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Third

What Is The Next Bet (P, B, N)?
« on: April 20, 2019, 01:36:47 PM »


This is baccarat notation and is the following outcomes for Player/Banker: PPPBBP and is the equivalent of BBBRRB (Black/Red).

Most roulette system players understand that there is not too much of a significant difference between baccarat and EC betting in roulette.

The choices available are Player, Banker, No Bet.  This is the kind of thread that professional baccarat clubs have in their forums, where they discuss strategy.

I have on record what I did in this shoe and the actual result in the shoe.  The strategy that I like revolves around the concept of "following the shoe", which means betting the pattern(s) that the shoe is making; i.e. the dominant patterns.  To make it even easier to understand, it is exactly the same mindset behind playing the hottest numbers in roulette.

To make this thread work, we should all put up our own shoe examples and discuss them! :D

Here is another one that displays the same principles:

« Last Edit: April 20, 2019, 02:30:23 PM by Third »
 
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Sputnik

Re: What Is The Next Bet (P, B, N)?
« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2019, 03:03:10 PM »


Third, I made my last public post about Baccarat and EC, because I get private messages from professional players saying people try to sell my material and information. My invention is Sputnik's March and I made some very nice discoveries with my methodology. After my last post, I understand the value of my understanding tackles the game.

I wish I could help you.

Cheers
 
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Sputnik

Re: What Is The Next Bet (P, B, N)?
« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2019, 03:47:37 PM »


Third, the image of the pattern is a triplet with no present bias.

I can show you that every shoe has a bias.
Everything from small, medium and large bias.

First, you need to cluster the outcomes into three different categories or events with the odds 1 in 3 or one third.

1) One single is one event/outcome by itself.
2) Series of two is one event/outcome by itself.
3) Series of three or higher is one event/outcome by itself.

Note that series of three or higher is treated as one and same outcome/event.

Now the bias can only come in three different waves.

a) Singles and series of two
b) Singles and series of three or higher
c) Series of two and series of three or higher

Now if you treat each sequence or wave as one section and separate them from the others you will get two events/outcomes strike from three to five to ten two twenty times in a row.
If not you will get a triplet and that is one single and one series of two and one series of three or higher in any combination.

That is the basic from Sputnik's March and no one has come up with a greater solution then this one.
The only one who is close to touching the brilliance of this methodology is Ellis NOR method.
But Ellis NOR method missing the strength behind the 1/3 concept that creates truly bias sequences.
And that they are connected with each other, this is a kind of secret moment, but I will mention it
.
Two events/outcomes strike and become bias, next in the future sequence one of the past two events/outcomes will be part of the future one. Read that again and again.
So sometimes you can get singles and series of three and higher strike with singles and series of two for 300 trails and make +40 units flat betting with only placing two attempts to catch every event/outcome.

Have a nice evening.
 
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Third

Re: What Is The Next Bet (P, B, N)?
« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2019, 04:44:47 PM »
Series/Singles is only one form of bias!  However, you are correct that I am not using that as my analysis methodology but maybe I should add it!

I disagree that there is no bias.  In the first image, the strongest bias is STREAKS (same as last).  In the second image the strongest bias is CHOP (opposite of last).  However, both of these examples show other biases, even though they are not as strong as the main bias.

I see you already know this by name and from its source.  So now, I will start to learn more from you...

Hmmm, so you are saying that it doesn't matter if we get a series of 2 or a series of 3 or higher, because they are the same for us once a single breaks a series?

My mind is boggled at how I could add this to the Ellis methodology.  You say that if we take two events, the next event MUST be one of those two.  Therefore, if our last two events are series of 2 and series of 3+, then a single is our trigger and we must win?

If that is how you analyze the shoe, then I agree that nothing definitive is shown because each set of 2 events are either the same event or an event that contains a single, which cannot be exploited.

Ok, let me post one that should show a bias with your method:



So you are saying we will get a higher strike rate than normal by betting Player here?
« Last Edit: April 20, 2019, 05:13:55 PM by Third »
 

Sputnik

Re: What Is The Next Bet (P, B, N)?
« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2019, 05:31:53 PM »


Third i will explain the basics and randomly pick a random file from random org.
All random bits are biased and same with all Baccarat shoes.

Here is a short sample to show you two events striking.

