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RNG Spin Data (Money Wagered, No Bonus)
« on: January 13, 2019, 06:35:09 AM »

Below is the number sequence from a RNG I play.  My starting bankroll was $81.50 CAD  Day one this went up to $148.50  and today I pushed it up to $181.50 

The Question I have here is...  If I were to continue updating this (If anyone is interested)  What other information is valuable that you guys would want to see?  I may polish this up and perhaps a template can be drawn up as a means to share.  Input or criticism from the Big boys on the forum will be appreciated.   

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« Last Edit: January 13, 2019, 06:36:45 AM by Olidammara »
 
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MrPerfect.

Re: RNG Spin Data (Money Wagered, No Bonus)
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2019, 08:22:18 AM »
 It's very nice to see that someone is actually doing something meaningful. ..  like trying to use brain to study equipment instead of attack everything they see with same bogus system.
   Could you please specify what RNG is that and where do you play it? Like... slotmashine make ( who produce) or specific game name ... something that helps to recognise it in the future .
   Please specify if sample posted is continuing or has gaps.
    My limited understanding wouldn't permit me to understand something less then 300 spins continuously recorded as they come. If you are prepared to record 3-4 such samples, l could run your data thru my tools and we will see if we find something interesting there.
  Feel free to contact me by PM.
 
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thomasleor

Re: RNG Spin Data (Money Wagered, No Bonus)
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2019, 09:13:43 AM »


For starters, if you wish to share RNG drawn numbers with others, it is way smarter to post them in an excel-file for so many (calculable) reasons. As you present them now, they take a lot of unnecessary forum space. Just saying.
« Last Edit: January 13, 2019, 09:37:06 AM by thomasleor »
 
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Re: RNG Spin Data (Money Wagered, No Bonus)
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2019, 06:24:19 PM »

For starters, if you wish to share RNG drawn numbers with others, it is way smarter to post them in an excel-file for so many (calculable) reasons. As you present them now, they take a lot of unnecessary forum space. Just saying.

Good idea Thomasleor, 

funny the things that slip one's mind.  I actually have an excel file tracking this and I went out of my way to just put the text down.  For future updates I'll include that. 
 

UnlikelySam

Re: RNG Spin Data (Money Wagered, No Bonus)
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2019, 06:37:50 PM »
Hey Olidammara

That would be very kind of you to take the time post RNG spins. Much appreciated.

Thanks.

Regards

Sam.
 

Third

Re: RNG Spin Data (Money Wagered, No Bonus)
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2019, 10:50:49 PM »
Nice 2x+ of bank.  Any major losing sequences?  A running bankroll total would be nice.
 
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Re: RNG Spin Data (Money Wagered, No Bonus)
« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2019, 05:05:30 AM »
Nice 2x+ of bank.  Any major losing sequences?  A running bankroll total would be nice.

good thinking.  I'll tinker and see if there's a way I can automate that in an adjacent column.  I don't bet the same amount of numbers each time so I may have to just key it in after each play. 

There was a major losing sequence at the beginning (started with 50.  Burnt it, then tossed in 31.50 and made my way up from there after adjusting.
 

Re: RNG Spin Data (Money Wagered, No Bonus)
« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2019, 07:07:05 AM »
Here's the spreadsheet I use right now.  Feel free to tinker with this.  I'm curious to see what improvements can come from this. 

Mr. Perfect I made sure I played up to 300 spins. 

It may take me a few days to get another 300 as it depends how favourable things are.  Tonight's session I went up 20% and my gut told me to call it there.  If it's a hard grind where I can't seem to push past 2.7% there'll be more spins in that session.  and if the BR takes too much damage that could yield a small data set as well. 

« Last Edit: January 14, 2019, 07:11:21 AM by Olidammara »
 
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thomasleor

Re: RNG Spin Data (Money Wagered, No Bonus)
« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2019, 02:17:19 PM »


Are these numbers generated by an RNG in Real Money Mode from a Casino, or in fun mode?  If the latter,  they are worthless as the RNG is not calibrated to a profit yield return percentage all Casinos implement on their RNGs in accordance with local Gaming Commission directives.  This yield return determines thus the RNG processor as it produces numbers.

The latter and its calibration range (usually a Casino 3-5% net profit return on the total turnover of all made bets) depends on the Casino┬┤s taxation rates in their country. You would be surprised how much tax some casinos have to pay to their government for having a license.

The thing with most RNG loving gamblers is that they miss to understand this extremely important difference which means they get results in FUN mode, or on simple online RNG engines,  that never can be replicated in a Casino calibrated RNG in RM mode.

Hence they think, once they have blown all their money, the Casino is cheating, which of course it does as it omits to inform the gambler about this difference, which of course  is at the same level as not having clocks visible in Land based Casinos, and other neat tricks they use just  to increase their edge over the gambler in ways that are unethical, but completely legal.
« Last Edit: January 14, 2019, 02:40:50 PM by thomasleor »
 
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Re: RNG Spin Data (Money Wagered, No Bonus)
« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2019, 02:55:59 PM »

Hey Thomasleor,

This is with money wagered, 

I don't have as much of an understanding as to the ins and outs of the differences that you do.  I just know that on fun mode in the past, I've made hundreds of thousands of dollars.  but on real money wagered mode, I've yet (nor will I ever in all probability) achieve this. 

I've also noticed (maybe I'm just paranoid) that the outcomes seem more rigged when one agrees to any bonuses. 
 

Third

Re: RNG Spin Data (Money Wagered, No Bonus)
« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2019, 07:32:30 PM »
Awesome spreadsheet!
 
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Re: RNG Spin Data (Money Wagered, No Bonus)
« Reply #11 on: January 15, 2019, 07:33:48 AM »
Tonight's Update

Only a few spins this time around. 

Got lucky. 
 
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Mako

Re: RNG Spin Data (Money Wagered, No Bonus)
« Reply #12 on: January 15, 2019, 08:33:42 AM »
Nice Olidammara, crushing it. Keep it up!  8)
 
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Re: RNG Spin Data (Money Wagered, No Bonus)
« Reply #13 on: January 15, 2019, 02:41:50 PM »
Thank you Mako. 

I know there are people who look down on RNG (I don't blame them). What I'm hoping for is that someone with a better comprehension of random can weigh these number sets I submit (real money wagered, no fun mode, no bonus) against whatever standard they deem to be true random.  I simply look at my numbers vs excel's randbetween(0,37) vs random.org

But that's as far as I go. I have no statistical maths to present on the matter.  Just observation. 
 
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Re: RNG Spin Data (Money Wagered, No Bonus)
« Reply #14 on: January 16, 2019, 08:32:43 AM »
Tonight's run. 

Got greedy,
got emotional and chased bets. 

Had to call it. 

 
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