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#### Jamndy

##### Simplicity.
« on: May 25, 2019, 06:59:21 PM »
Hi to everyone. A newbie here but a newbie very much impressed with this forum, it’s members and their efforts.
The following is a strategy I’ve been using for a short while and so far so good. I’m testing it slowly in the sense i’m using this strategy on online roulette with very low stakes. Perhaps others could add to this ‘testing’ to see if it’s gonna work. In my latest session of about 20 minutes I made a profit of 71 units with no large bank required. This is consistent with every session so far played.
SIMPLY - look at the last seven numbers which have appeared. Look at these with the view it is a pattern of 7 —
E.G. last 7 numbers were in terms of colour -BBRBRRR
NOW BET ON THE NEXT SEVEN NUMBERS WITH ONE UNIT WITH EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE TO THIS PATTERN OF SEVEN WHICH HAS JUST CAME OUT.
This means you will bet seven ONE unit bets on this opposite pattern -  We will call this a session.
If your bank is in profit after the session - repeat all of above keeping your seven bets at 1 unit each bet.
If you are at a loss you should repeat the above session by betting the number of units your loss is. E.G. If your bank is 3 units down then the next session is 7 bets of 3 units each bet.
If after this second session your bank is at a new high level or equal to previous highest level then your next session will be bets of 1 unit. If your bank is still showing lower than it’s last high your next session will be bets of units equal to your the difference between your current bank to its last highest level.

Example of how many units your bets should be in a session.
Bank before session 100 units.
Bank after session 102 units. [new high]
Next session bets are 1 unit.

Bank before next session - now 102 units.
Bank after session - 99 units.
Next session bets are 3 unit.

Bank before next session  - 99 units.
Bank after session 103 units [new high]
Next session bets are 1 unit.

Bank before next session 103 units.
Bank after session 102 units]
Next session bets are 2 units. [when your bank is exactly 1 unit less after a session this is the only time the next session bets are 2 units]

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#### Third

##### Re: Simplicity.
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2019, 08:47:58 PM »
Are you aware that betting the last 7 results has the exact same statistical features as betting an EC 7 times (e.g. bet Red 7 times)?

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#### Optimistique

##### Re: Simplicity.
« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2019, 08:56:53 PM »
Welcome to forum Jamndy

Great contribution imo

Have about make it simple and apply 7 steps martingale.

How rare matematicly to repeat exactly 7+7 EC ? (Math profs of forum could answer that one)

Maybe it gives us more courage to apply martingale for your idea.

Cheers,
Optimistique

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#### Godfrey

##### Re: Simplicity.
« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2019, 09:26:10 PM »
Extremely old idea. Look at dobbelsteen's SSB method. Exactly the same. Some play it 8 steps, some 10 steps.

Some play it after 4 virtual losses. Some play it with a divisor.

In the end it doesn't matter. They all lose against a negative game.

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#### Jamndy

##### Re: Simplicity.
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2019, 09:32:04 PM »
Thank you for the welcome Opmistique and thank you and Third for your replies.
I think your two replies are hinting - bet each part of the seven pattern to repeat rather than as I suggest bet on the opposite which is an interesting slant.
Hi Godfrey - it seems it’s a no no then. I didn’t realise it was an old idea. Oh dear back to the drawing board.

#### Third

##### Re: Simplicity.
« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2019, 09:49:00 PM »
Well it was not to discourage you but to allow you to see your wagering plan in the light of simply betting 7 Low, 7 Even etc.  Your wagering plan is entirely separate.

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##### Re: Simplicity.
« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2019, 01:24:09 AM »

Jamndy, welcome.

dont trow away your system because someone said "it is a old system"  please.

play it as long as you are winning.  being a old system dont mean a thing.
there is more then one way to play it. most have played it using a martingale and that mean they would stop after a win or loss every time. some play every spins without a stop.
if you are going to stop a system every time someone says it is old or as been played allready you will get severe brain traumas,lol.
just keep your play exactly the way you have been doing it and keep track of everything.

Cheers,

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#### Stratege

##### Re: Simplicity.
« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2019, 07:20:12 AM »

Godfrey is perfectly right! This idea is called "mirror method". These "methods" are much older than Dobbelsteen (we can date this simple idea centuries ago). The probability that a pattern of 7 repeats itself is 1 time on 128 patterns. But this information does not change anything, the zero of the house will eat all bankrolls with this principle.