Code: [Select]

1
1
1
2
1
2
2
2
2
2
2
1
2
1
2
1
2
1
1
1
1
1
1
1

Eleven times singles and
series of three or higher strike

2
2
1
1
1
2

Triplet no bias one of each event/otucome

1
1
1
1
1
1
1
2
2
2
1
1
1
1
2
1
2
1
1
1
2
1

Nine times singles and
Series of three or higher strike

2
2
1
1
2
1
1

Four times singles and
Series of two strike

2
2
2
2
2
2
1
1
2

Triplet no bias one of each event

1
1
2
2
1
1
1
2
2

Four series of two and
series of three or higher

1
2
1
1
2
2
1

Five singles and
Series of two


Now let me show you one thing about past results being part of future results.

Did you know that the random bits are connected in waves?
One past event is among future events.

For example, I have singles and a series of two chopping.

P B P BB P B PP BB P B P B PP B PP B P B

When this sequence or wave stop with a series of three or higher, then singles or series of two will be part of the future sequence/wave

P B P BB P B PP BB P B P B PP B PP B P B - - - PPPP B PPP BBBBBB P B P BBB P B P B

This means that after two loses you will win one of the next two attempts if you were aiming for singles as your main dominant.

P
B
P W
B W
B L
P W
B W
P W
P L
B W
B L
P W
B W
P W
B W
P W
P L
B W
P W
P L
B W
P W
B W
-
P W
P L
P L
P
B
P W
P L
P W
B
B L
B W
B
B
B
P
B W
P W
B W
B L
B W
P
B W
P W
B W

All three waves or sequences are connected, you might name them turning points or sections, same thing.

a) Singles and series of two
b) Singles and series of three or higher
c) Series of two and series of three or higher

How do you catch the red line, the dominant event that is part of the past and the future?
Well if you first get singles and series of three and higher and next wave or sequence is series of two and series of three or higher.
Then the third wave should be one of both as two out of three dominant more than not overall.

This gives you a sense of knowing what comes next.
I will show you random org file where you can see for your self.

To the right, I will write 1/2 for singles and a series of two.
1/3 for singles and series of three or higher
2/3 for series of two and series of three or higher.

Section and turning points:

1/2 A
2/3 C
1/3 B
2/3 C
1/3 B
2/3 C
1/2 A
1/3 B
1/2 A
Triplet
Triplet
1/2 A
1/3 B
1/2 A
1/3 B
1/2 A
1/3 B
1/2 A
2/3 C
1/3 B
Triplet
1/3 B
1/2 A
2/3 C
1/2 A
2/3 C
1/3 B
1/2 A

Above we have 2 waves or sequences following each other with past and future results for ten times in a row.
Amazing bias, a true large bias that connected two sequences with each other.

 
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Third

Re: What Is The Next Bet (P, B, N)?
« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2019, 05:57:22 PM »
Wow awesome!

So, let me give this a shot:
====================
P SINGLE
B SINGLE
P SINGLE                                  <=== This section is A
B
B SERIES OF 2
====================

P SINGLE
B SINGLE
P                                              <=== This section is A
P SERIES OF 2
====================

B
B SERIES OF 2                           <=== This section is A
P SINGLE
B SINGLE
=====================

P SINGLE
B SINGLE
P                                                 <=== This section is A
P SERIES OF 2
======================

B SINGLE
P
P SERIES OF 2                              <=== This section is A
======================
B SINGLE
P SINGLE
B SINGLE
P
P                                                   <=== This section is B
P
P SERIES OF 3+
=======================

B

Am I sectioning this correctly? 
« Last Edit: April 20, 2019, 06:02:19 PM by Third »
 

Sputnik

Re: What Is The Next Bet (P, B, N)?
« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2019, 06:34:03 PM »


If you get two events to strike for Three times you have a small bias sequence.

P BB P B
PP B PP
PP B P B

That is singles and series of two and they can only end in one way, with a series of Three or higher.
And they can strike more then Three times in a row, then can hit eleven times or twenty times.

PP B PP B P B PP BB P B PP B P B P B P BB P B

This is singles and series of Three or higher

PPPP B P B
P B PPPPPPPPPP
BBB P PPPP

Singles and series of Three can only end in one way and that is with a series of two.
They can strike for several times in a row, twelve or twenty times.

PPPP P B P B P BBB P B PPPPP B P B PPP B P BBB P B P

Series of two and series of Three and higher.

PPP BBBB PP
PP BBB PPPPP
BBBBB PP BB

Series of two and series of Three or higher can strike for twelve to twenty times in a row and they allways end with a single.

Now you see if there is not Three in a row of two events you get a triplet, one of each event.

PPP B PP
BB P BBBB
P BBB PP
B PP BBBB

No bias.

