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New to the site & Roulette - Any advise appreciated
« on: April 20, 2019, 06:26:24 PM »
Hello all,
 I am new the to site and new to the game of Roulette. I have been able to make it through 49 years of life without ever having any desire to gamble. Then a few weeks ago a friend introduced me to the game of roulette, where he taught me how to play the dozens with a progressive betting strategy. Now I have caught the bug. I guess it’s my strong analytical/statistical personality that will not allow this game to get out of my head.
So, before I spend the kid’s inheritance trying to learn the game on the tables, I thought it better to seek out the advice of others who have been at it a lot longer and seen a lot more.

I have been to the tables many times in the last few weeks trying a couple strategies, but I have found my emotions have gotten the better of me abandoning the strategy to chase a loss. This never turns out well. That said when I stay focused and continue the strategy, I have been able to stay on track and in profit or even.

So I guess one of my questions would be, real casino or online casino. Only because the actual casino’s here have a 5.00 minimum bet on the outside where I believe the online you can have 1.00. I am a noob so I have a very small Bank roll to start, Also what are some safe online sites to use?

Second, my goal has been to play until I have a 25% profit and get out till the next day. Does this make sense and is it obtainable? 

I appreciate all your knowledge and the information you all have already provided.
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Re: New to the site & Roulette - Any advise appreciated
« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2019, 07:44:44 PM »
Hello and welcome to the forum!
There is a lot of material in the forum, from statistics to opinions ;-)
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Re: New to the site & Roulette - Any advise appreciated
« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2019, 08:37:16 PM »
James , use your " strong analytical. .." to understand that it's negative expectation game.
   Before you understand that, l sudjest you to not place any bets for obvious reasons.  There is 99.99% chance that this game will ruin your life.
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Re: New to the site & Roulette - Any advise appreciated
« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2019, 09:11:37 PM »
Hi James and welcome to the forum.

I suggest you read your own opening post very carefully and put your inner self on the couch for some real honesty.
Your opening post may seem normal but there are a few serious tell tale signs that indicate a degree of recklessness that will cause you to fail.

After an introduction to the game with one system/strategy the bug bit you. You then tried a few different systems/strategies and went to the casino "several times" in a few weeks. You did not stick to your method....

These are signs that you have a distorted image of the game and that you are desperate to earn some easy money. You have to plan every detail of wins and losses relative to your bankroll. Leave your emotions at home and don't be fooled by the fake glamour provided by the casinos.
Don't get me wrong, it is possible to earn a living from roulette but your discipline has to be impeccable and you must have a degree of experience with your methods so you can exercise control in the game.
Many factors to consider and this forum is a good stomping ground to kick off with. Follow guys like Dobbelsteen,  Palestis and other seasoned players. Develop a sound foundation and test everything yourself.

Best of luck
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Re: New to the site & Roulette - Any advise appreciated
« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2019, 09:42:24 PM »
James, I hope you will benefit from what I am about to say.  I learned this the hard way, blowing money that I didn't need to and I hope I can help you stem your losses as much as possible because once you get your bearings, you will more easily recoup the losses you have already suffered.

You are swimming in waters that are far deeper than you imagine them to be.

Let me provide a picture to get the point across:

We all think that our play is in the Sunlight Zone most of the time and at the worst it is in the Twilight Zone.  I am here to warn you that as you continue to play, the land will slip away without you realizing it and in actuality you will find yourself swimming in the depths of The Abyss, surrounded by Trenches that will seem to never end!

Let me give you a concrete example so you don't think I am just throwing out platitudes:

I have seen a Dozen go missing 39 spins before hitting again!

This sort of behavior applies equally (virtually) to moves like "Play the same Dozen that just hit" and any other variation that you can think of.  I guarantee you that your progression is not going to handle this sort of sequence!

Here is my wholehearted recommendation:

Cease all real money play until you have adequately tested your system.

