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MickyP

Are You A Gambler?
« on: March 18, 2019, 07:23:11 PM »
Gambling is a vice and is additive. It is very difficult to control an addition so the discussions on what makes a good roulette player have no bearing on the gambler. He is unable to exercise any form of discipline when he sits at the table rolling a soon to be bet chip over his index finger and down to his ring finger then up again repeating the silly trick until he slams the chip on the felt and scrambles to place more chips till he feels that the winning number has been covered.

Are you a gambler? If not, what has prevented you from being sucked into the additive nature of roulette and other table games?
 
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Re: Are You A Gambler?
« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2019, 01:08:24 AM »
It is a very serious sin to gamble with money you cannot afford to lose.  This is the only thing that has stopped me.
 

MickyP

Re: Are You A Gambler?
« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2019, 09:51:30 AM »
When you refer to money you can or can not afford to lose in relation to "sin", do you see sin on a sliding scale? Smaller sins are okay but never cross the line that leads you to bigger sins? If in your moral comprehension of life you deem an action to be sinful then to you is it not a sin to indulge in a mini--action of the same?

The question is not about roulette or gambling being morally right or wrong, it is about the weakness of person in relation to a "profit from the game" approach. How does a person withstand being exposed to the call of addiction without being affected? What makes you untouchable and immune from being caught up in the gamblers Web?
 

MickyP

Re: Are You A Gambler?
« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2019, 10:08:59 AM »
Roulette is a gamblers game. Placing a cash bet on a roulette table makes me a gambler.

Addiction is a gamblers nemesis.

Is controlling greed an addiction "Stop Loss"?
 

MickyP

Re: Are You A Gambler?
« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2019, 03:23:25 AM »
I thought this thread might be a hard pill for many to swallow.
The answer to the question above regarding an addicted gambler's control of greed as a stop loss is obviously No. What does an addicted person have control over? Nothing, not even the ability to sustain the funding of the addiction.

I put online players on the hot list of potential gambling addiction for a number of reasons:
1. The fix is on tap. As long as there is Internet services available the tap can be accessed on demand.
2. The speed of the game keeps the player on an emotional ride feeding their gluttonous hunger for the next spin.
3. It is common knowledge that online "RNG" roulette games are rigged yet players who indulge defend the platform. They share constant warning about the scams within the platform with each other but yet they continue supporting "fix on demand".
4. Their systems are designed to hopefully work the scam out of the platform by playing extremely high volumes of spins. This is a fallacy to believe that a rigged computer program can be outsmarted.
5. There are always reasons why playing in a B/M casino on a table with regular croupier changes is not for them.
I can add to the list but I think the main points are covered.

Gambling addiction is as real as the green zero on the wheel but many choose to ignore it at their own peril.

Please don't be discouraged or angry. This is not a MickyP attack session. I really thought that because so many fall into the vice of gambling addiction that it would be a good thing to discuss the subject. I'm sure there are some players that will appreciate an open discussion that may help them in some way.
 

Trilobite

Re: Are You A Gambler?
« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2019, 09:39:43 AM »
Yes, I am a gambler.
 

MickyP

Re: Are You A Gambler?
« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2019, 03:55:14 PM »
Lol aren't we all. Strange that we all seem to escape the addiction claw.
 

Rinad

Re: Are You A Gambler?
« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2019, 04:40:54 PM »


   all of us are gamblers. this life is not just about being safe.  if we dont live a life a little on the edge i think we are taking too much space. it is a double edge sword. I love 'risk-taking"  because it reflect the true nature of who we are.

Rinad
 
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MickyP

Re: Are You A Gambler?
« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2019, 05:04:24 AM »
It is true that all of us are gamblers so you have a valid point Rinad. However,  there is a stigma attached to the word gambler as it automatically suggests addiction. People will say "oh, he is a gambler" and the assumption related to that is compulsive losing, unable to control the urge to wage money or anything of value in the hope of winning more back.

A casual drug user will very easily form habit or addiction. Habits feed and lead to addiction. Denial is a defence against facing the truth of being addicted. "I can control it or I can stop whenever I want" are lines all too common. Opioid addiction is quick and severe. Gambling addiction does not often have psychical manifestations and can therefore easily be hidden.
When you are playing roulette on your pc at home and your dog begins to bark or your child starts crying or you hear your front door open, what do you do?  Do you try and squeeze in a few more bets before you go and see what the problem is or who has entered your home?
When does addiction kick into gambling?
 

MickyP

Re: Are You A Gambler?
« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2019, 08:03:10 AM »
Heated discussions pop up every now and then on this forum. In many cases it can be seen as  a rational thought approach to the subject versus the denial of a gambling addict. An example is the topic on virtual  play. The addict can't understand why spins are wasted instead of betting on the spins.
We know that we can not win every spin yet discussions scorn players who reveal this fact.
The moral of the story is that you can not argue with an addict and expect understanding.
 

MickyP

Re: Are You A Gambler?
« Reply #10 on: March 24, 2019, 01:24:09 AM »
I smoke cigarettes. It's not a habit, it's an addiction. This is a mild form of addiction compared to other forms of addiction. I have stopped smoking a number of times but after some time I light up a cigarette that instantly triggers that smokers cough again. Very difficult to stop altogether.

Addiction in any form is bad. What are we actually doing on the forum besides exposing ourselves to potential addiction. A guy like myself who clearly has an addiction problem will end up in the gutters if I follow some of the advice on the forum. Fortunately I don't like the casino atmosphere and so I go in, do my business and leave. I never have bank cards with me and I always leave with money in my pocket. I have managed to discipline myself into a playing regiment where everything is controlled including greed. Everything is recorded on paper from the time I walk into the casino to the time I walk out.
I don't have the answers to gambling addiction and I am no Dr Phil but I do realise that more lives are ruined than lifted up with gambling.
Sorry to have raised this subject again Trilobite. I read your story and it is sad.

This is my last solo post on this subject but I will respond if questions or comments are directed at me.