Now the event that end each sequence will be part of the future event when there is a bias sequence.
Question is wish one of the two past events will become part of the future events.
Here you can guess right more then wrong as two sequenses strike more then alternating.
And there is other triggers that works as well.

Cheers
 
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Third

Re: What Is The Next Bet (P, B, N)?
« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2019, 09:27:37 PM »
So apparently we have the following:

AA,AB,AC

BB,BA,BC

CC,CA,CB

Why not bet for the dominant manifestation amongst these 3?  Does that make sense?

Like for instance, if AC dominates more than AA & AB, every time we get an "A" we then bet for "C".  Then, after we achieve our "C", CB dominates and so we bet for "B" and then we achieve our "B" and BA dominates and so we bet for "A". 

Is that good you think?

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Sputnik

Re: What Is The Next Bet (P, B, N)?
« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2019, 11:34:18 PM »


Third i only wanted to mention the basic and if you want to talk about when and where and why to bet using Sputnik's March you have to start a private conversation with me.

You can pick one sequence only or all Three.
You can aim to win once or twice in a row.
You can aim to flat betting and Catch the bias no matter in what direction the shoe takes.
You can play one side only.
Among other solutions.

Cheers
 
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Trilobite

Re: What Is The Next Bet (P, B, N)?
« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2019, 07:20:17 AM »
Hi Third, nice topic.

To put it simply and to answer the question, for me the next bet is 1 unit on P.

Further, if it won then the next bet is also 1 unit on P. If it lost then the next bet is 2 units on P.
« Last Edit: April 21, 2019, 07:24:16 AM by Trilobite »
 
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Third

Re: What Is The Next Bet (P, B, N)?
« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2019, 11:58:25 AM »
If you mean the first image then yes and we both won.  On the next two bets,looking it up...

I didn't bet twice and you won twice!  Grats! :D

What about the second image?
 
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Trilobite

Re: What Is The Next Bet (P, B, N)?
« Reply #11 on: April 21, 2019, 11:43:22 PM »
2 units on B.
 

Third

Re: What Is The Next Bet (P, B, N)?
« Reply #12 on: April 22, 2019, 02:31:39 AM »
LOL.  We both win again!! :D
 

Third

Re: What Is The Next Bet (P, B, N)?
« Reply #13 on: April 22, 2019, 08:12:59 AM »
================
Banker SINGLE
Player                             <=== A
Player SERIES OF 2
================
Banker SINGLE
Player  SINGLE                 <=== A
Banker
Banker SERIES OF 2
================
Player
Player SERIES OF 2           <=== A
Banker SINGLE
Player  SINGLE
=================
Banker
Banker
Banker SERIES OF 3+         <=== B
Player  SINGLE
==================
Banker SINGLE
Player  SINGLE
Banker SINGLE                  <=== A
Player  SINGLE
Banker
Banker SERIES OF 2
==================
Player
Player SERIES OF 2
Banker
Banker
Banker                                  <=== C
Banker
Banker
Banker SERIES OF 3+
===================
Player  TRIGGER, BETTING FOR SERIES OF 2 BET PLAYER L
Banker BET BANKER L
Player  BET PLAYER L
Banker BET BANKER W             <=== A
Banker
====================
Player
Player
Banker
Player
Banker
Player
Banker
Banker
Banker
Banker
Banker
Player
Banker
Player
Banker
Banker
Banker
Player
Banker
Player
Player
Banker
Banker
Player
Banker
Player
Player
Banker
Banker
Player
Banker
Banker
Player
Player
Banker
« Last Edit: April 22, 2019, 08:34:37 AM by Third »
 

Third

Re: What Is The Next Bet (P, B, N)?
« Reply #14 on: April 22, 2019, 09:34:14 AM »
PBBPB
This is the warm up.  The overall trend is now BANKER and both 2-BACK and 3-BACK agree with this trend, with only 1-BACK disagreeing.  So here is a recommended bet for BANKER.

PBBPBP
We lose while the overall trend becomes undecided and the forecast is mixed.  NO BET.

PBBPBPBP
Now, the overall trend is still undecided but 1-BACK, 2-BACK and 3-BACK all agree on BANKER; BET BANKER.

PBBPBPBPB
We win.  Now the overall trend has just become BANKER but again, 1,2 & 3-BACK solidly agree on PLAYER; BET PLAYER.

PBBPBPBPBP
We win.

This small history shows that even if there is a balanced mix of PLAYER/BANKER, bias can still be present in the distribution of those results and that it is also possible for the distribution of the results to have a stronger bias than the PLAYER/BANKER overall trend.
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