scep,
I guess we cannot blame MrPerfect for this.
I think we all are here for the money!
I'm here to improve my skills and perspectives about the game, not to make friends.
I want to make money, more money. If I make new friends or mentors along the path It's great! But the main feature is making money. Guys we bet for the bucks

Or not?
« Last Edit: June 12, 2019, 09:15:56 PM by Astutillo »

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#### MrPerfect.

##### Re: Out of topic posts
« Reply #10 on: June 14, 2019, 06:06:42 AM »
Scepticus, it's a third forum where l do look for a people to work with me. THIRD!!! Not the first and not the second. During many years l do so, l had many costumers and colaborators.  The only cretin wining about the money is you. And you didn't pay me anything. Few of my costumers didn't manage to make the money, roulette proved itself too complicated / difficult to make the money for many reasons... no time, no enough effort, gambling impulse. ..ets.
But ,somehow, my costumers are OK. No one blame me, if not you.  You are the one who is not fine. You sleep and see the money  l do/ charge/ win... so what is your problem?  What is your point? Do you think me calling you a cretin is not motivated?  Looks like you are only one here who thinks this way. For the rest of members is evident who you are.
Would you consider to simply let me be the way l am and get a life on your own?

« Last Edit: June 14, 2019, 06:39:16 AM by MrPerfect. »

#### scepticus

##### Re: Out of topic posts
« Reply #11 on: June 14, 2019, 08:56:52 AM »
No  Mr Perfect , I won't leave you alone until you stop claiming that profiting from roulette  is EASY !

I have always attacked ANYONE who claims it is easy  -  not just you !   So , the ball is in your Court. Stop claiming
that profiting from roulette is EASY and I will stop attacking you . So far  as I am concerned anyone who pays for" teaching " deserves all they get .   Buyer Beware  !

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#### MrPerfect.

##### Re: Out of topic posts
« Reply #12 on: June 14, 2019, 03:02:39 PM »

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahha!! As always you do not make much sense.  I'm the one here looking for help to share workload! !!
This is one of these cases when lm almost can not be bothered to answer.
I hope everything is fine in your imaginary world, lm glad to see you're a life and kicking yet. Thanks you made me laugh,  it made my day better.

#### scepticus

##### Re: Out of topic posts
« Reply #13 on: June 14, 2019, 03:58:14 PM »
Glad to be of service Mr.P