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Robbert

Need some repeater stats.
« on: January 15, 2019, 12:20:25 PM »
Hello there!

I need some stats! Does anyone have some stats about when the first four repeaters come in a 37 spin cycle?

And the gaps between them?

Thanks in advance!
 

GIAJJENNO

Re: Need some repeater stats.
« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2019, 12:33:14 PM »
Its variable. The averages says 4 repeaters must come in first 20 spins. First 10 spin  1 repeat, next 10 spin 3 repeat. But this often change. Sometimes will be 1 repeat in 20 spins or 2 or 5, but 1 repeat always will.
 

Robbert

Re: Need some repeater stats.
« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2019, 12:36:40 PM »
i saw some sessions with 20+ uniques.
Does anyone have averages about the first 4 repeaters?
« Last Edit: January 15, 2019, 12:38:50 PM by Robbert »
 

thomasleor

Re: Need some repeater stats.
« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2019, 12:41:14 PM »
Here are some from American Roulette (DZ wheel) on evolution gaming portal;





Excel file attached. If you need more (from DZ wheel or a SZ wheel) just say so and and I ll upload some more Live dealer wheel numbers (no RNG bulls***).
« Last Edit: January 15, 2019, 12:42:58 PM by thomasleor »
 

GIAJJENNO

Re: Need some repeater stats.
« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2019, 12:43:20 PM »
i saw some sessions with 20+ uniques.
Does anyone have averages about the first 4 repeaters?

The averages makes nothing sense. I built up one system for nonhits and repeaters for averages, but the gap csn be very big.
 

Robbert

Re: Need some repeater stats.
« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2019, 12:46:00 PM »

I am only looking for a single zero wheel.

Yeaaah, but for me it makes sense.
 

thomasleor

Re: Need some repeater stats.
« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2019, 12:47:09 PM »
Here you can see how the previous repeaters hit the wheel (sector wise) As you see clusters are forming rapidly.

 
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Robbert

Re: Need some repeater stats.
« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2019, 12:52:37 PM »
Thanks Thomas, i appreciated it.

But thats not what i meant by gaps.

Gaps like 1st rep. spin 10, 2nd rep. at spin 16.

 

thomasleor

Re: Need some repeater stats.
« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2019, 12:57:18 PM »
Thanks Thomas, i appreciated it.

But thats not what i meant by gaps.

Gaps like 1st rep. spin 10, 2nd rep. at spin 16.

Just look at my excel-file and count the gaps between the Xs.

Here are some numbers from the Hippodrome SZ wheel
Spin order is found furthest to the left (red column)
As you see, first four gaps are spin 13 gap 5, spin 15 gap 1, spin 19 gap 3 spin 23 gap 3



file attached
« Last Edit: January 15, 2019, 01:02:35 PM by thomasleor »
 

Robbert

Re: Need some repeater stats.
« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2019, 12:59:42 PM »
Thanks! But thats only 1 cycle. Got some rng data?
 

thomasleor

Re: Need some repeater stats.
« Reply #10 on: January 15, 2019, 01:05:11 PM »
Thanks! But thats only 1 cycle. Got some rng data?

You are joking right? If you knew how manipulated RNG s are by the Casinos, as I do, you would stay away. But if you still wish to lose your money, go ahead and sign up in an online-casino, pick an RNG with the image of roulette slapped on it (it fools the noobs allright), then go for your numbers in its FUN mode, and when you think you have found the HG, go at the same RNG in Real Money mode.

You might be lucky for a while but the hammer will come down once the RNG has kept you playing for a specific amount of time. I have written many articles on the RNGs in todays Casino industry but I ve stopped as I have realized how most don´t want to know how they really function and are calibrated according to the standards stipulated by the Gaming commissions but with huge leeway for the Casino to take a nice profit out of them by manipulating the RG software in the RNG processor.

Btw, previous SZ numbers were more than two cycles. Just go back and finish the job yourself. The numbers are there below the 37th spin...
« Last Edit: January 15, 2019, 01:11:11 PM by thomasleor »
 

Robbert

Re: Need some repeater stats.
« Reply #11 on: January 15, 2019, 01:11:30 PM »


Thanks! But thats only 1 cycle. Got some rng data?

You are joking right? If you knew how manipulated RNG s are by the Casinos, as I do, you would stay away. But if you still wish to lose your money, go ahead and sign up in an online-casino, pick an RNG with the image of roulette slapped on it (it fools the noobs allright), then go for your numbers in its FUN mode, and when you think you have found the HG, go at the same RNG in Real Money mode. You might be lucky for a while but the hammer will come down once the RNG has kept you playing for a specific amount of time. I have written many articles on the RNGs in todays Casino industry but I ve stopped as I have realized how most don´t want to know how they really function and are calibrated according to the standards stipulated by the Gaming commissions but with huge leeway for the Casino to take a nice profit out of them by manipulating the RG software in the RNG processor.


If you got a good and trusted rng, nothing is wrong with it i think. Trusted casino's dont need to. The 2,7 HE. is already in their favour. Its just slot machine, with 37 random numbers, with a 36x payout.

Thats it.

 
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Robbert

Re: Need some repeater stats.
« Reply #12 on: January 15, 2019, 01:13:13 PM »
I'am not here to throw balls, just asking nicely for some stats.
 

thomasleor

Re: Need some repeater stats.
« Reply #13 on: January 15, 2019, 01:22:12 PM »

Thanks! But thats only 1 cycle. Got some rng data?

If you got a good and trusted rng, nothing is wrong with it i think. Trusted casino's dont need to. The 2,7 HE. is already in their favour. Its just slot machine, with 37 random numbers, with a 36x payout.

Thats it.

Trusted Casino? By what GC Standard? All Casinos, for example in Europe, are required to pay huge taxes to their governments in order to have a gaming license. The tax (GGR) varies from 10-60% in extreme cases. For more info look here:   https://www.casino.org/blog/comparing-gambling-taxes-around-the-world/

Where do you think the Casinos make up for this negative incursion on their profit-expectation? They use many tricks to increase the edge over the gambler beyond the payout edge they already have in each game. One of those is the permission to regulate/calibrate the RM RNGs to return a guaranteed return to the Casinos between 3-5% (former east block states even boost that up to 10%!).

As you understand that means mathematically the RNG will be set in a way that you and all present lose that from your total participating turnover in the game and there is specific software for that purpose. The Gaming Commissions of course approves this (depending on region).

I ve been dealing with Casinos and roulette for over 25 years now. There is very little that surprises me anymore when it comes to the gamblers idealized perception of such casinos and the true shark like business model behind them.
« Last Edit: January 15, 2019, 01:26:12 PM by thomasleor »
 

Joe

Re: Need some repeater stats.
« Reply #14 on: January 15, 2019, 01:48:35 PM »
Thanks! But thats only 1 cycle. Got some rng data?
Why not get it from random.org? At least you know that the RNG isn't fixed. You can get as many spins as you need from there.
 
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