Our new member, like most players at the beginning, starts with this kind of idea. I will not encourage you to follow this losing elementary principle. Jamndy, if you want a simple and "constructive" probabilistic explanation of the value of your idea, you can consult my message titled "the law of small numbers ..." (topic Philosophy). This law is fundamental to avoid making big mistakes for years. The direct experience of the game does not easily understand this law intuitively. Ruin begins in his mind, taking the bad habit of underestimating the laws of Hazard and the deviances they make.

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#### UnlikelySam

##### Re: Simplicity.
« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2019, 07:49:31 AM »
Hey Jamndy... From what I gather from your post ; you stated you haven't loss a session thus far and playing with a low Bankroll. Why stop then? I will not dispute this has been played with different variations over time ; some stop on the first win you are playing through the entire run.

I'm not sure how you are handling the 0 ignoring it or so. However since you are playing online maybe consider NoZero Roulette if you don't mind the 10% commision. I have included Baye's brilliant Labby betting tool along with a 6 point divisor JavaScript tool if you didn't see it. Rename both file extensions from "txt" to "zip". Perhaps you could continue flatbetting and use either of them to recover or use them from the get go... If you need more info on them ; ask Once you find something that works for "You" keep on pressing on to build your BR and practice proper Money Management techniques (read up on the tons of info available) -  play in sessions of small play especially online... From there it will lead you to develop stronger bet selections and improve your gameplay as you keep learning and adapting - finetuning your skills; we all have to start somewhere afterall...

Best Regards

Sam...
« Last Edit: May 26, 2019, 07:56:55 AM by UnlikelySam »

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#### Jamndy

##### Re: Simplicity.
« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2019, 08:45:08 AM »
Thank you everyone for your contributions - much appreciated. Your encouragement is kind and helpful as is the criticism. When criticism is constructive as I find it here it is a very useful tool.
UnlikelySam I didn’t realise there are no zero wheels available on the internet to play. However in my case the zero is not really a problem. If a zero has appeared in the last seven then when I mirror that pattern of seven at the zero point I simply bet black AND red and move on to next bet. If a zero comes up in the ‘mirror’ bets it’s simply a loss. Hope that makes sense.
By the way does anyone know of an online casino that allows you to spin the wheel without having to place a bet. Thanks.

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#### UnlikelySam

##### Re: Simplicity.
« Reply #10 on: May 26, 2019, 09:07:52 AM »
Sorry Jamndy the NOZ is for RNg ; the reason I mentioned it as it also is a solution to your question below ; 2 birds with 1 stone :

"By the way does anyone know of an online casino that allows you to spin the wheel without having to place a bet."

If you are still interested PM me or if you prefer live wheels no sweat bro. Thanks I understand how you are handling the 0...

#### MickyP

##### Re: Simplicity.
« Reply #11 on: May 26, 2019, 11:35:57 AM »
"Pattern Play" is indeed as old as the game and it can be very profitable at times but it can also leave you high and dry.
The formation of triggers is based on patterns, even the law of thirds is based on a pattern over 37 spins. The EC pattern register is, I would say, the most common and well used pattern second to the law of thirds. Repeat numbers are based on patterns.

When you are advised not to look at patterns then what is the alternative? AP, but even with AP, bias is identified by a pattern of hits above expectation on certain numbers or small segments of the wheel.
Hot zones on the wheel are identified by concentrated hits in segments of the wheel over short number sequences, a pattern.
The Dozen Drive and Palestis Single Dozen System are based on trigger patterns.

My advise Jamndy, is to look at how "Pattern Play" is used in other methods and study the use of patterns in developing your game. A good starting point is to study the formation of Palestis triggers (xxy, xyx, yxx) in his single dozen system. This will give you the opportunity to move away from EC bets to Dozen bets.

I hope this helps. Good luck.

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#### petespin

##### Re: Simplicity.
« Reply #12 on: May 26, 2019, 11:52:04 AM »
I know a similar pattern play which works great but only at airball machines.

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#### Jamndy

##### Re: Simplicity.
« Reply #13 on: May 26, 2019, 12:03:53 PM »
Hi Peterspin,
I would be very interested in your similar pattern play at airball machines

#### petespin

##### Re: Simplicity.
« Reply #14 on: May 26, 2019, 12:13:43 PM »
It's something that its played for long and wins at these machines , specifically are 2 , one for dozens and another one for columns .

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