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MickyP

Growing/Evolving as a Roulette Player.
« on: February 24, 2019, 05:27:05 PM »
Growing or evolving as a roulette player starts off for many players for different reasons but the quest is a common one; to learn how to best improve on the profitability that the game promises.

We latch onto this idea that we can be profitable players because it is achievable and there are many ways to reach that "I have arrived" moment.

There are many factors that players need to take cognizance of and these factors need to be molded into ones personality and approach to the game.

The most common growth point is reducing the amount of numbers you bet on and this is saddled by a bet selection method.
Besides doing the hard work yourself, learning or getting direction from seasoned players is almost imperative. Getting involved in discussions and asking awkward questions then testing new found information against your approach is all part of the evolving package.

Giajjenno is a player that I can use as an example of an evolving player.
 
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MickyP

Re: Growing/Evolving as a Roulette Player.
« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2019, 04:58:24 PM »
The best way to motivate yourself to learn is to go out and lose some money. It's like a slap in your face. This is the quickest way you can bring yourself back to reality; just go and lose some money.

No player wants to go out and lose money day after day but every player has to learn how to deal with loss. Loss is a part of the game and many fail because when they experience a loss their focus changes from winning to recovering the loss. Chasing losses is a major pitfall.

I think Kav started a thread some time back about losing money.
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Greek

Re: Growing/Evolving as a Roulette Player.
« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2019, 07:06:45 PM »
The best way to motivate yourself to learn is to go out and lose some money. It's like a slap in your face. This is the quickest way you can bring yourself back to reality; just go and lose some money.

No player wants to go out and lose money day after day but every player has to learn how to deal with loss. Loss is a part of the game and many fail because when they experience a loss their focus changes from winning to recovering the loss. Chasing losses is a major pitfall.

I think Kav started a thread some time back about losing money.
The best way to motivate and learn is to find a mentor. If you have to, pay for some lessons from a proven teacher, word of mouth is the best source. Why spend hundreds or even thousands of dollars trying to learn on live bets, losing, when you can spend those "hard knock" money on education, rather than "learning" on your own losing?

Okay, you can go the losing route. Good luck with that.

 
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leowls

Re: Growing/Evolving as a Roulette Player.
« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2019, 11:01:21 PM »
Because people like to assume they are exceptional? They believe the unfortunate won't happen to them. Experience is often the best way to bring them back to reality.
 
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MrPerfect.

Re: Growing/Evolving as a Roulette Player.
« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2019, 06:47:54 AM »
There are many "evolving" gamblers out there...99%, according to " losing is good" they are very evolved , but not the fact.
  To become other 1% , best way is to study wheels and practice prediction. No need to lose anything besides the time for learning. .. more you actually learning,  more you evolving.
  Books help, but in general only personal experience in wheel/ ball studies , only hands on learning new things ( excel programming, data collection..ets) is a way to go. Unless you wanna become gambler degenerate,  take written here seriously. 
 
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ignatus

Re: Growing/Evolving as a Roulette Player.
« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2019, 08:02:20 AM »
There are many "evolving" gamblers out there...99%, according to " losing is good" they are very evolved , but not the fact.
  To become other 1% , best way is to study wheels and practice prediction. No need to lose anything besides the time for learning. .. more you actually learning,  more you evolving.
  Books help, but in general only personal experience in wheel/ ball studies , only hands on learning new things ( excel programming, data collection..ets) is a way to go. Unless you wanna become gambler degenerate,  take written here seriously.

Yes, Agreed; "There are many "evolving" gamblers out there...99%, according to " losing is good" they are very evolved ,..." Because this is how we learn, this is our HUMAN Nature, "We learn from our mistakes",...There is *No* other way to learn how to play Roulette, to test ALL kinds of possibilities, and see what works, and what does Not work,....etc, This is how we learn, this is how we *Evolve* yes? There is *No* other way around it, this i may say is the *only* way how to learn "how to play/how to become a good/pro Roulette-player"....Yes. This is "Trial and Error", I've mentioned it many times before.....

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All the Best, and wellwishings ~ignatus 2019 <3
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MrPerfect.

Re: Growing/Evolving as a Roulette Player.
« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2019, 08:35:03 AM »
Independently where people heading,  they usually arrive.  One goes way of losses, he arrive there, other go way of studies , he arrive to knowledge.
If someone needs " slap" as Mickey says... well , be it. More adequate people do study the game they are about to participate and look for highest advantage possible. 
 As with anything in this world, people get what they are looking for, be it slaps in their face or knowledge about roulette. 
   I would not speak about " human error" nature... there are not that many humans out there. Socrat used to look for a human being during the day, with the torch in his hand ,in the middle of the crowd... nothing changed from that time. Not that many people decide to be human and not many of them are able actually to practice at this BEING HUMAN.
 
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MickyP

Re: Growing/Evolving as a Roulette Player.
« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2019, 03:30:38 PM »
Thanks for the posts above guys.

MrPerfect said it so well. The destination if we can put it that way is to be in the 1%. This requires much learning and practicing of acquired skills.
The wheel, ball and croupier produce the winning number. Prediction of where the ball will land is essential study if you are aiming for that 1%.