Here is what you will need to accomplish with either manual testing from published spin books or a reliable fun money site:

Double your bankroll at least once.

For safety's sake, it is even recommended to do it three times; this is especially helpful because it is quite possible to have too low of a bankroll to begin with.  If you do this, I guarantee that you will learn things that you never imagined and will thank me for it.  I hope you are able to trust what I have said because I don't want you slipping down a trench and we never hear from you again...

Finally, roulette is more about LOSING than it is winning; anyone can win but it takes a professional to know how to lose.
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Re: New to the site & Roulette - Any advise appreciated
« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2019, 11:09:38 PM »
Guys. Thank you for your advice. I guess my post sounded pretty reckless. Trust me that wasn’t the intention. I was just pointing out how easy your emotions can take over when in the moment and playing with real money. I was not expecting that to happen to me as I was very conservative playing on free sites. I was working with a very small bank roll and will not be going live again until I have a better plan in place. I totally agree managing losses is the most important strategy I need to plan before I play again.
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Re: New to the site & Roulette - Any advise appreciated
« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2019, 11:29:14 PM »
Ok great!  I am glad you are safe! :D

I definitely experience the emotional aspect of this game too.  I think there is a deeper dimension to it because of its earning power! :D


Re: New to the site & Roulette - Any advise appreciated
« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2019, 12:40:40 AM »
If you are really interested in learning about and playing roulette then get to the root of the game and only play in B/M casinos. Avoid the online computer stuff.

Spend the next few months researching. Testing and practising and during this time save enough for a decent bankroll suited to the method/methods you intend playing.
Start conversations with the seasoned players on this forum and start threads as well. Ask questions and challenge what others say. Build knowledge and experience through doing your "homework".
Don't fall for scams. Verify everything and only use your money to purchase recommended books. Other than that work on money management as a business principal. Be disciplined at all times.
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Re: New to the site & Roulette - Any advise appreciated
« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2019, 07:46:37 PM »

James... welcome! I have been on this journey for at least a decade now. I havent lost thousands of dollars. Ive actually made thousands of dollars, however the first few years were rough. I dont gamble a lot of money... I still feel this is "gambling" no matter what so I never bet what Im not willing to lose. Even with a sound strategy or system or whatever you want to call it just dont bet more than you are willing to lose. Your limit will be different than anyone elses. You might make $500K a year so losing $5000 is not a big deal. Yeah you feel it and so on but life goes on. Maybe you make $50K and $1000 will hit hard so you need to gauge whats comfortable to you.

95% of all my gambling is done with play money online. I test ideas and theories online. I dont feel online casinos are as "honest" or as "random" as real life. That said, If I can win online I can win in the casino.

Here are some sites I like... = right here! naturally! = roulette testing, progression calcs, etc = great for recording play and testing ideas = i use for play testing, no signups, no email, just play

Dont give up. You'll find something that works for you. I have. Heres my thought process... most new roulette players find out about martingale bet size if you lose = 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64 and so on. And it would work too however casinos all have max bet size so theres no way to run a true unlimited martingale. Right? So my thought is pretty simple. I needed to create a progression that fits within my bankroll size... the progression (all bets added up) must fit within my bankroll. Simple enough. Now I need to create a certain bet and figure out the best progression for it. The system I play for actual money (both online and live casino) has a big progression which has never lost. As mentioned elsewhere... statistically it will lose at some point. When, who knows. Ive made 100x or more of my bankroll that it doesnt matter now if I ever lose. Im going to be shocked when it does fail but will just continue on next time.

I hope Ive given some food for thought. Try your dozens idea if thats the bet you like and build a solid conservative progression around it. Find the right bankroll you need and keep testing until you perfect something you feel comfortable with.

For dozens bets... statistically you have a 90% chance of hitting a dozen (or column) within 5.87 spins. You have a 99% chance of hitting the dozen within 11.75 spins and you have a 99.9% chance of hitting it within 17.62 spins. GL!
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