Learning how to deal with loss remains an important aspect of the game.
 

Third

Re: Growing/Evolving as a Roulette Player.
« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2019, 04:20:09 PM »
Learning how to deal with loss remains an the most important aspect of the game.

FTFY.

Ask Mr. Perfect when he packs up his office and leaves a loser and he will tell you.
 

MrPerfect.

Re: Growing/Evolving as a Roulette Player.
« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2019, 05:18:41 PM »
Any of these will make me run away:
 1. Situation change in general ( new wheel)
2. Very different conditions
3. If session bank lost and l didn't understand why.
   Rest of it l will fight with all l got.
 
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mr j

Re: Growing/Evolving as a Roulette Player.
« Reply #10 on: March 02, 2019, 03:06:34 AM »
Geez, I'm late to this topic. Most (not all) here, play roulette (B&M) as a hobby/part time, and message boards are their MAIN influence into the game. Myself, its the opposite. The message boards are nothing more than a hobby. Dont need them, they are pretty useless to me. Years ago? Different story.
Most here dont want to learn. Meaning what Ken? They have a PARTICULAR style they play and "their way" is the correct way. They have no interest opening their ears and CERTAIN other players are growing tired of this and posting less,,,,,,,myself, Mike, Turbo, Gizmo etc. etc. etc. Point being, I think our attitudes as of late, f**k it, just let you guys implode on yourselves. (lol). I lose nothing in my wallet watching you guys chase the second column with mild progression but only after the magical TRIGGER appears.

You guys (not all) are going in a never ending circle. It took some of you five years to DROP down from the ECs to column bets. Five years is waaaaay too long people. That should of taken six months (max) and then after that, dropping more and more numbers. A lot of you are following (like sheep) the wrong people here and they are leading you to the slaughter. Two very very very important points >>>> A) Your method must be PLAYABLE under all B&M real life casino situations. B) If you cant make a living from your method, then you have trash.
 
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MickyP

Re: Growing/Evolving as a Roulette Player.
« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2019, 09:24:31 AM »
Two valid and extremely important points you made Ken.

Understanding and dealing with loss will guide "some" players to success; obviously not the recreational type (lego blocks and RNG computer/slot based roulette).
With understanding of loss comes a resistance to using progressions and comes a resistance to betting too many numbers. This is a logical and rational outcomes to game control.
 
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Scarface

Re: Growing/Evolving as a Roulette Player.
« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2019, 05:24:08 PM »
MickyP, I agree with you.  It took me losing alot to realize my strategy wasn't working.  From lots of experience at B&M casinos, I started to notice events that always happen.  I noticed that it is a common occurrence that extreme events happen pretty frequently in the short term.  What I mean is that a certain number will stand out and repeat frequently in a short period of time.  Within 2 to 3 hours of play, there will be at least 1 or 2 numbers that will stand out and repeat like crazy...this is why I stay on recent repeaters.

For me, a couple of the most recent repeaters is the way to go.  Forget the hot numbers on the marquee.  The other day I noticed #17 was the 2nd hottest number on the marquee (based on the last 200 spins).  But I have been playing for at least 100 of those spins, and never seen #17 hit at all....this tells me that #17 must have hit many times in a short period of time. 
 
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MickyP

Re: Growing/Evolving as a Roulette Player.
« Reply #13 on: March 04, 2019, 06:10:57 AM »
Thanks for your contribution Scarface. I notice similar events on repeaters as well...lol. Like Ken says "it's staring you in the face". All you have to do is go out and get it.
Players should look at the possibilities roulette offers with eyes wide open.

My history as a player involves betting many numbers and using progressions but I have moved on from that thanks to "understanding" my losses. This is how I learnt the valuable lessons plastered on this forum by the likes of Mike, Real, Mr J (Ken), MrPerfect, DrTalos, Palestis, Dobbelsteen and a number of other players. These guys each contributed to my evolving process by my looking more deeply into what they were actually saying.
I must say that I still use progressions but very selectively and is purpose driven.

In my time of playing many numbers I still managed to profit most of the time but a loss cut very deep and set me back many hours of play. By playing few numbers and flat betting or using a very mild progression the same profit target is reached in much less time and this is what excites me about the changes I've made in my game approach.

I don't chase the game but I do follow the habits of it and I play selectively with limited exposure of chips on the table.
 
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Scarface

Re: Growing/Evolving as a Roulette Player.
« Reply #14 on: March 04, 2019, 01:38:33 PM »
MickeyP, I see nothing wrong with covering many numbers to start with.  I do it sometimes myself.  As long as its hitting, its good.  Problem just comes when it stops hitting.  This is when I gradually play less numbers.  Maybe start out covering 5 double street (30 numbers), then go to 5 quads...then 5 streets...then 5 splits...etc.  Basically, parachute down after a loss.  Eventually, you will get down to covering a couple numbers, but the good thing is you don't have to raise your wager.  It can be somewhat of a grind, but sometimes good for 30-40 units before it goes down  :)
 
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